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[BDunkz]

Is it ok if I use 3 wd red 4tb drives but do I use raid and if so which one

[SCHISCHKA]

10 minutes ago, BDunkz said:

Is it ok if I use 3 wd red 4tb drives but do I use raid and if so which one

how much storage do you need?

[BDunkz]

1 minute ago, SCHISCHKA said:

how much storage do you need?

Well that's what the guy recommended 

not much 4tb max

[BDunkz]

1 minute ago, BDunkz said:

Well that's what the guy recommended 

not much 4tb max

Or 8 of future 

[BDunkz]

Just now, BDunkz said:

Or 8 of future 

Other people have said don't run raid but I don't know 

[BDunkz]

43 minutes ago, domandric034 said:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Pentium G4560 3.5GHz Dual-Core Processor  ($66.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Motherboard: MSI - B250I GAMING PRO AC Mini ITX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($89.89 @ OutletPC) 
Memory: Crucial - Ballistix Sport LT 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($62.49 @ SuperBiiz) 
Storage: Western Digital - Red 4TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($135.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Storage: Western Digital - Red 4TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($135.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Storage: Western Digital - Red 4TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($135.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Case: Fractal Design - Node 304 Mini ITX Tower Case  ($84.90 @ OutletPC) 
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM 450W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($49.99 @ Amazon) 
Total: $762.23
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-06-09 06:12 EDT-0400

 

You don't need ECC memory for this kind of server. ECC memory use only mission critical servers and very very important workstations. Rock on that boiii FreeNAS or if you want Windows Server 2016 but throw in SSD and create RAID array in Storage Spaces.

This mobo only has 4 sata ports can I just get lag 1151 itx mobo with more ports?

[SCHISCHKA]

8 minutes ago, BDunkz said:

not much 4tb max

then get one 4TB WD black and one blue drives. Black for NAS and blue for backup.

Or buy 2X2TB black for RAID0 and one blue for backup. Back up drive doesnt need to be so expensive because it wont be used as much. I keep all my old drives and drives from busted laptops as backup.

[Jarsky]

53 minutes ago, BDunkz said:

A bronze psu? For a nas that will be going for most of the day.

Theres very little real world difference between a bronze and a gold PSU for a home NAS - you'll probably not be running it above 15% load 99% of the time, so the efficiency difference is negligible.

 

Theres also better options out there for running a NAS for home than FreeNAS. With FreeNAS you need to build the whole array at one time, its not flexible, and it has a lot of functions you probably don't need. You might want to consider looking at unRAID, Rockstor, OpenMediaVault, Ubuntu with MDADM, or even just Windows Storage Spaces.

[BDunkz]

22 minutes ago, SCHISCHKA said:

then get one 4TB WD black and one blue drives. Black for NAS and blue for backup.

Or buy 2X2TB black for RAID0 and one blue for backup. Back up drive doesnt need to be so expensive because it wont be used as much. I keep all my old drives and drives from busted laptops as backup.

How would I set that up?

[BDunkz]

Just now, BDunkz said:

How would I set that up?

The raid 0 +backup thing

[BDunkz]

10 minutes ago, Jarsky said:

Theres very little real world difference between a bronze and a gold PSU for a home NAS - you'll probably not be running it above 15% load 99% of the time, so the efficiency difference is negligible.

 

Theres also better options out there for running a NAS for home than FreeNAS. With FreeNAS you need to build the whole array at one time, its not flexible, and it has a lot of functions you probably don't need. You might want to consider looking at unRAID, Rockstor, OpenMediaVault, Ubuntu with MDADM, or even just Windows Storage Spaces.

Which would you Rp recommend all I want is user permission, local acsess and acsess from outer home and maybe a raid 0 + backup thingO

[BDunkz]

1 hour ago, BDunkz said:

How would I set that up?

Ok I sort of get it but I'm still unsure so:

do I get wd red drives 

do I use raid?

if so which one?

whitch os should I use?

[BDunkz]

2 hours ago, domandric034 said:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Pentium G4560 3.5GHz Dual-Core Processor  ($66.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Motherboard: MSI - B250I GAMING PRO AC Mini ITX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($89.89 @ OutletPC) 
Memory: Crucial - Ballistix Sport LT 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($62.49 @ SuperBiiz) 
Storage: Western Digital - Red 4TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($135.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Storage: Western Digital - Red 4TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($135.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Storage: Western Digital - Red 4TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($135.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Case: Fractal Design - Node 304 Mini ITX Tower Case  ($84.90 @ OutletPC) 
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM 450W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($49.99 @ Amazon) 
Total: $762.23
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-06-09 06:12 EDT-0400

 

You don't need ECC memory for this kind of server. ECC memory use only mission critical servers and very very important workstations. Rock on that boiii FreeNAS or if you want Windows Server 2016 but throw in SSD and create RAID array in Storage Spaces.

