7900X Coming In Hot?!

[VagabondWraith]

I mean, they're not soldered, sure. Still doesn't stop i9/i7 from kicking Ryzen every which way to Sunday.

[tom_w141]

2 minutes ago, AnonymousGuy said:

Because AMD was selling *STOCK* clocked FX parts that were flame throwers.  That's the difference.   "Only" 4.5Ghz with an AIO is perfectly acceptable for the 7900X, especially when other reviewers got 4.6-4.8. For the big boys who delid and run custom loops, 5.0 is probably going to be within reach.

 

Because TR isn't going to be any better headroom than Ryzen.  16 cores 3.9Ghz.  Spoiler alert.

Did you read OP or watch the video at all before diving in? 4.5Ghz and 95 Degrees is far from acceptable... Saying higher clocks will be within reach if you delid? Go read the OP it says that. This thread is about the thermal issues if you don't delid or don't feel comfortable delidding a $1000 part.

 

Oh it isn't going to be any better? 16 cores won't be better than 8? May I borrow your crystal ball? The only thing that can predict is the 4-4.1Ghz ceiling because it is Ryzen. Again all of this is still irrelevant in a thread about X299 thermal issues at stock. Please try to remain on topic  

[TahoeDust]

1 minute ago, VagabondWraith said:

I mean, they're not soldered, sure. Still doesn't stop i9/i7 from kicking Ryzen every which way to Sunday.

but but but...it cost more and takes more power and runs hotter....  

[tom_w141]

3 minutes ago, VagabondWraith said:

I mean, they're not soldered, sure. Still doesn't stop i9/i7 from kicking Ryzen every which way to Sunday.

A Porsche also beats a mini van I don't see your point? Ryzen is mainstream and X299 is HEDT. X399 competes with X299 not Ryzen.

[VagabondWraith]

1 minute ago, TahoeDust said:

but but but...it cost more and takes more power and runs hotter....  

And it runs 5000 degrees Celsius and will heat an entire town!!

[VagabondWraith]

1 minute ago, tom_w141 said:

A Porsche also beats a mini van I don't see your point? Ryzen is mainstream and X299 is HEDT. X399 competes with X299 not Ryzen.

Ryzen will still get it's ass kicked in each product segment.

[tom_w141]

2 minutes ago, TahoeDust said:

but but but...it cost more and takes more power and runs hotter....  

Again this has nothing to do with OP. The post is regarding thermal issues when these cpus are not delidded. 

 

List of things not relevant to this thread:

-Ryzen

-AMD

-Performance

 

Things that are relevant:

-X299 Thermals and delidding

[Shreyas1]

Intel is the new amd from 2 years ago

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[tom_w141]

1 minute ago, VagabondWraith said:

Ryzen will still get it's ass kicked in each product segment.

Ok buddy again incredibly off topic and irrelevant. Please don't clog the thread for other users wishing to discuss the actual topic. I get it falling back on old arguments makes you feel better about your future purchase but it's not relevant to the thread topic this time.

[TahoeDust]

3 minutes ago, tom_w141 said:

Again this has nothing to do with OP. The post is regarding thermal issues when these cpus are not delidded. 

 

List of things not relevant to this thread:

-Ryzen

-AMD

-Performance

 

Things that are relevant:

-X299 Thermals and delidding

Oh sorry.  I didn't realize I was in the only x299 based thread where Ryzen or performance wasn't being mentioned.

 

Not sarcastic.

[AnonymousGuy]

9 minutes ago, tom_w141 said:

Again all of this is still irrelevant in a thread about X299 thermal issues at stock. Please try to remain on topic  

Did you really go full retard and forget what your own thread was about?

 

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 So temperatures we were seeing north of 90 Celsius with 4.5Ghz at 1.275V

 

[TahoeDust]

I'll get on topic.  I ordered a 7820x.  I am hoping that it will be like OC3D's and I will be able to run it at 4.8GHz @ 1.22v and in the mid 70s.  That would be pretty incredible.  I am planning on delidding it either way, how well it performs stock will dictate how soon that is done.

[VagabondWraith]

4 minutes ago, TahoeDust said:

I'll get on topic.  I ordered a 7820x.  I am hoping that it will be like OC3D's and I will be able to run it at 4.8GHz @ 1.22v and in the mid 70s.  That would be pretty incredible.  I am planning on delidding it either way, how well it performs stock will dictate how soon that is done.

I'll have my stuff Monday or Tuesday. I went from a 4790K, to a 6700K, and now to a 7820X. Can't wait to get a fresh install on windows 10 up and running. First thing I'll do is run Fire Strike benchmarks and TimeSpy with a 7820X and a 1080 Ti OC to 2063 core/12,400 memory and see the massive improvements from my 6700K! 

 

Then that weekend I'll see what my CPU is capable of and if I'll need an LN2 AIO or not.  

[TahoeDust]

5 minutes ago, VagabondWraith said:

I'll have my stuff Monday or Tuesday. I went from a 4790K, to a 6700K, and now to a 7820X. Can't wait to get a fresh install on windows 10 up and running. First thing I'll do is run Fire Strike benchmarks and TimeSpy with a 7820X and a 1080 Ti OC to 2063 core/12,400 memory and see the massive improvements from my 6700K! 

 

Then that weekend I'll see what my CPU is capable of and if I'll need an LN2 AIO or not.  

I'm going from a 2700k @4.8+ MHz to the 7820x.  Unfortunately, my 1080 ti does not do 2063...more like 2025.  Lets see that Fire Strike and Timespy benchmarks with the 6700k...

