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7900X reviewed!

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Just now, Valentyn said:

Yeah, I noticed Jay also poinst out his 1800X system only had 16GB of RAM vs 32GB on the 5960X. I know when I do small 4K projects it uses at least 20GB on my system.
Although since we can't download and test his workflow for benchmarking it's not possible to know just how much it used.

 

Wish Jay had a review site, it's nice when some companies and people in the video work actually upload their "tests" so a person can download and compare it with your system, and their results.

 

Agreed, it would be nice to see the "what does this mean to me?" for yourself.  

 

Anyways, it's pretty cool that a 2.5 year old CPU more than keeps up with latest gen chips in serious workloads.  


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56 minutes ago, done12many2 said:

Now you and I both know that @tom_w141 prefers shaping the outcome to make a point. :)

Ironic when I didn't provide the dataset used for that spreadsheet? I literally just fed in the data from @PCGuy_5960's graphs so you can't accuse me of shaping anything :P 

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5 minutes ago, tom_w141 said:

You can't really blame me for the contents of the my spreadsheet when it is created using data you provided. :P 

Yeah, I am simply saying that if you overclock both, the 7820X will destroy the 1800X :D

(And this is why I have decided to get a 7820X or a 7800X :P)


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Just now, tom_w141 said:

Ironic when I didn't provide the dataset used for that spreadsheet? I literally just fed in the data from @PCGuy_5960's graphs so you can't accuse me of shaping anything :P 

 

I retract that comment.  Sort of.  xD


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2 minutes ago, done12many2 said:

 

Agreed, it would be nice to see the "what does this mean to me?" for yourself.  

 

Anyways, it's pretty cool that a 2.5 year old CPU more than keeps up with latest gen chips in serious workloads.  

It's also a little annoying really. :P

TechDeals has been putting out video comparing the 7700K and 1600X vs a 2600K overclocked to 4.5Ghz, and it's amazingly how well some older chips still hold up.

I myself have decided if Threadripper doesn't deliver, and I don't want to slap down over 1K for 7820X or 7900X + motherboard, I might just try and pick up a 5960X/6900K or 6950X second hand and plop that into my system.

With a little overclock it'll keep me purring along until the next gens. Although that new full system itch really wants to be scratched :o


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1 minute ago, PCGuy_5960 said:

Yeah, I am simply saying that if you overclock both, the 7820X will destroy the 1800X :D

(And this is why I have decided to get a 7820X or a 7800X :P)

Intel does what AMDon't. :D 


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1 minute ago, Valentyn said:

It's also a little annoying really. :P

TechDeals has been putting out video comparing the 7700K and 1600X vs a 2600K overclocked to 4.5Ghz, and it's amazingly how well some older chips still hold up.

I myself have decided if Threadripper doesn't deliver, and I don't want to slap down over 1K for 7820X or 7900X + motherboard, I might just try and pick up a 5960X/6900K or 6950X second hand and plop that into my system.

With a little overclock it'll keep me purring along until the next gens. Although that new full system itch really wants to be scratched :o

I think the actual issue is that Sandy Bridge was so brilliant that Intel surveyed the situation and pushed all of the improvements into areas that consumers really don't see unless it's at 15w parts.  You've got to either buy Mobile or Ultra-expensive (i.e. Servers) to see sizable boosts since.  It's the reason why every mainstream K SKU has held up so well and, unless you've got a 1080 or 1080 Ti, you pretty much don't need an upgrade... still.

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If you pre-ordered your chip from B&H when their prices were inflated yesterday morning, their prices have been changed to fall in-line with everyone else.  Shoot them an email or give them a call and they will adjust your price and/or refund you the difference.


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Looks like with the newest bios update Tweaktown is now reporting the 7900k is beating the 6950x in gaming across the board...as it should..

 

http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/8225/intel-core-i9-7900x-series-skylake-cpu-review/index7.html

 

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It's clear, with Turbo Boost Max 3.0, Skylake-X is Intel's best gaming CPU other than the 7700K in our charts (I don't know how the other Skylake-X or Kaby Lake-X CPUs perform yet), but without it, we see it tie or perhaps lose to the 6950X. The good news is that it costs $700 less than the 6950X. I should mention that Intel Optimized just means Intel Stock.

 

The issue is that the normal 7900K results were done on older BIOS versions, while the new ones are done on the latest BIOS versions that support Turbo 3 without any software requirements. You will see results in line with the better performing 7900X results, but I do know some other media who were getting the same low gaming scores I was, and that was because Turbo 3 wasn't working.

 

Memory increase from 2133Mhz to 2666Mhz with the same timings also makes a difference in the gaming results. Ashes of Singularity is one of our outliers, but that is most likely because they have to optimize the code for the CPU, just like had to be done for Ryzen.

 


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EDIT: Ninja'd by @TahoeDust :P

 

TweakTown got a new BIOS update that fixes the gaming issue. 7900X now consistently faster than the 6950X and matching/beating the 7700K.

 

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2 hours ago, VagabondWraith said:

EDIT: Ninja'd by @TahoeDust :P

 

TweakTown got a new BIOS update that fixes the gaming issue. 7900X now consistently faster than the 6950X and matching/beating the 7700K.

 

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I thought those were in the original release yesterday?   We were posting those graphs earlier today.

 

It single-core turbos to the same level as the 7700k on a very similar core.  And water is wet. :)  Though the 7700k is the better gaming CPU in nearly all cases still.

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