ddr3-1600 oc to 2133

[cowpker4life]

so what are normal timings for ddr3 that is oc to 2133 from 1600. the base timings for my ram is 9-9-9-24 @1600mhz  im running 12-12-12-28@2133  the mobo is a msi 970 gaming and the cpu is a fx 8320. never played around to much with ram timings or anything so just looking for some infomation.

[-rascal-]

6 minutes ago, cowpker4life said:

so what are normal timings for ddr3 that is oc to 2133 from 1600. the base timings for my ram is 9-9-9-24 @1600mhz  im running 12-12-12-28@2133  the mobo is a msi 970 gaming and the cpu is a fx 8320. never played around to much with ram timings or anything so just looking for some infomation.

Most DDR3 2133 MHz memory kits with XMP support usually have CAS 9 / 10 latencies, with a few lower priced ones using CAS 11.

 

The older G.Skill RipJawsX kit I have (in my now dormant FX-8350 system) is rated at 11-11-11-30.

 

Since you overclocked to 2133 MHz manually, you will need to go by trail-and-error to find the most optimal timings for your specific kit.

[themctipers]

overclocked (as in stock speeds are 1600) or overclocked (as in all ram thats not 1600mhz is overclocked)

 

otherwise you're lucky you got 2133mhz on a 1600mhz kit  it has pretty high timings for DDR3 but killer timings for DDR4 lol 

[cowpker4life]

1 minute ago, themctipers said:

overclocked (as in stock speeds are 1600) or overclocked (as in all ram thats not 1600mhz is overclocked)

 

otherwise you're lucky you got 2133mhz on a 1600mhz kit  it has pretty high timings for DDR3 but killer timings for DDR4 lol 

The kit it self is 1600mhz. 

[themctipers]

Just now, cowpker4life said:

The kit it self is 1600mhz. 

well you got very lucky  

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CAS12 is I think the highest CAS level for DDR3, but it works. I don't recommend going back to 1600mhz just to get that nice CAS9 number. DDR3 2133Mhz kits now are usually CAS9/10. 

[cowpker4life]

1 minute ago, themctipers said:

well you got very lucky  

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CAS12 is I think the highest CAS level for DDR3, but it works. I don't recommend going back to 1600mhz just to get that nice CAS9 number. DDR3 2133Mhz kits now are usually CAS9/10. 

Well I don't know really if it's stable or not. It booted but had some Web pages crash along with a game so questioning the timings now

[cowpker4life]

Also you can hit case 14 with ddr3 or the choice is there at least

 

[themctipers]

Just now, cowpker4life said:

Well I don't know really if it's stable or not. It booted but had some Web pages crash along with a game so questioning the timings now

you don't question the timings, you question the frequency of the RAM since you manually overclocked it.

Try going to a lower speed with the same CAS level, and if it's stable then lower the CAS, unstable then turn it up and if stable keep trying to lower it

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event viewer, see if the crashing is related to the RAM.

Just now, cowpker4life said:

Also you can hit case 14 with ddr3 or the choice is there at least

 

I don't think you can hit CAS14 with DDR3.  

[cowpker4life]

2 minutes ago, themctipers said:

you don't question the timings, you question the frequency of the RAM since you manually overclocked it.

Try going to a lower speed with the same CAS level, and if it's stable then lower the CAS, unstable then turn it up and if stable keep trying to lower it

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event viewer, see if the crashing is related to the RAM.

I don't think you can hit CAS14 with DDR3.  

Increasing voltage should help with ocING it as well right? Ddr3 can get to 1.6v or so right? Also in the bios it has a option for cas14 I'll take a picture of it after I reboot

[cowpker4life]

[RadiatingLight]

CAS 12 at 2133 is the same latency as cas 9 at 1600

DDR3 can take a lot, as @MageTank taught me. go up until you hit a wall with your latency and clockspeed.

[cowpker4life]

3 minutes ago, RadiatingLight said:

CAS 12 at 2133 is the same latency as cas 9 at 1600

DDR3 can take a lot, as @MageTank taught me. go up until you hit a wall with your latency and clockspeed.

How far to push the voltages and what is a free program to test if it's stable?

[WereCat]

25 minutes ago, cowpker4life said:

Well I don't know really if it's stable or not. It booted but had some Web pages crash along with a game so questioning the timings now

Doesn't seem stable at all.

Test with Memtest86, there must be no errors.

30 minutes ago, themctipers said:

overclocked (as in stock speeds are 1600) or overclocked (as in all ram thats not 1600mhz is overclocked)

 

otherwise you're lucky you got 2133mhz on a 1600mhz kit  it has pretty high timings for DDR3 but killer timings for DDR4 lol 

Ha, got 2200MHz 10-11-11-30-CR2 from my 1600MHz 9-9-9-24-CR1 kit, I haven't tinkered with secondary and tercial timings yet.

I can boot at 2400MHz but it is not stable.

[themctipers]

4 minutes ago, WereCat said:

Doesn't seem stable at all.

Test with Memtest86, there must be no errors.

Ha, got 2200MHz 10-11-11-30-CR2 from my 1600MHz 9-9-9-24-CR1 kit, I haven't tinkered with secondary and tercial timings yet.

I can boot at 2400MHz but it is not stable.

have to underclock to 1066mhz to even get my kit of 1600mhz ram working properly with no errors.

[cowpker4life]

3 minutes ago, WereCat said:

Doesn't seem stable at all.

Test with Memtest86, there must be no errors.

Ha, got 2200MHz 10-11-11-30-CR2 from my 1600MHz 9-9-9-24-CR1 kit, I haven't tinkered with secondary and tercial timings yet.

I can boot at 2400MHz but it is not stable.

Dose it matter If it's the usb or cd for downloding it? Don't see the exebly in the unzipped usb files. I have imageUSB as the application but don't see what to do with it

[WereCat]

1 minute ago, themctipers said:

have to underclock to 1066mhz to even get my kit of 1600mhz ram working properly with no errors.

Damn, I feel you

1 minute ago, cowpker4life said:

Dose it matter If it's the usb or cd for downloding it? Don't see the exebly in the unzipped usb files. I have imageUSB as the application but don't see what to do with it

TBH, I am not sure. I always just used their tool installer to make bootable USB and used that.

[cowpker4life]

Windows memory dianistic should work shouldn't it to check if it's stable?

[WereCat]

1 minute ago, cowpker4life said:

Windows memory dianistic should work shouldn't it to check if it's stable?

You can use that, sure. It just isn't as good as Memtest86

[cowpker4life]

1 minute ago, WereCat said:

You can use that, sure. It just isn't as good as Memtest86

Ok well dont really understand how to use Memtest86 lol so going use the windows one..is 1866 with 12 12 12 28 faster then 1600 at 9 9 9 24? Or would it be slower. Also how much dose more voltage help for stability and how far should ddr3 be pushed to for 24/7 use

[WereCat]

2 minutes ago, cowpker4life said:

Ok well dont really understand how to use Memtest86 lol so going use the windows one..is 1866 with 12 12 12 28 faster then 1600 at 9 9 9 24? Or would it be slower. Also how much dose more voltage help for stability and how far should ddr3 be pushed to for 24/7 use

I recommend this guide

 

CL12 at 1866MHz is way worse than CL9 at 1600MHz

[cowpker4life]

1 minute ago, WereCat said:

I recommend this guide

 

CL12 at 1866MHz is way worse than CL9 at 1600MHz

Ok. Well it passed so ig time to tighten the timings just don't like having to clear cmos as its kinda a bitch to do. Also

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