Worthy investment? [PRE-BUILT GAMING DESKTOP]

[porkswordoj]

Hello everyone,

 

I've been watching Linus's videos for a little while now and just now found he has a forum. I've decided to FINALLY upgrade to a better PC (currently on a 2011 SONY VAIO all-in-one). A store that's nearby is called Memory Express, a Canadian chain that sells computers, and I found this on their website when comparing part prices, http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX66947 . 

 

It's around the same price I was willing to spend for a new PC, but the most important thing to me is that I'll be able to run games at the highest settings (which I don't doubt), but also that it'll be a lasting investment. Essentially, do you see this PC still being decently usable in the next half-decade? Thanks.

[ttam]

That is incredibly expensive.

[porkswordoj]

Just now, ttam said:

That is incredibly expensive.

It's in CAD if that makes a difference

[Le Sulfur]

Yes it'll last a long time, though you could save 400-600 by building your own

[iRileyx]

For longetivity(and performance) this would be better, especially if you want at least 5 years out of it. Only ~$2500 but doesn't include Windows, you can pick that up for about $25 on Kinguin.

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/NB2V9W

 

 

Edit - added a better quality power supply in there whilst there's still plenty of room left on the budget.

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/wNK3Gf

 

[ttam]

2 minutes ago, porkswordoj said:

It's in CAD if that makes a difference

Makes sense now, but still $500 more than it should really cost. I built a random build using near same parts and came out to $2400 cad.

[Le Sulfur]

3 minutes ago, RKRiley said:

For longetivity(and performance) this would be better, especially if you want at least 5 years out of it. Only ~$2500 but doesn't include Windows, you can pick that up for about $25 on Kinguin.

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/NB2V9W

 

 

Edit - added a better quality power supply in there whilst there's still plenty of room left on the budget.

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/wNK3Gf

 

1800x for gaming? 7700k is better if all he's going to be doing is gaming

[iRileyx]

Just now, Le Sulfur said:

1800x for gaming? 7700k is better if all he's going to be doing is gaming

The 1800x is still good for gaming, granted lower framerates, but better minimum FPS in most titles and better frametimes.

[porkswordoj]

Ah yes, I should mention I'm gonna be gaming mostly on games like Arma 3, Rust, GTA V, etc and occasional Adobe Illustrator 

[Le Sulfur]

Just now, porkswordoj said:

Ah yes, I should mention I'm gonna be gaming mostly on games like Arma 3, Rust, GTA V, etc and occasional Adobe Illustrator 

are you comfortable building your own pc? There are many tutorials on how to do it, it's pretty easy, and it's a fun experience that you'll be very pleased with in the end.

[RadiatingLight]

1 minute ago, porkswordoj said:

Ah yes, I should mention I'm gonna be gaming mostly on games like Arma 3, Rust, GTA V, etc and occasional Adobe Illustrator 

Definitely build your own system.

if your use of Illustrator is for more than simply creativity (pro use, need speed) I'd recommend a Ryzen 1700

[grimreeper132]

3 minutes ago, RadiatingLight said:

Definitely build your own system.

if your use of Illustrator is for more than simply creativity (pro use, need speed) I'd recommend a Ryzen 1700

only get the 1700 if your going to overclock though as you need to overclock it for you to have it work as well as you will want it to work in your games

 

if your not get the 1800X but I do suggest overclocking the 1700 it's cheaper

 

[Technomancer__]

6 minutes ago, RKRiley said:

The 1800x is still good for gaming, granted lower framerates, but better minimum FPS in most titles and better frametimes.

Yea forgot to add that the 7700k is a little bit faster at 1080p and since he is going to get a 1080ti I don't think that he is going to be playing at 1080

 

Correct me if am wrong but I think i t matters a bit in high refreshrates

[RadiatingLight]

Same Parts - $500 Cheaper:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i7-7700K 4.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($459.50 @ Vuugo)
CPU Cooler: Corsair - H100i v2 70.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($129.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Motherboard: MSI - Z270 SLI ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($177.50 @ Vuugo)
Memory: G.Skill - Trident Z RGB 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($184.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Storage: Western Digital - Blue 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($118.75 @ shopRBC)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($64.75 @ Vuugo)
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB SC Black Edition Video Card  ($959.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Case: Phanteks - ECLIPSE P400S TEMPERED GLASS ATX Mid Tower Case  ($123.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G3 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($139.98 @ DirectCanada)
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit  ($124.50 @ Vuugo)
Total: $2483.94
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-06-12 18:02 EDT-0400

 

I'd recommend this one though, which is better for pro work, and cheaper:

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 1700 3.0GHz 8-Core Processor  ($406.95 @ shopRBC)
CPU Cooler: Corsair - H100i v2 70.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($129.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Motherboard: MSI - X370 SLI PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($177.50 @ Vuugo)
Memory: G.Skill - Trident Z RGB 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($184.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Storage: Western Digital - Blue 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($118.75 @ shopRBC)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($64.75 @ Vuugo)
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB SC Black Edition Video Card  ($959.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Case: Phanteks - ECLIPSE P400S TEMPERED GLASS ATX Mid Tower Case  ($123.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G3 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($139.98 @ DirectCanada)
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit  ($124.50 @ Vuugo)
Total: $2431.39
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-06-12 18:03 EDT-0400

[RadiatingLight]

2 minutes ago, grimreeper132 said:

only get the 1700 if your going to overclock though as you need to overclock it for you to have it work as well as you will want it to work in your games

 

if your not get the 1800X but I do suggest overclocking the 1700 it's cheaper

 

It's not a bad CPU at stock, but that 10-15% performance improvement with OC'ing is definitely worth.

[Technomancer__]

14 minutes ago, RKRiley said:

For longetivity(and performance) this would be better, especially if you want at least 5 years out of it. Only ~$2500 but doesn't include Windows, you can pick that up for about $25 on Kinguin.

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/NB2V9W

 

 

Edit - added a better quality power supply in there whilst there's still plenty of room left on the budget.

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/wNK3Gf

 

Evga clc 280 has a little bit better performance and features at the same price

He can get the 1700 and oc it to save some money

[grimreeper132]

Just now, RadiatingLight said:

It's not a bad CPU at stock, but that 10-15% performance improvement with OC'ing is definitely worth.

no it's a great CPU overclocked or not, but as you just said overclocked it's 10-15% better, and almost exactly the same to the 1800X when it's overclocked. That being said the new GSkill RAM which has the really high frequencies is said to run better on the X CPUs of ryzen so there is that, but I doubt the OP will be using that RAM so it should be all fine

[Pendragon]

Yea no. Terrible idea. If you live in canada. Buy it from ncix. And price match EVERYTHING to the cheapest one you can find. And then pay 50 for their assembly. 

[porkswordoj]

Thankyou all for helping me save a bit of money, I've decided I'm probably gonna buy the parts myself and pay a 70$ assembly fee from them instead to save a bit of money to go towards a nice monitor. Thanks again!

[Teddy07]

10 hours ago, porkswordoj said:

Thankyou all for helping me save a bit of money, I've decided I'm probably gonna buy the parts myself and pay a 70$ assembly fee from them instead to save a bit of money to go towards a nice monitor. Thanks again!

 

Good decision.

 

I personally wouldn't buy an expensive PC now and use it for a few years. I would rather spend less on the GPU now and sell it in ~2 years and buy a new midtier one which is usually as good as the old tier once from previous years. Ignore this post if you want to play in 4k now.