High refresh rate w/o gsync vs low refresh rate w gsync

[zys5945]

I'm thinking to buy a eurocom tornado f5 and I'm really puzzled with which display to buy.

They offer 3 options:

1. IPS/PLS panel, 1080p at 60Hz with g-sync
2. IPS/PLS panel, 3840x2160 at 60Hz with g-sync ($120 CAD more)
3. TN panel 1080p at 120Hz without gsync ($174 CAD more)

The graphics card I'm thinking to buy is GTX 1070 with 8GB GDDR5

Which one do you guys think will be worth it?

I don't really do much color intensive work, nor am I a hard core gamer. I would use it for light gaming (League of Legends most likely, lol) and mainly for coding and running some VMs.

Thanks in advance!!

[McHox]

imo 60hz with gsync is a waste of money

[zys5945]

Do you think the GTX 1070 can saturate the 120Hz 1080p though? I'm really skeptical about that one.

[EunSoo]

3 minutes ago, McHox said:

imo 60hz with gsync is a waste of money

pls explain

[Siq]

Get the 3rd option. You'll feel the smoothness in everything you do over being limited to 60hz, especially seeming a 1070 will definitely get you over that 60fps.

I noticed everything I see is much smoother to move and follow with my 144hz TN panel, wouldn't go back.

[Master Disaster]

4 minutes ago, McHox said:

imo 60hz with gsync is a waste of money

You've obviously never experienced G Sync then.

 

2 minutes ago, zys5945 said:

Do you think the GTX 1070 can saturate the 120Hz 1080p though? I'm really skeptical about that one.

It a lot of games it can pretty easily, obviously not all though.

 

10 minutes ago, zys5945 said:

I'm thinking to buy a eurocom tornado f5 and I'm really puzzled with which display to buy.

They offer 3 options:

1. IPS/PLS panel, 1080p at 60Hz with g-sync
2. IPS/PLS panel, 3840x2160 at 60Hz with g-sync ($120 CAD more)
3. TN panel 1080p at 120Hz without gsync ($174 CAD more)

The graphics card I'm thinking to buy is GTX 1070 with 8GB GDDR5

Which one do you guys think will be worth it?

I don't really do much color intensive work, nor am I a hard core gamer. I would use it for light gaming (League of Legends most likely, lol) and mainly for coding and running some VMs.

Thanks in advance!!

Out of them choices I'd personally go for the 4K with G Sync option. I own a 4K G Sync display and a 1070 its a perfect combo, at 4K you can play as low as 30FPS and not even notice, if you can't push 4K then you just drop to 1440p instead.

 

Trust me, G Sync is pretty incredible. 30FPS feels no different to 100FPS.

[Cyracus]

7 minutes ago, zys5945 said:

Do you think the GTX 1070 can saturate the 120Hz 1080p though? I'm really skeptical about that one.

depends on what you're playing, for example wildlands I can only manage 60fps maxed settings with my 1070 OCd to 2050 on my 1080p monitor. In csgo I'm sure I could push as many as I could want. The 60fps gsync 4k monitor you'll have to turn some things down to stay over 30fps in some things, the minimum that gsync works at, but you won't find yourself exceeding 60fps much if at all. 

[Master Disaster]

Just now, Cyracus said:

depends on what you're playing, for example wildlands I can only manage 60fps maxed settings with my 1070 OCd to 2050 on my 1080p monitor. In csgo I'm sure I could push as many as I could want. The 60fps gsync 4k monitor you'll have to turn some things down to stay over 30fps in some things, the minimum that gsync works at, but you won't find yourself exceeding 60fps much if at all. 

FTR G Sync works below 30FPS but the returns get more and more diminished the lower the FPS goes, its FreeSync that stops working at a low FPS (the actual number depends on the panel)

 

Also something isn't right with your setup dude, my 1070 (OCed by +80 Core and +450 RAM) plays Wildlands at 4K with mostly everything maxxed (I have AA disabled, DOF disabled and something else disabled but can't remember off hand what that was) and I've never seen it drop below 45FPS.

 

Scrath that, I just fired it and checked and its actually running at the high preset with AA set to Temporal AA and DOF turned off.

[Zyndo]

37 minutes ago, zys5945 said:

I don't really do much color intensive work, nor am I a hard core gamer. I would use it for light gaming (League of Legends most likely, lol) and mainly for coding and running some VMs

If that is the case, ditch the whole G-sync concept, it will not be useful to you. You will be overpaying for a feature you do not need. G-sync is only useful when you play below your maximum refresh rate, which will never happen with a gtx 1070 at pretty much any resolution in league of legends. Spend your money on a high refresh rate panel (like a 144hz 1080p panel) as that will give you a tangible competitive benefit over those with slower monitors.

