7900X Coming In Hot?!

[The Benjamins]

4 minutes ago, Valentyn said:

Or get one of those EK predator modular loops. Get a 360mm + 280 mm and slap them all on the CPU

The predator is discontinued V2 was slated for spring but got delayed till fall

[Valentyn]

Just now, The Benjamins said:

The predator is discontinued V2 was slated for spring but got delayed till fall

Well since these CPUs don't exist in the EU really, it adds up for a perfect match

[done12many2]

5 minutes ago, Taf the Ghost said:

4 minutes into the video, Steve says that under max load @ 4.7 Ghz on the 7900X, on a 360mm rad-based loop that it's maxing out around 73-74 C. 

 

This is getting funny.

 

I said this at the beginning of this thread.  Using a small AIO as most of these YouTubers were doing was just wrong.  I understand why they did it, but anyone with common sense should have known better.

 

Smaller to medium sized AIOs aren't even common for people on x99 when combined with high overclocks.  Why would they be acceptable with even more cores and higher clocks on Skylake-X?

 

Most of the guys currently running HEDT already know what to expect as they've been down this road before.  I don't think any of them ever expected to slap an out of the box 280mm AIO to a 4.7 GHz 10 core part.  

[Taf the Ghost]

$1000 CPU + $300 Mobo + $300 Cooling.  >$1600 USD before graphics cards, case or any other I/O.

 

The Delid errors are going to be great humor.

[done12many2]

Just now, Taf the Ghost said:

$1000 CPU + $300 Mobo + $300 Cooling.  >$1600 USD before graphics cards, case or any other I/O.

 

The Delid errors are going to be great humor.

 

Or you could just run 4.2 to 4.4 GHz and save on the cooling.  We're not forced to use high clock speeds simply because the option to do so is there.  

[PCGuy_5960]

2 minutes ago, Taf the Ghost said:

$1000 CPU + $300 Mobo + $300 Cooling.  >$1600 USD before graphics cards, case or any other I/O.

 

The Delid errors are going to be great humor.

Believe me, if you want 4.7GHz on Threadripper you will have to spend $1000 on the cooler

[cj09beira]

3 minutes ago, PCGuy_5960 said:

Believe me, if you want 4.7GHz on Threadripper you will have to spend $1000 on the cooler

ln2 is just 1 pound per litre :-p

[Taf the Ghost]

1 minute ago, PCGuy_5960 said:

Believe me, if you want 4.7GHz on Threadripper you will have to spend $1000 on the cooler

I read that wrong at first.  Yes, you can probably LN2 it to that level.

 

I'm going to go out on a limb and say the best Performing setup in the HEDT is a Threadripper top-spec 16c part system, a KVM switch and a 7700k system right next to it.  I expect the the total cost to be below a full 7980XE system and give better overall performance in everything but very specific AVX512 workloads. 

[PCGuy_5960]

1 minute ago, cj09beira said:

ln2 is just 1 pound per litre :-p

Just now, Taf the Ghost said:

I read that wrong at first.  Yes, you can probably LN2 it to that level.

A phase change cooler costs $1000

[cj09beira]

Just now, PCGuy_5960 said:

A phase change cooler costs $1000

ln2 is better, more faster and more user interaction ;-)

more cheaper 

[done12many2]

Just now, Taf the Ghost said:

I'm going to go out on a limb and say the best Performing setup in the HEDT is a Threadripper top-spec 16c part system, a KVM switch and a 7700k system right next to it.  I expect the the total cost to be below a full 7980XE system and give better overall performance in everything but very specific AVX512 workloads. 

 

So much truth in that.  Best of both worlds with two separate task specific rigs.

[PCGuy_5960]

1 minute ago, cj09beira said:

ln2 is better, more faster and more user interaction ;-)

more cheaper 

But you can't use LN2 for daily overclocks....

[cj09beira]

Just now, PCGuy_5960 said:

But you can't use LN2 for daily overclocks....

thats were the user interaction part comes in 

[Brainless906]

13 minutes ago, PCGuy_5960 said:

But you can't use LN2 for daily overclocks....

Not with that attitude you cant..

[Taf the Ghost]

17 minutes ago, done12many2 said:

 

So much truth in that.  Best of both worlds with two separate task specific rigs.

It's also why I think the 28 PCIe lanes on the 7820X is the biggest insult of the product stack.  Full access plus solid OC without having to get too extreme on the cooling, yet can game & render at a good cost curve.   For a single CPU choice, that'd have been it on X299.

[TacoSenpai]

30 minutes ago, done12many2 said:

 

Or you could just run 4.2 to 4.4 GHz and save on the cooling.  We're not forced to use high clock speeds simply because the option to do so is there.  

To be honest even with something like a 280mm Corsair or a NH D15 I wouldn't feel very comfortable going above that on a 10 core.

[Dylanc1500]

25 minutes ago, PCGuy_5960 said:

A phase change cooler costs $1000

Not that it means anything, but I have seen external ones for as low $500.

[Kinda Bottlenecked]

16 hours ago, PCGuy_5960 said:

Custom loop

 

"with a thicc rad"

[done12many2]

1 minute ago, Pohernori said:

 

"with a thicc rad"

Length beats thickness.  Applies to rads too.  

[Kinda Bottlenecked]

15 hours ago, done12many2 said:

Length beats thickness.  Applies to rads too.  

 

its a "preference"  

 

/j

[done12many2]

4 minutes ago, Pohernori said:

 

its a "preference"  

 

/j

 

Jokes aside.  More surface area always provides better temps to thick rads.  This is to say that a 360mm 45mm thick rad will outperform a 240mm 60mm thick rad provided that they are equal design / quality.

 

I know, I'm fucking up the joke.  

[Kinda Bottlenecked]

15 hours ago, done12many2 said:

 

Jokes aside.  More surface area always provides better temps to thick rads.  This is to say that a 360mm 45mm thick rad will outperform a 240mm 60mm thick rad provided that they are equal design / quality.

 

I know, I'm fucking up the joke.  

 

Yeap I wouldn't disagree with that, the only reason why I'd go with a thicc rad would be that I wouldn't have space for a 360mm rad

[done12many2]

Just now, Pohernori said:

 

Yeap I wouldn't disagree with that, the only reason why I'd go with a thicc rad would be that I wouldn't have space for a 360mm rad

 

So odd when the thicc fits and the long doesn't. 

[Kinda Bottlenecked]

15 hours ago, done12many2 said:

 

So odd when the thicc fits and the long doesn't. 

 

Well, you can blame pre 2012 era cases for that. Only way I'd fit a 360mm rad in my ancient case is to mod it. A thicc rad wouldn't exactly fit either 

[done12many2]

Just now, Pohernori said:

 

Well, you can blame pre 2012 era cases for that. Only way I'd fit a 360mm rad in my ancient case is to mod it. A thicc rad wouldn't exactly fit either 

 

You got it in there and that's what matters.  Sometimes you just have to give it an extra push.