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7740X's overclockabilty reviewed

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It needs new LGA 2066 mobo right? I won't get this chip for that bit of extra clock speed when I have to match it with an expensive new mobo

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2 minutes ago, OriAr said:

So Video Cardz tested 7740X's OC, apparently a good unit can do 5 GHz at 1.21V :o

Very impressive! Let's hope that X299 motherboards aren't too expensive :D

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4 minutes ago, Sauron said:

It still makes no sense given the cost of the platform.

And the fact that you won't even use half of the features of the mobo with this CPU... Classic ^_^

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2 minutes ago, PCGuy_5960 said:

Very impressive! Let's hope that X299 motherboards aren't too expensive :D

That's kinda impossible to ever happen. It's gonna be more impossible than a white raven (which does exist).

 

Well, depends on what you consider "expensive".

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4 minutes ago, Sauron said:

It still makes no sense given the cost of the platform.

 

It's simply provided as an options to enthusiast overclockers and for those folks who want to make the least expensive entry into x299 that they could.  

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2 minutes ago, YoloSwag said:

Well, depends on what you consider "expensive".

$150-170

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3 minutes ago, PCGuy_5960 said:

$150ish

Unlikely, X299 needs to support for both kabylake-X and skylake-X (requirement from Intel) so they can't just go cheapskate and ditch stuff that kabylake-X doesn't use.

So it's likely prices will start from 200 dollars.

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Just now, OriAr said:

Entry X299 mobos will be around that price if X99 is anything to go by

Just now, samcool55 said:

Unlikely, X299 needs to support for both kabylake-X and skylake-X (requirement from Intel) so they can't just go cheapskate and ditch stuff that kabylake-X doesn't use.

So it's likely prices will start from 200 dollars.

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1 minute ago, OriAr said:

Entry X299 mobos will be around that price if X99 is anything to go by

You do realize that X99 has been out for a while, that's why the prices are "low" now. I don't expect cheaper X299 than $200 at launch.

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isn't that about on par with good 7700k's though?  @done12many2 's 7700k is 5.3ghz at 1.44v too.  

 

That said it'd be nice if they brought the average up a little and fix TIM issues as my 7700k seems to be "worse" than the worst 7740k they've tested.  Currently requiring 1.376v for 5.0GHz and getting too hot to try for 5.1ghz, even with a custom loop.  

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27 minutes ago, done12many2 said:

 

It's simply provided as an options to enthusiast overclockers and for those folks who want to make the least expensive entry into x299 that they could.  

Could say the same about the super cheap Xeon's though. X99 had extremely cheap Xeons you could buy for $200ish (even cheaper if you bought used on Ebay) to use as stop-gaps or diagnostic backups. If your intent is to use the quad cores for long term on X299, it makes little sense given it's still artificially limited to dual channel and only a fraction of the PCIe lanes. We've even heard that certain M.2 ports won't even work on these CPU's from some board partners depending on how they are wired.

 

I agree with the questioning of these CPU's existence, because frankly, they don't need to exist. Had they kept them quad channel, and given them a static PCIe count throughout the entire stack, I'd at least see it's benefit for people that needed lanes/raw bandwidth, and not the processing power to go with it, but as it stands, it's basically an extension of the consumer platform, glued on to the enthusiast one. Just lacks every "enthusiast" feature that comes with it.

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13 minutes ago, 0ld_Chicken said:

isn't that about on par with good 7700k's though?  @done12many2 's 7700k is 5.3ghz at 1.44v too.  

 

That said it'd be nice if they brought the average up a little and fix TIM issues as my 7700k seems to be "worse" than the worst 7740k they've tested.  Currently requiring 1.376v for 5.0GHz and getting too hot to try for 5.1ghz, even with a custom loop.  

 

With my current 7700k, I can run Cinebench R15 (standard used for the article) at 5.3 GHz with just under 1.4v, but my chip is pretty rare, delidded, and on a pretty ridiculous sized water loop.  

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1 minute ago, MageTank said:

I agree with the questioning of these CPU's existence, because frankly, they don't need to exist. Had they kept them quad channel, and given them a static PCIe count throughout the entire stack, I'd at least see it's benefit for people that needed lanes/raw bandwidth, and not the processing power to go with it, but as it stands, it's basically an extension of the consumer platform, glued on to the enthusiast one. Just lacks every "enthusiast" feature that comes with it.

 

No matter how much we try to tell Intel that they don't need to exist, they are going to sell.  Probably better then the LTT forums would ever allow people to believe.  :D

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16 minutes ago, goodtofufriday said:

You really using the price of a 3 year old board? 

At launch for x99 the cheapest boards were 240$

Not quite... the MSI SLI Plus was selling for 179 for the first 6 months or so of x99 launch. And not a bad board either)

 

But yeah. 200 is going to be low end.

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Well it wouldn't be worse than normal kabylake now would it? 

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Wow faster clock speeds and a ruined motherboard. Nah I'm honestly good for the next 4 years. Also saying it's for enthusiasts only might be true but that's a tiny fraction of the market so Intel shouldn't expect great sales

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30 minutes ago, MageTank said:

Could say the same about the super cheap Xeon's though. X99 had extremely cheap Xeons you could buy for $200ish (even cheaper if you bought used on Ebay) to use as stop-gaps or diagnostic backups.

This is for me the most disappointing thing about X299, not being socket compatible with Xeons.

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2 minutes ago, leadeater said:

This is for me the most disappointing thing about X299, not being socket compatible with Xeons.

 

Wouldn't it be cool if we started looking at what Intel might be up to with this 7740X experiment?  After all, nobody expected current day mainstream to find its way into the Extreme line, but I for one wouldn't be pissed if 8th gen mainstream found it's way as well.  

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3 minutes ago, leadeater said:

This is for me the most disappointing thing about X299, not being socket compatible with Xeons.

Xeons are not socket compatible? :o

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I'm guessing the chips in this review were not delidded. 

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