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ASUS, COLORFUL and MSI upcoming special GPU for mining ?

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source: https://videocardz.com/70254/asus-colorful-and-msi-showcase-their-mining-graphics-cards

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The first and most important information is that there at least two SKUs for miners being prepared by NVIDIA. Allegedly there’s a P104-100 card in the making, based on GTX 1080/1070 design. We don’t know yet how many CUDA cores are enabled, but since P104-100 is said to be paired with GDDR5X memory it may as well be GTX 1080. These cards are said to be more efficient than normal GeForce cards in cryptocurrency mining (~30 to ~10% depending on SKU).

So the manufacturers are joining the market where they see the money and also allow normal consumers to buy other products without being gobbled up by them miners

Techpowerup database: https://www.techpowerup.com/gpudb/b4698/asus-p106-100-mining

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EDIT: The "MINING Series" is now up on ASUS page, the mining cards are 1060 and 470 under the names MINING-P106-6G and MINING-RX470-4G

https://www.asus.com/Graphics-Cards/MINING-Series-Products/

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As long as the prices normalize in the consumer/enthusiast market for normal GPUs I'm fine with whatever they want to sell people.  

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3 hours ago, huilun02 said:

Asus brings us the opportunity to pay 1060 prices for a 470 yay! Also probably an inflated msrp that will take you longer to break even than the ordinary cards available today. 

 

Mining is so profitable that they would rather not use the cards to carry out their own mining operation. 

Prices were not mentioned,  so your jumping to conclusions. 

 

2nd, how do you know if Asus does or does or does not do any mining? Right, you don't. If they do, good for them. If they don't, well it only makes sense as they are a manufacturer and not a mining operation. 

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Frankly, I'm not so sure this will pan out the way they think, unless the prices are significantly less.  One of the "advantages" to miners using standard cards, is that they can sell them when they're done with them.  These cards have no resale value, due to a lack of output.

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More efficient = downclocked?

 

You can do this with a regular GPU to gain efficieny, estecially with polaris. Anyways, I think the cards are fine due to the demand, but the whole mining hipe is insane.

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Gonna suck for those who buy these when the mining bubble pops again if these aren't good for anything else.

 

edit: actually, I'm going to laugh when these flood eBay instead of the abused Radeon cards. 

 

 

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I just think its cool that a mining card from a regular vendor is even coming out. Would like to see them perform well both for miners and for gamers actually being able to get their hands on cards they want without overpaying so much over MSRP.

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18 minutes ago, zMeul said:

aprox 400$ - for India

So Sapphire also completely ditched all display connectors. They launched "Mining edition" GPUs in some markets back in February, which featured a single DVI port.

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Okay, wait a minute.  So there are GPU chips out there to mount on these PCBs, but not enough chips to satisfy demand as normal graphics cards?  In what way could this possibly alleviate the stress placed on the general consumer because of the scalping of graphics cards to crypto miners?  What's the game being played here, and what are the corners being cut to make this happen?  There's a piece to this puzzle I don't get, but I can smell its stink.

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1 hour ago, MoonSpot said:

Okay, wait a minute.  So there are GPU chips out there to mount on these PCBs, but not enough chips to satisfy demand as normal graphics cards?  In what way could this possibly alleviate the stress place on the general consumer because of the scalping of graphics cards to crypto miners?  What's the game being played here, and what are the corners being cut to make this happen?  There's a piece to this puzzle I don't get, but I can smell its stink.

the only thing that can help this is amd ramping up its silicon production nothing else will help 

plus this cards have less value to miners as their resale value will be super low (people will know that the card was used for mining and normal gamers can't use them to game because of the lack of display connectivity )

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If this works out well for F@H I could get some of these. Be a great addition for my build I am planning.

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On 6/24/2017 at 10:33 AM, MoonSpot said:

Okay, wait a minute.  So there are GPU chips out there to mount on these PCBs, but not enough chips to satisfy demand as normal graphics cards?  In what way could this possibly alleviate the stress placed on the general consumer because of the scalping of graphics cards to crypto miners?  What's the game being played here, and what are the corners being cut to make this happen?  There's a piece to this puzzle I don't get, but I can smell its stink.

There may be minor defect chips which are ok for computation but do not meet the full requirements for a consumer gaming card. This could allow these lower grade chips to be reused. Dunno if this will be a significant number. 

 

On 6/24/2017 at 11:49 AM, cj09beira said:

plus this cards have less value to miners as their resale value will be super low (people will know that the card was used for mining and normal gamers can't use them to game because of the lack of display connectivity )

There may be secondary uses. For example, at least on the AMD side the headless card might be paired with a regular one in crossfire. On nvidia side, we all wanted a dedicated physx processor right? :)

 

Also the distributed computing community is keeping an eye on what happens next, as there are many who want to expand their farms at low cost after the mining bubble bursts. They're not doing it for income, and just want to buy them as cheap as possible.

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Can you still run these on a Razor Core for gaming using the laptop display?  

 

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Does mining really work the PCI-E bandwidth?  If not, would it be possible to make the cards have direct USB-C external, rather than PCI-E, then you could potentially run many more cards per computer node.

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On 6/23/2017 at 1:03 PM, Jito463 said:

Frankly, I'm not so sure this will pan out the way they think, unless the prices are significantly less.  One of the "advantages" to miners using standard cards, is that they can sell them when they're done with them.  These cards have no resale value, due to a lack of output.

Logic would say a card used for mining also has little to no resale value.

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5 minutes ago, Snaeb said:

Logic would say a card used for mining also has little to no resale value.

When the Ethereum bubble bursts, you're going to see tons of second-hand cards on Ebay that were "never used for mining". 

With a gaming card a seller can try to pull that kind of trick, with a mining-specific card it's going to be much harder to fool potential buyers.

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On 2017-06-23 at 0:00 PM, Ginger137 said:

Prices were not mentioned,  so your jumping to conclusions. 

 

2nd, how do you know if Asus does or does or does not do any mining? Right, you don't. If they do, good for them. If they don't, well it only makes sense as they are a manufacturer and not a mining operation. 

i think its a pretty good idea. they need to stress test their GPUs and mining put a lot of load on GPU. So they accomplish two things by mining, stress test and some extra cash. Genius idea!

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2 hours ago, Devin92 said:

i think its a pretty good idea. they need to stress test their GPUs and mining put a lot of load on GPU. So they accomplish two things by mining, stress test and some extra cash. Genius idea!

That's not a bad idea at all really. I was really just trying to say the person I quoted made no sense that Asus would buy someone else's cards to mine.

 

Idk if mining would be a good stability test or if it misses some aspects of the card. It would be interesting to find out though and definitely benificial to Asus if they did

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3 hours ago, Captain Chaos said:

When the Ethereum bubble bursts, you're going to see tons of second-hand cards on Ebay that were "never used for mining". 

With a gaming card a seller can try to pull that kind of trick, with a mining-specific card it's going to be much harder to fool potential buyers.

ethereum will not burst it will fade away by design as they change to another method of maintaining the network

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sapphire is the only one to add video output on their mining card

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