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yeah, it's more than enough and psu seems good quality. but why beefcake cooler and z270 board with locked i7?

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Yes it'll be enough though it's a little low quality considering how high end your build is. I would go for at least a GQ or Seasonic G series psu, preferably a G2/G3 or something like am Rmx or Rmi.

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2 minutes ago, Jorgen297 said:

GTX 1080 = 180W

i7 7700 = 95W

maybe 100W for the rest

 

like 400W maybe, and the PSU is around 85% efficient so yeah it's enough 

85% efficiency has nothing to do with how much power it will output but rather how much power it will consume in order to achieve 600 watts

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Also side note, why a locked CPU with an overclockable mobo and such a nice CPU cooler? It seems kind of a waste...

4 minutes ago, L.Lawliet said:

Dont use pure power..its their budget line up.

Pure-silent-shadow-dark.

Get something like Corsair Cxm Grey unit or Evga g2 if u have the money it cost around <$80 USD for G2

CXM isn't that much better. I would rate electrical performance at about the same (CXM has better ripple but pure power 10 has better regulation) but they both use sleeve bearing fans.

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2 minutes ago, FoxAxe said:

What do i gain if i change pure power 10 600w for one of your suggestions? Im trying to get the price as low as possible

-better electrical performance (basically it makes your other components like your motherboard for example less likely to die over time)

-better components, like capacitors for example (makes your psu more likely to last longer without dying)

-longer warranty (pretty obvious)

-better fan (the pure power 10 has a sleeve bearing fan which don't usually last that long)

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1 minute ago, FoxAxe said:

Well i can get i7 7700 non k for 295euros and of i buy the i7 7700k it will cost me sroumd 360euros worth it?

you should get a b250 or h270 chipset instead f z270 

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2 minutes ago, FoxAxe said:

Well i can get i7 7700 non k for 295euros and of i buy the i7 7700k it will cost me sroumd 360euros worth it?

Possibly, yes.

 

The thing is, right now you're paying less for a locked CPU, but you're paying more for a motherboard that supports overclocking and you're paying more for a good CPU cooler that is unneeded (if you don't want to go with a stock cooler for noise reasons, a 50 euro or so cooler is unnecessary, a 25-30 euro one like the be quiet shadow rock would be enough).

 

Because right now you could instead get a 7700+b250 or h270 mobo+shadow rock and save probably around €70 or so and still end up with about the same performance.

 

Or you could pay the extra for a 7700k, assuming you're interested in overclocking, and probably overclock to around 4.8 or 4.9 ghz which might give you a performance boost in a few games.

 

Because right now you're basically sitting in the middle of the road, getting the worst from both sides (higher cost and can't overclock).

 

Basically if you're interested in overclocking and keeping the CPU for maybe another 2-3 years at least I would recommend you go for the 7700k instead, otherwise I would recommend you downgrade the mobo to a b250 or h270 one and get a cheaper CPU cooler like the be quiet shadow rock and save some money.

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3 minutes ago, FoxAxe said:

I will consider that how much chraper is it in average?

It depends on how low you're willing to go on the mobo, if you're willing to go down to an entry level ish b250 mobo you could save as much as €50, if you wanted to still have some more features and io and what not you could go to an h270 mobo and save €20-€30. Add in another €20-€30 for the costs saved by getting a cheaper CPU cooler.

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1 minute ago, Jorgen297 said:

is this true lol? cuz if it is i can run more GPUs on my pc

Yeah usually how it works is you have a 600 watt psu drawing 600/.85 watts from the outlet. Otherwise what would be the point of even giving a psu a psu wattage it can't even achieve? That being said it's not recommended to run a psu near its maximum power draw as if you have a weird influx in power draw your computer will crash.

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17 minutes ago, Jorgen297 said:

is this true lol? cuz if it is i can run more GPUs on my pc

Efficiency of the psu... lets say your PC components are drawing 100w of power. If you have a PSU that is 80% efficient, it will really draw 125w from the AC outlet.

 

@OP 600w is perfectly fine as long as its not a complete crap PSU, be quiet is good. Otherwise I'd recommend the EVGA G2, comes with 7 years of warranty and amazing customer service.

 

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1 hour ago, FoxAxe said:

Could you list me some relly good 90-70 power supplies 600w min 

 

And what do you think of Corsair VS650? Its on sale for 58.89 euros and its seems like a relly good deal

Is it reliable?

And if i buy it off amazon. De do i get the warranty and what kind of warranty does it get?

 

I already addressed your issue in a PM but no, do not buy the VS650 for your system.

2 hours ago, Brooksie359 said:

Yeah usually how it works is you have a 600 watt psu drawing 600/.85 watts from the outlet. Otherwise what would be the point of even giving a psu a psu wattage it can't even achieve? That being said it's not recommended to run a psu near its maximum power draw as if you have a weird influx in power draw your computer will crash.

Nope.

 

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2 hours ago, STRMfrmXMN said:

 

I already addressed your issue in a PM but no, do not buy the VS650 for your system.

Nope.

 

Can you be more specific as to what I said that you disagree with? I mean the thread seems to agree with what I said so idk what you meant.

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21 minutes ago, Brooksie359 said:

Can you be more specific as to what I said that you disagree with? I mean the thread seems to agree with what I said so idk what you meant.

The 80 PLUS efficiency ordeal. Lots of random info was being tossed around so I threw down the big hammer.

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1 hour ago, STRMfrmXMN said:

The 80 PLUS efficiency ordeal. Lots of random info was being tossed around so I threw down the big hammer.

Yeah I was just trying to correct them on the 600w being 600w no matter the efficiency

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