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ColeB01
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there is an ad on craigslist in my area for an Asus Z77 Sabertooth motherboard, and I7-3770k, and an H60 cpu cooler for $300 USD. i also found one for an AMD FX-8370 with an MSI 970 and 2x8 gb of GSkill RIpjaws DDR3 2133mhz for 190$ USD. are either of these good deals? 

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Just now, ColeB01 said:

there is an ad on craigslist in my area for an Asus Z77 Sabertooth motherboard, and I7-3770k, and an H60 cpu cooler for $300 USD. i also found one for an AMD FX-8370 with an MSI 970 and 2x8 gb of GSkill RIpjaws DDR3 2133mhz for 190$ USD. are either of these good deals? 

First things first, I hope you realize that both of these are dead end platforms? You won't have many upgrade paths down the line.

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i7-3770K is the better platform, but look above me.

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4 minutes ago, ShadowChaser said:

First things first, I hope you realize that both of these are dead end platforms? You won't have many upgrade paths down the line.

can you explain why they are please? i didn't know that 

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8 minutes ago, ColeB01 said:

can you explain why they are please? i didn't know that 

Deadend platforms will not receive any new products, hence why i said you won't be able to upgrade. If you want an enthusiast platform the current gen is X299 and (soon) threadripper. The current consumer platforms are Z170/270 and AM4

 

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8 minutes ago, ColeB01 said:

can you explain why they are please? i didn't know that 

you just won't be able to get a better CPU down the line or DDR4 ram, but in my opinion that does not matter that much. A 3770k will serve you well for a while. The GPU and all other components are upgradeble just like in any other newer platform

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10 minutes ago, ColeB01 said:

can you explain why they are please? i didn't know that 

They don't support newer tech like M.2 and NVMe, most likely, and can't upgrade to the latest CPUs and DDR4 RAM, so you'll have to buy another wholemCPU/mobo/RAM package if you want to upgrade down the line. 

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They don't support newer tech like M.2mand NVMe, most likely, and can't upgrade to the latest CPUs and DDR4 RAM, so you'll have to buy another wholemCPU/mobo/RAM package if you want to upgrade down the line. 

NVMe is absolutely possible via PCIe extensions and DDR4 is not that big of a difference if his budget is tight. If he upgrades in a couple of years, any platform will be obsolete for CPU.

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NVMe is absolutely possible via PCIe extensions

Didn't know that. 

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 DDR4 is not that big of a difference if his budget is tight. If he upgrades in a couple of years, any platform will be obsolete for CPU.

Yup. He was asking why it's a dead end setup, and I was doing my best to explain that. It's still a good deal, but its not as upgradable as newer standards. 

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ii am on a very tight budget, i have only $600 for a computer. I am not too worried about upgrading it as of now as this would be my first pc and i would wait for a few years till i could but a completely new system. which one should i buy tho? Here are the links to the page. i would still need to buy a graphics card, psu, case, ssd, and monitor. 

https://fortmyers.craigslist.org/col/sop/6181599805.html

https://fortmyers.craigslist.org/col/sop/6162129589.html

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side note- thanks for all the help guys! i really appreciate it. 

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Just now, ColeB01 said:

ii am on a very tight budget, i have only $600 for a computer. I am not too worried about upgrading it as of now as this would be my first pc and i would wait for a few years till i could but a completely new system. which one should i buy tho? Here are the links to the page. i would still need to buy a graphics card, psu, case, ssd, and monitor. 

https://fortmyers.craigslist.org/col/sop/6181599805.html

https://fortmyers.craigslist.org/col/sop/6162129589.html

the 3770k build, the 8370 is crap. You will need a gpu though.

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2 minutes ago, ColeB01 said:

ii am on a very tight budget, i have only $600 for a computer.

I'd get a cheap G4560, Z270 system. Go to PCPP and start building!

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1 minute ago, ARikozuM said:

I'd get a cheap G4560, Z270 system. Go to PCPP and start building!

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8LkLNN Heres what i already have mocked up before i looked on craigslist. 

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8 minutes ago, ColeB01 said:

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8LkLNN Heres what i already have mocked up before i looked on craigslist. 

I'd skip the SSD for now and put the cash towards a Z-board that you can upgrade with an i5-7600K or i7-7700K later on or, if Intel sticks to their guns, releases Coffee Lake (hexa-core) with backwards compatibility with Z270 and Z170. 

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Motherboard: ASRock Z370 Extreme4
Memory: G.Skill TridentZ RGB 2x8GB 3200/14
Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive 
Storage: Samsung - 960 EVO 500GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive
Storage: Western Digital - Blue 2TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive
Storage: Western Digital - BLACK SERIES 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive
Video Card: EVGA - 970 SSC ACX (1080 is in RMA)
Case: Fractal Design - Define R5 w/Window (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA P2 750W with CableMod blue/black Pro Series
Optical Drive: LG - WH16NS40 Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer 
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Pro OEM 64-bit and Linux Mint Serena
Keyboard: Logitech - G910 Orion Spectrum RGB Wired Gaming Keyboard
Mouse: Logitech - G502 Wired Optical Mouse
Headphones: Logitech - G430 7.1 Channel  Headset
Speakers: Logitech - Z506 155W 5.1ch Speakers

 

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okay. what z board then? but could i get better preformancy now with the i7-37700k and Z77 board if i dont care about upgradability?

 

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