 

#Commence dick measuring contest.

[DildorTheDecent]

37 minutes ago, tom_w141 said:

It's got nothing to do with who he manufacturer is we both know this thread would exist if it was Threadripper or Ryzen running 95 degrees. AMD got a lot of shit for running hot in the past so why shouldn't Intel?

Intel has had flak for hot CPUs in the past too dude. 

 

Prescott sucked and power and kicked heat like a monster. One whole core pushing 3.5GHz+ was mega a the time but it had issues. 

[Not_Sean]

1 minute ago, TahoeDust said:

#Commence dick measuring contest.

hahaha Pretty much all I see when non Prosumers buy these CPUs.. Its all about that ePenis 

[VagabondWraith]

5 minutes ago, TahoeDust said:

I'm going from a 2700k @4.8+ MHz to the 7820x.  Unfortunately, my 1080 ti does not do 2063...more like 2025.  Lets see that Fire Strike and Timespy benchmarks with the 6700k...

 

#Commence dick measuring contest.

You can find them on the 3DMark thread here. 

 

Sad thing is, I had a Titan XP (the first one) that did 2126 on the core, and 12,600 memory. I decided to trade down by sending it back to save a buck for the 1080 Ti. Score about 150-200 pts lower, but saved $500 bucks.  That thing was a beast and I definitely hit the lottery.

[tom_w141]

31 minutes ago, TahoeDust said:

I'll get on topic.  I ordered a 7820x.  I am hoping that it will be like OC3D's and I will be able to run it at 4.8GHz @ 1.22v and in the mid 70s.  That would be pretty incredible.  I am planning on delidding it either way, how well it performs stock will dictate how soon that is done.

 

21 minutes ago, VagabondWraith said:

I'll have my stuff Monday or Tuesday. I went from a 4790K, to a 6700K, and now to a 7820X. Can't wait to get a fresh install on windows 10 up and running. First thing I'll do is run Fire Strike benchmarks and TimeSpy with a 7820X and a 1080 Ti OC to 2063 core/12,400 memory and see the massive improvements from my 6700K! 

 

Then that weekend I'll see what my CPU is capable of and if I'll need an LN2 AIO or not.  

Good luck guys, look forward to seeing your results next week.  

[TahoeDust]

21 minutes ago, VagabondWraith said:

You can find them on the 3DMark thread here. 

It's weird man.  My 1080 ti clocks less than your, but scores better.  It is odd because my first 1080 ti clocked better than my FTW3 also.  But in both cases the FTW3 scored higher at a lower clock.

 

http://www.3dmark.com/fs/12823810

 

 

[VagabondWraith]

2 minutes ago, TahoeDust said:

It's weird man.  My 1080 ti clocks less than your, but scores better.  It is odd because my first 1080 ti clocked better than my FTW3 also.  But in both cases the FTW3 scored higher at a lower clock.

 

http://www.3dmark.com/fs/12823810

 

 

Yeah, that's weird. I got ~ 29,600ish graphics with my Ti. Makes me wonder if there was other conflicts along the way I wasn't privy of. My CPU was stock during those tests, but still. It's tough to tell the answer because there could be a million reasons (i.e. bloated windows/processes/drivers, etc.). Hopefully, a fresh install will have better results.

 

When you get your setup going, post your scores in the 3DMark thread so we can compare results.

[goodtofufriday]

4 hours ago, tom_w141 said:

The sad thing is a custom loop isn't that much better than a top end AIO really. Maybe 10 degrees and that is being generous. So that would be 85, unfortunately with these a delid will be compulsory for overclocking whether you have a custom loop or not.

Disagree. More radiator surface area more cooling. A 240mm cant cool as well as a 480mm radiator. 

[leadeater]

10 minutes ago, goodtofufriday said:

Disagree. More radiator surface area more cooling. A 240mm cant cool as well as a 480mm radiator. 

Considering 3x 480mm (63mm deep) RADs can passively (no fans) cool an OC'd 4930k and two 290X's yes, surface area makes a huge difference.

[The Benjamins]

36 minutes ago, goodtofufriday said:

Disagree. More radiator surface area more cooling. A 240mm cant cool as well as a 480mm radiator. 

 

24 minutes ago, leadeater said:

Considering 3x 480mm (63mm deep) RADs can passively (no fans) cool an OC'd 4930k and two 290X's yes, surface area makes a huge difference.

 

The blocks cooling potential is limited more rads will not make the block cool any better, but will allow the heat grabbed by the liquid to escape. so a top tier AIO can be just as good as a loop. it is just a custom loop allows for more parts to be cooled.

[goodtofufriday]

35 minutes ago, The Benjamins said:

 

 

The blocks cooling potential is limited more rads will not make the block cool any better, but will allow the heat grabbed by the liquid to escape. so a top tier AIO can be just as good as a loop. it is just a custom loop allows for more parts to be cooled.

Not quite. 

With more rads in general the water can be kept at a lower temp overall. So the load temp over a period of time will be lower than any AIO. 

[AnonymousGuy]

46 minutes ago, The Benjamins said:

 

 

The blocks cooling potential is limited more rads will not make the block cool any better, but will allow the heat grabbed by the liquid to escape. so a top tier AIO can be just as good as a loop. it is just a custom loop allows for more parts to be cooled.

The blocks they use with AIO coolers are not top tier designed blocks. They may not even be copper to save cost. 

 

AIO can be as good as a custom loop, but I don't know off the top of my head how close it is.