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Pixel-morphing technology can improve display resolutions by 200%

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http://www.techspot.com/news/69516-pixel-morphing-technology-can-improve-display-resolutions-200.html

 

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Researchers at the University of Central Florida have come up with a technique to squeeze three times the resolution out of a standard LCD monitor. According to the research, which was published in Nature Communications, the technology alters the way that voltage is sent through the display.

Sounds awesome, though i honestly don't think any manufacturer is gonna apply this to their current products, probably we'll start seeing "12k" monitors or something crazy like that sometime soon though(if i understood the article correctly lol)

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Nice, but I could see it just being another one of those techs that never get implemented.


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Cool, cant wait for my 12k smartphone. Jk, I barely notice the difference from 720p to 1440p on a 5" device :P


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A 12k 32" monitor would be nice, I don't think we'll see something like that in the near future though. :/


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Yes but we need GPUs to run 12K


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1 minute ago, Accursed Entity said:

A 12k 32" monitor would be nice, I don't think we'll see something like that in the near future though. :/

Will take ages to the mainstream market to have a GPU to play games at 12K, and the video file sizes for 12K H265 are going to be huge. I dont see why we should migrate to 12K, since we barely notice the difference from 1080p to 4K in videos anyway (Of course in Games its way easier to notice).

I think we should improve overall quality, with HDR and etc, not just increase resolution.


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37 minutes ago, RuLeZ said:

 I dont see why we should migrate to 12K, since we barely notice the difference from 1080p to 4K in videos anyway (Of course in Games its way easier to notice).

 

What? The difference is night and day for me.


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2 minutes ago, sazrocks said:

What? The difference is night and day for me.

I have to agree with @RuLeZ.  We have some 4k videos running as a demo on one of the computers at my work, and when we switched from a 1080p monitor to a 4k monitor, I honestly couldn't tell the difference.

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its pointless without 200% increased resolution content streaming and recordings, and more powerfull gpu's to render games, maybe we will see this used in 2030 when it will make sense, 4k/8k will be norm for a decade+ unless some other major breaktrough happens in processing power tech

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I don't see where it is going. Marketing wise, i can only see "4k is the past, now is the time for 12k !". But on the consumer side of things, I don't get it, is there a practical difference going from 4k ? Even for professionals ?
The only thing I can imagine in my weak brains is perhaps for cinemas, or for some these entertainment parks that feature 360° immersion attractions with screens.
Otherwise, I don't see it being a commercial success before... at least when HL3 gets released.

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1 hour ago, sazrocks said:

What? The difference is night and day for me.

The shift normally has more to do with color space and image quality than the actual increase in the resolution. 

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19 minutes ago, Thiback said:

I don't see where it is going. Marketing wise, i can only see "4k is the past, now is the time for 12k !". But on the consumer side of things, I don't get it, is there a practical difference going from 4k ? Even for professionals ?
The only thing I can imagine in my weak brains is perhaps for cinemas, or for some these entertainment parks that feature 360° immersion attractions with screens.
Otherwise, I don't see it being a commercial success before... at least when HL3 gets released.

There's use for above 1080p above 30 inches, just given pixel size.  But as we've mostly been in the process of skipping from 1080p to 4K, there is some uplift in certain situations. (A lot of it just comes down to people buying better quality panels when they shift up.)   If you put them side by side, you'll see the difference, though a lot of it comes down to how you perceive the colors and contrasts. It also makes sharper edges and smoother gradients. 

 

But we're at the end point for those types of upgrades. That's why the high refresh monitors have started becoming really common.  You get a lot more uplift from that.

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I agree that this is irrelevant imeediately for many reasons. But at the same time, if we are going to ever have higher resolutions, this kind of breakthrough will be needed at some point. Yes, it doesn't make sense to increase screen resolution and drive it with your iGPU, but it also doesn't make sense to keep pushing Titan Xpppppp SLI for 1080p.

It also doesn't matter if we would like other dimensions (like color accuracy) to improve as well - it's not like there is one scientist in the world and he has to choose between this research and everything else...

 

In other words: all the pieces have to gradually appear for us to have better image quality in the future.

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2 hours ago, BuckGup said:

Yes but we need GPUs to run 12K

They can probably do that just fine, just not when gaming recent titles.

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Just now, Pheelo said:

They can probably do that just fine, just not when gaming recent titles.

We don't have the cables to support that amount of band width though


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1 minute ago, BuckGup said:

We don't have the cables to support that amount of band width though

Dual displayport?

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1 minute ago, Pheelo said:

Dual displayport?

not even close


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1 minute ago, Pheelo said:

They support 8k 60hz, Im sure dual could produce 12k 30hz :)

Nah


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47 minutes ago, Pheelo said:

Why not? If it scales linearly it should work just fine.

7680×4320 = 33M+ pixels

11520x6480 = 74M+ pixels, its more than double the 8K.

 

PS: For comparation, 1080p =2M+ and 4K = 8M+

 


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2 minutes ago, RuLeZ said:

7680×4320 = 33M+ pixels

11520x6480 = 74M+ pixels, its more than double the 8K.

 

Yeah, thats where lowering to 30hz instead of 60hz comes in :)
By your math even 45hz should be possible. That would be amazing!

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1 minute ago, Pheelo said:

Yeah, thats where lowering to 30hz instead of 60hz comes in :)
By your math even 45hz should be possible. That would be amazing!

I believe that displayport can only transmit 8K 60HZ with some extra lossy compression.


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1 minute ago, RuLeZ said:

I believe that displayport can only transmit 8K 60HZ with some extra lossy compression.

 

58 minutes ago, Pheelo said:

Dual displayport?

 

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