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1 minute ago, DrMacintosh said:

Law*

 

laptops*

 

no correlation there at all. 

Playing dumb to make the opposition look bad is a tactic.

 

You can't even look up laptop models correctly-how does that make you any more qualified to give advice than me?

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1 minute ago, DrMacintosh said:

Law*

 

laptops*

 

no correlation there at all. 

You're the only one that started a law debate because you're running out of arguments for your shilling.

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Just now, lilbman said:

Well hardy doo Imma buy that'

The new MacBooks actually sold very well. Making the buyers seem like idiots doesn't earn you any respect. 

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Just now, TheDankKoosh said:

You're the only one that started a law debate because you're running out of arguments for your shilling.

He was the first one to point out that he is a lawyer, not me. 

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1 minute ago, DrMacintosh said:

To be correct you would have had to have said something. All you did was make a joke about using Safari not Google even though you know that doesn't make any sense. 

 

And then once explained to you what happened you just let it breeze past you. 

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1 minute ago, DrMacintosh said:

He was the first one to point out that he is a lawyer, not me. 

Doesn't mean you have to go deeper into it.

 

Get baited

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Just now, DrMacintosh said:

The new MacBooks actually sold very well. Making the buyers seem like idiots doesn't earn you any respect. 

I'd actually call a large majority of people that bought the mbp idiots because they bought it for the brand and not the use case of it.

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1 minute ago, lilbman said:

You can't even look up laptop models correctly-how does that make you any more qualified to give advice than me?

I didn't look it up, I told you the OS did it for me and thats what showed up. I did it again and the correct results showed up. 

 

Maybe it was an error in my selection of text, but you seem to not care at all.

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Just now, DrMacintosh said:

I didn't look it up, I told you the OS did it for me and thats what showed up. I did it again and the correct results showed up. 

 

Maybe it was an error in my selection of text, but you seem to not care at all.

If the OS did it for you and failed miserably I'm not so sure you should be recommending it.

 

You're right, I really could care less.  It's the past. Don't dwell on it for sake of argument.  

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Just now, TheDankKoosh said:

brand

That brand has a track record. You don't flock to a brand unless its good. 

 

Just saying. You can call the masses fools, but there are reason why companies are and aren't popular. Being quality or marketing, the reason is irrelevant.

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Bottom line is, quit shilling products in a thread that has gotten completely off topic. The OP has chosen a superior laptop for his purposes and everything needs to calm down.

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Just now, TheDankKoosh said:

Bottom line is, quit shilling products in a thread that has gotten completely off topic. The OP has chosen a superior laptop for his purposes and everything needs to calm down.

I would gladly calm down, but you two seem committed on going ham. 

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Just now, DrMacintosh said:

I would gladly calm down, but you two seem committed on going ham. 

I'm only asking you to quit suggesting a factually inferior product for the OP's use case. 

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Mobo: Gigabyte x99 UD3P

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GPU: EVGA RTX 2060 Super 

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7 minutes ago, DrMacintosh said:

Your information conflicts with the advertised speeds on Apple Website of 3.8 GHz for the best model available. 

The rated spec for the highest end CPU on the Macbook line up is currently the 6920HQ which is rated at a frequency range of 2.9-3.8ghz. Now this 3.8ghz is only for SINGLE CORE turbo. 3.8ghz is NOT a rated turbo spec for all 4 cores. As highlighted in the NBC info above, the rated 4 core turbo speed should be 3.4ghz at base. The Macbook is not hitting that.

 

To make matters worse, the 6920HQ has unlocked turbo bins to OC up to +600mhz providing turbos allow to hit 4.0ghz (this information needs to be dug the fuck up because only users with 6920HQ's can provide is as the upper limit of turbo bins are not shown anywhere else). So we have a machine in optimal condition should be running up to 4.0ghz but is staying at 3.1ghz. The same max rated turbo speed of the 6700HQ. 

 

1 minute ago, DrMacintosh said:

Then I see 0 problems here. 

But it's rated for a 4-core speed of 3.4 which it is failing. 

 

4 minutes ago, DrMacintosh said:

fan profile is optimized for silence not cooling. 

whici is my whole point. the entire macbook series aren't built for high performance. 

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3 minutes ago, DrMacintosh said:

The new MacBooks actually sold very well. Making the buyers seem like idiots doesn't earn you any respect. 

