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Why get an SSD with low storage capacity?

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Posted · Original PosterOP

Guys this is something I have been wondering about for ages now. Just about any youtuber who does like a pc build video adds an 240gb ssd and a 1tb harddrive in that build. The ssd being where windows would be installed as they say. I have had a few friends who did this and then had all of their games on the 1tb hard drive. Somehow they do run out of storage on the ssd even though they install the games on the 1tb hard drive, i'm guessing this is because some of the data does get saved on the ssd but then comes the question why do they recommend it if you run out of storage real quickly. A friend of mine bairly owns any games and has a 250gb ssd that is completley full even though he uses the hard drive as main storage. Am I missing something, I don't get why you would have an ssd with such a low storage capacity when what I just mentioned happends after a little while.

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If you manage files properly you won't run out of space, my 120gb ssd which is my boot drive only uses about 90gb, and most of that is because i accidentally installed horizon 3 onto it :P 


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Well I am rich and use a 10TB SSD and put everything on that. 

 

Just wait 20 years, one day we might be able to buy 20TB SSDs

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Ya, generally if you just keep Windows and maybe one or two games on a SSD it won't fill up, this is esspecially true if you switch the folder locations for like downloads and stuff to your HDD.

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They apparently forgot to make the SSD as D drive and install Windows to it. Apps install themselves to the C drive default, so if your SSD is the C drive, not the HDD, you will need to manually direct the installation to the HDD. If you don't, all these apps will pile up in the SSD, using up it's capacity.


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It's an issue of price. SSDs are getting cheaper all the time, but a 1 TB SSD is still quite expensive. If you're careful, you can make 240/256 GB work just fine. I have a 128 GB SSD, and while I'd love more, I'm much better off with it than without it.

 

At the time I bought mine (2012-ish), 128 GB was around $200–225. Naturally I'd get a bigger one if buying today. :P

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I'm pretty sure only a man who doesn't know to manage his files can run out of 250 GBs of space without knowing how it got used.

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16 minutes ago, Siragxl said:

A friend of mine bairly owns any games and has a 250gb ssd that is completley full even though he uses the hard drive as main storage.

I dont understand, i used a 32gb ssd a couple of years back for a few months and usually had about 4gb free space left. (after installing some stuff on the ssd, like steam and chrome).
Currently using a 240gb ssd with 90gb free space left. Most of the usage is smaller games/applications...
I also have 3x 1tb hdds which have 140gb, 444gb and 816gb of free space. Games and apps, raw footage, archived stuff in the respective order.

 

Stuff i do:

-disable hibernation

-set all libraries and downloads on hdd

-install anything above 500mb on the hdd (unless games, and space is available)

-dont dump stuff on the desktop

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In an ideal world you'd go out and buy a 4tb ssd and that would be it. Unfortunately those are really expensive. As a compromise, people buy an ssd they can actually afford and then a hard disk to compensate for the low capacity. If you manage it carefully you won't run out of space and the benefits are immediately apparent when comparing the user experience to a hdd-only system.


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Price. They're making videos for people that are on more fixed budgets. If you can afford it, full SSD is of course the best way to go. My next PC will be full SSD, and even my budget build I'm working on will likely feature full SSD.

I can easily fill up a 250GB SSD, often without having more than a game or two and my programs and saved files.

 

13 hours ago, CUDA_Cores said:

Well I am rich and use a 10TB SSD and put everything on that. 

 

Just wait 20 years, one day we might be able to buy 20TB SSDs

Haha, in 20 years I don't think SSDs will be a thing anymore.


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2 minutes ago, dizmo said:

Price. They're making videos for people that are on more fixed budgets. If you can afford it, full SSD is of course the best way to go. My next PC will be full SSD, and even my budget build I'm working on will likely feature full SSD.

I can easily fill up a 250GB SSD, often without having more than a game or two and my programs and saved files.

 

Haha, in 20 years I don't think SSDs will be a thing anymore.

20 years ago, hard drives were still a thing. I think we will still have SSDs too. People often greatly exaggerate how fast technology moves. Just look at back to the future. Everyone thought we would have flying cars in 2015, but that never happened.

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9 minutes ago, CUDA_Cores said:

20 years ago, hard drives were still a thing. I think we will still have SSDs too. People often greatly exaggerate how fast technology moves. Just look at back to the future. Everyone thought we would have flying cars in 2015, but that never happened.

You need to realize that as we advance, so does the speed of technological improvements.

You're young. Give it some time and you'll realize how quickly it moves.


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Just now, dizmo said:

You need to realize that as we advance, so does the speed of technological improvements.

You're young. Give it some time and you'll realize how quickly it moves.

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Posted · Original PosterOP
On 2017-6-16 at 4:06 PM, Jurrunio said:

They apparently forgot to make the SSD as D drive and install Windows to it.

I don't quite understand what you mean, aren't you supposed to have windows on C drive? I thought it wouldn't work other wise. And if there's some way around that can you please clarify?

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6 minutes ago, Siragxl said:

I don't quite understand what you mean, aren't you supposed to have windows on C drive? I thought it wouldn't work other wise. And if there's some way around that can you please clarify?

Ooooops I made a mistake. Windows in C drive (SSD), "Users" folder (the one that saves account info) in hard disk.


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On 18-6-2017 at 1:37 AM, Jurrunio said:

Ooooops I made a mistake. Windows in C drive (SSD), "Users" folder (the one that saves account info) in hard disk.

Yeah thought so, but how would you move the "users" folder then? Just cut and paste ? 

 

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42 minutes ago, Siragxl said:

Yeah thought so, but how would you move the "users" folder then? Just cut and paste ? 

 

I used this tutorial to move mine

 

https://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/1964-move-users-folder-location-windows-10-a.html


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My 120 GB SSD has around 30-35 GB free. I could probably shave down a few more GB by moving my PS2 .Iso files onto the HDD, though emulation tends to stutter if I do so. 

 

And then I've a bunch of downloaded YouTube videos that I haven't bothered to move yet, as well as some game save folders. 


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I just recently upgraded my laptop from a 500GB SSD to a 1TB SSD. I got out of the Air Force and got a pretty good separation bonus, so I wanted to buy me something with it before paying off bills.

 

My laptop has two HDD Sata ports, and I also have a 2TB HDD in it as well.

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