Ok I sort of get it but I'm still unsure so:

do I get wd red drives 

do I use raid?

if so which one?

whitch os should I use?

[Jarsky]

1 hour ago, BDunkz said:

Which would you Rp recommend all I want is user permission, local acsess and acsess from outer home and maybe a raid 0 + backup thingO

 

Honestly, I would just recommend getting one of these:

https://www.amazon.com/Synology-Station-Network-Attached-DS415play/dp/B00LO3KW7S

 

and create a 4-disk raid5, or a 3-disk raid5 + 1 backup disk.

 

Synology has a featured called QuickConnect for accessing it via the internet.

 

[BDunkz]

Just now, Jarsky said:

 

Honestly, I would just recommend getting one of these:

https://www.amazon.com/Synology-Station-Network-Attached-DS415play/dp/B00LO3KW7S

 

and create a 4-disk raid5, or a 3-disk raid5 + 1 backup disk.

 

Synology has a featured called QuickConnect for accessing it via the internet.

 

Which os?

[BDunkz]

Just now, BDunkz said:

Which os?

Olso I only have 3 drives

[BDunkz]

3 hours ago, Brayden9707 said:

Ok lets get some of the constraints.

 

What OS do what want to use? Would you be okay with a linux based OS?

How many drives would you be using?

3.5inch HDDs or 2.5inch HDDs?

Why the need for ECC memory? Will you be using a UPS?

Are you hoping to keep the machine on 24/7?

 

Any other requirements?

How much would a ups cost for my rig and the nas

also if it's runnng 24/7 what changes would have to be made?

[Jarsky]

2 minutes ago, BDunkz said:

Which os?

 

It uses a proprietary OS by Synology called DSM.

Synology is one of the leaders in consumer NAS appliances.

 

 

[BDunkz]

40 minutes ago, Jarsky said:

 

It uses a proprietary OS by Synology called DSM.

Synology is one of the leaders in consumer NAS appliances.

 

 

I'm sorry I don't understand does it work with freenas?

 

[BDunkz]

42 minutes ago, Jarsky said:

 

It uses a proprietary OS by Synology called DSM.

Synology is one of the leaders in consumer NAS appliances.

 

 

Sorry no I mis read no I'm looking to biuld a nas not buy one

 

[Jarsky]

Just now, BDunkz said:

I'm sorry I don't understand does it work with freenas?

 

 

I would recommend getting FreeNAS out of your mind - its not really suited for a low number of drives.

But no - FreeNAS is a FreeBSD (Unix based) operating system that is installed onto x86 (PC) hardware.

 

This is a full NAS - it includes all the hardware and its own software. Just plug drives in - open the webpage, and configure it how you want.

 

The only reason to really build a NAS, is if you want functionality beyond what a pre-built can deliver (though Synology DSM supports docker), or if you need expandability or to do advanced RAID. Neither of these things you can do with 3 drives and FreeNAS.

[BDunkz]

7 minutes ago, Jarsky said:

 

I would recommend getting FreeNAS out of your mind - its not really suited for a low number of drives.

But no - FreeNAS is a FreeBSD (Unix based) operating system that is installed onto x86 (PC) hardware.

 

This is a full NAS - it includes all the hardware and its own software. Just plug drives in - open the webpage, and configure it how you want.

 

The only reason to really build a NAS, is if you want functionality beyond what a pre-built can deliver (though Synology DSM supports docker), or if you need expandability or to do advanced RAID. Neither of these things you can do with 3 drives and FreeNAS.

I understand this howerver there are 2 reasons I have decided to biuld instead of buy 

1. It's genrely cheaper and it's easier to expand 

2. For me building pc's are fun and it gives me great satisfaction when my finished system works and does what I want it to do

 

[BDunkz]

I have decided hardware now all I need is help about:

how many drives (what tb)

what raid config

im looking at 3 wd red 4tb drives (not conpleatly sure)

what os

and weather or not a ups is possible on a budget (for my rig and nas)

Please help I'm going to bed now see you in the morning

[ProjectBox153]

29 minutes ago, Jarsky said:

 

I would recommend getting FreeNAS out of your mind - its not really suited for a low number of drives.

What does drive number have to do with anything? I have a FreeNAS system with 2 drives. I don't know why it's not a good, (generally, with some help) beginner friendly OS?

[BDunkz]

7 hours ago, Jamiec1130 said:

What does drive number have to do with anything? I have a FreeNAS system with 2 drives. I don't know why it's not a good, (generally, with some help) beginner friendly OS?

How many drives do you recommend and in what raid?