Apple could sell a dog turd and call it the tech marvel of the century and every teenager and their mother would buy one.  The fact that they sold well only reinforces the idea that people that buy Apple products don't really look into what they're buying.  They just buy it.

 

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Just now, Pendragon said:

the entire macbook series aren't built for high performance. 

compared to other systems no. 

 

Apple makes sacrifices to persevere battery life and keep a thin and light form factor. And I'm ok with that. 

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2 minutes ago, DrMacintosh said:

That brand has a track record. You don't flock to a brand unless its good. 

 

Just saying. You can call the masses fools, but there are reason why companies are and aren't popular. Being quality or marketing, the reason is irrelevant.

Then explain Beats.

 

2 minutes ago, DrMacintosh said:

I would gladly calm down, but you two seem committed on going ham. 

I'm not even going hard .-.

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1 minute ago, lilbman said:

Apple could sell a dog turd and call it the tech marvel of the century and every teenager and their mother would buy one.

Thats a logical fallacy and you know it. 

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2 minutes ago, lilbman said:

Then explain Beats

The brand is associated with a good artist and the sound quality is not so bad that people don't like them to some degree. 

 

Marketing

 

But again it doesn't matter how a product is popular, what matters is some products are and some aren't. 

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As OP, I feel obligated to step in. I think this topic has reached an end, there is no point in arguing for the sake of argue. I will now consider the AERO 15 from Gigabyte, but just so that everyone is pleased I will look into comparing the Mac and AERO . I like macs, (it's like a guilty pleasure), the OS is nice, and it just works. I know the performance difference and that is why I want to look into other windows options. Thanks to everyone for taking their time to comment and give their opinion, it's greatly appreciated.  

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Just now, SnipingPandaz said:

AERO 15 from Gigabyte

An excellent choice. 

 

Please lock the thread. 

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2 minutes ago, SnipingPandaz said:

As OP, I feel obligated to step in. I think this topic has reached an end, there is no point in arguing for the sake of argue. I will now consider the AERO 15 from Gigabyte, but just so that everyone is pleased I will look into comparing the Mac and AERO . I like macs, (it's like a guilty pleasure), the OS is nice, and it just works. I know the performance difference and that is why I want to look into other windows options. Thanks to everyone for taking their time to comment and give their opinion, it's greatly appreciated.  

No problem man, sorry this went out of proportion.

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Cooler: Corsair H150i AIO

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GPU: EVGA XC3 RTX 3080 (+120 core +950 mem 90% PL)

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PSU: Fractal ION Plus 760w Platinum  

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GPU: EVGA RTX 2060 Super 

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Just now, DrMacintosh said:

Thats a logical fallacy and you know it. 

Not entirely.

 

Take the Beats line, for example.  Those of us who are even REMOTELY tech-savvy know that you could probably get similar sound quality from earbuds you can buy by the hundreds from China.  To me, that's sad.  Its sad because the consumer is not informed enough to know that Beats really aren't that good sounding, and Apple capitalizes SO HARD on it.  For example, Beats Studio headphones are the last thing you would want to use in a real studio, but people think that because it has Studio in the name that it must be good.

 

Back to the dog turd.  Apple called shit headphones 'Beats Studios', I'm sure they could get away with calling animal feces 'the tech marvel of the century' and it will sell.

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3 minutes ago, SnipingPandaz said:

As OP, I feel obligated to step in. I think this topic has reached an end, there is no point in arguing for the sake of argue. I will now consider the AERO 15 from Gigabyte, but just so that everyone is pleased I will look into comparing the Mac and AERO . I like macs, (it's like a guilty pleasure), the OS is nice, and it just works. I know the performance difference and that is why I want to look into other windows options. Thanks to everyone for taking their time to comment and give their opinion, it's greatly appreciated.  

Hope you get the product you feel fit for your needs!  I apologize if I seemed rough, I was just correcting someone that was recommending an inferior product to you.  It was a moral obligation.

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Just now, lilbman said:

I'm sure they could get away with calling animal feces 'the tech marvel of the century' and it will sell.

You have a personal agenda against Apple. I am pro Apple but they are not perfect. 

 

I would expect more from a lawyer.

 

OP please end the thread. 

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