 

All G-sync does is eliminate tearing when gaming at fps below your monitors refresh rate without introducing some of the stuttering and input lag which can be present with V-sync. You can think of it as a sort of "advanced V-sync" if you will. in competitive games like LoL, Overwatch, CS:GO, etc... you will not want to use V-sync, and a gtx 1070 should be capable of getting you to your maximum refresh rate in those games without much issue, thus eliminating the need for G-sync. Conversely when you play a graphically intensive game like Witcher 3, input lag isn't such a huge deal so turning V-sync back on in order to eliminate tearing will be fine as well since a 1070 won't get you to your maximum refresh rate if you choose a faster than 60hz monitor.

My opinion on G-sync is its the last feature you should really invest in for a monitor... pretty much everything else is more useful in most situations. Paying for a higher refresh rate, better panel type, higher dynamic range, Q-dot, whatever.... all of that is worth investing in before the very minor benefits of G-sync IMO. Not saying G-sync is useless or worthless, I'm just saying there is other things more important to invest in first before you invest in G-sync IMO

[JoostinOnline]

32 minutes ago, Master Disaster said:

You've obviously never experienced G Sync then.

If you've got games running under 60fps, then you need to invest money in a better system.

[Master Disaster]

Just now, JoostinOnline said:

If you've got games running under 60fps, then you need to invest money in a better system.

Opinions are like a holes, everyones got one and they're usually full of shit.

[JoostinOnline]

Just now, Master Disaster said:

Opinions are like a holes, everyones got one and they're usually full of shit.

Do you run your games below 60fps?

[Master Disaster]

Just now, JoostinOnline said:

Do you run your games below 60fps?

I have G Sync so yes I do and why wouldn't I, I mean its not like G Sync was invented for exactly that purpose now. Oh Wait...

[JoostinOnline]

6 minutes ago, Master Disaster said:

I have G Sync so yes I do and why wouldn't I, I mean its not like G Sync was invented for exactly that purpose now. Oh Wait...

It was invented so you can use high refresh rates without having to worry about huge stuttering when you don't quite make the cap.  If you're going to spend an extra $100 for the G-Sync module, your monitor should be able to make use of it.  If you're having trouble with occasional frame drops, you can just enable triple buffering.  Depending on the game it can add a few ms of latency (or eliminate it), but that's a small price to pay.  If you've got a 60hz monitor you probably aren't concerned about latency.

 

I honestly didn't even know they made 1080p 60hz monitors with G-Sync.

[thedons1983]

2 hours ago, zys5945 said:

I'm thinking to buy a eurocom tornado f5 and I'm really puzzled with which display to buy.

They offer 3 options:

1. IPS/PLS panel, 1080p at 60Hz with g-sync
2. IPS/PLS panel, 3840x2160 at 60Hz with g-sync ($120 CAD more)
3. TN panel 1080p at 120Hz without gsync ($174 CAD more)

The graphics card I'm thinking to buy is GTX 1070 with 8GB GDDR5

Which one do you guys think will be worth it?

I don't really do much color intensive work, nor am I a hard core gamer. I would use it for light gaming (League of Legends most likely, lol) and mainly for coding and running some VMs.

Thanks in advance!!

Honestly get the 3rd option, as high refresh rates are just plain better. I recently moved to a 144Hz 1080P VA panel, and I could never go back to 60Hz, even if I got better resolution, etc, as it's just not worth it. My monitor is actually Freesync, but I've got a GTX 1060, so I can't use it. Even so the difference a high refresh rate makes to all games all the time, AND to everything else you will do on your PC, is night and day. Using the desktop feels nicer, with smoother mouse movement, as does scrolling through websites, and even watching Video. Games meanwhile have next to no blur, and latency is almost completely gone (depending on the exact screen in question I guess). I will not go back to 60Hz ever, because even if a game runs at 60FPS or even 30FPS, it will still look and play better on a 120Hz panel vs a 60Hz panel, and it's a big difference too. G-Sync is amazing, but only when it has the range of refresh rate available to it, to utilise the technology to the full.

 

Also I have a GTX 1060 as I said, so a 1070 at 1080p will be fine dude.

[McHox]

3 hours ago, zys5945 said:

Do you think the GTX 1070 can saturate the 120Hz 1080p though? I'm really skeptical about that one.

been running 1080p 144hz since 2014 on my old 970 and just upgraded a month ago,the 1070 will do a good job