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Drugs Kill

yathis
By yathis
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Look at Chris Cornell, awesome guitarist and linguist. I bet he was on some illegal drugs. What do you guys think he was popping?

Robin Williams was on legal drugs for depression.

Phillip Hoffman was doing heroin.

Rogers Nelson was doing illegals oppeoids.

Chris Farley total addict.

 

 

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Robin Williams was not on legal drugs for most of his life. He suffered from a major addiction to about everything. I will agree drugs kill. Might not be from the drug itself in an overdose but the actions from it. Whether it be from you or others that end up killing yourself

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Dont matter if they are legal or not, they kill.

 

OTC Sleepers and a little too much booze, perhaps choke on your own vomit and die like a rock star.

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12 minutes ago, yathis said:

Dont matter if they are legal or not, they kill.

 

OTC Sleepers and a little too much booze, perhaps choke on your own vomit and die like a rock star.

Usually legalo drugs go through testing so the short term effects are safe. I'm sure years of cocaine isn't safe. 

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True SRV died in a plane crash. Not his fault though.

 

Trying to think of great people who died from lack of self control who were 100% sober. Can never really know for sure anywho so.

 

Oh oh oh Fast & Furious fuckhead, speeding lambo, was he sober?

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18 minutes ago, yathis said:

Robin Williams was on legal drugs for depression.

Maybe it was the DEPRESSION that killed him?  What with him having hanged himself after all...?  Just a wild, radical theory of mine however.  I must admit that there is currently no scientific basis that depression correlates with an increased rate of suicide after all, it's really just my gut instinct speaking here.

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43 minutes ago, yathis said:

True SRV died in a plane crash. Not his fault though.

 

Trying to think of great people who died from lack of self control who were 100% sober. Can never really know for sure anywho so.

 

Oh oh oh Fast & Furious fuckhead, speeding lambo, was he sober?

If you're talking about Paul Walker, it was a Porsche 911 GT, and he wasn't driving - a buddy of his was driving and police concluded that the driver was speeding and lost control of the car.

 

Whether Paul egged him on or not is 100% speculative, but he was definitely not at direct fault.

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You seem to be doing a lot of speculation here.

According to his friends and family, Chris Cornell was clean of illegal drugs at the time of his suicide. Whether or not his legal drug use lead to him hanging himself is not known. So all you're doing is speculating. 

Robin Williams was a major drug addict throughout his life, but my best guess is that the depression made him kill himself, not the drugs he was taking for the depression.

And Paul Walker died in a car crash caused by someone else. Whether or not he was doing any drugs is irrelvant to his death. 

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Not to be a spoilsport. Yes drugs kill you, or fasten the process but Life is as deadly. The mortality rate due to living is 100%.

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legal ones are safe if you don't misuse them and turn that misuse into abuse.

 

When I broke my ankle last year I was prescribed Vicodin (Acetaminophen / Hydrocodone) from the Hospital and Percocet (Acetaminophen / Oxycodone) from the orthopedist post surgery. I followed the dosage and didn't have any issues. Granted two things. I was prescribed to a small amount/small dosage to prevent addiction but that's the point follow what you're prescribed and if the pain is intolerable ask the doctor for pain management or if there is other pain relievers you could take. Instead of risking increasing dependency and leading to addiction.

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legal ones are safe if you don't misuse them and turn that misuse into abuse.

 

When I broke my ankle last year I was prescribed Vicodin (Acetaminophen / Hydrocodone) from the Hospital and Percocet (Acetaminophen / Oxycodone) from the orthopedist post surgery. I followed the dosage and didn't have any issues. Granted two things. I was prescribed to a small amount/small dosage to prevent addiction but that's the point follow what you're prescribed and if the pain is intolerable ask the doctor for pain management or if there is other pain relievers you could take. Instead of risking increasing dependency and leading to addiction.

Hell to add on to this, illegal ones particularly cannabis/marijuana does not kill people at worst, it's about the same at smoking a cigarette at best it may counter its carcinogens with the CBD (the medicinal use of cannabis) THC is the mind altering portion.

 

This is not to say that meth, crack/cocaine, etc. don't kill either. They do kill.

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About smoking cigarettes =P If you live in a bigger city like me (Hamburg), taking a deep breath while waiting for the bus is more bad than a packet of cigarettes.

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About smoking cigarettes =P If you live in a bigger city like me (Hamburg), taking a deep breath while waiting for the bus is more bad than a packet of cigarettes.

Idk not a fan of smokers because the smoke smells terrible and they often do too. 

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The human brain fundamentally runs on drugs, or all the things that drugs cause the greater release of in a brain, so if drugs simply killed, then everybody would be dead.

 

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Isn't it more that some drugs are pretty much harmless (eg. canabis) but get laced with bad batches of heroin, crocodile (no idea how it's written) or fentanyl and that's what people overdose on? I mean I don't doubt that too much  'weed' isn't good for your health either but that's what I've always heard.

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6 hours ago, yathis said:

Look at Chris Cornell, awesome guitarist and linguist. I bet he was on some illegal drugs. What do you guys think he was popping?

Robin Williams was on legal drugs for depression.

Phillip Hoffman was doing heroin.

Rogers Nelson was doing illegals oppeoids.

Chris Farley total addict.

 

 

1. mental illness causes drug use

2. mental illness causes suicide

3. drug use does not cause suicide, drugs do not program you to kill yourself. There are some nutter ones that are not your traditional opiate where they cut drugs with random chemicals; this stuff will slowly kill you.

4. drugs may cause you to crash a vehicle

5. the only other time iv seen someone irrationally link all drugs to bad things is in Scientology youtube videos.

6. I tried drugs when i was younger. Im not homeless, addicted, or dead; but then i dont have a mental illness either

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16 minutes ago, aGl1tch said:

Isn't it more that some drugs are pretty much harmless (eg. canabis) but get laced with bad batches of heroin, crocodile (no idea how it's written) or fentanyl and that's what people overdose on? I mean I don't doubt that too much  'weed' isn't good for your health either but that's what I've always heard.

The massive increase in the previous few years of people overdosing on opioids such as fentanyl, carfentanil, and W-18, which are are 100 to 1000 times stronger than safer alternatives such as heroin, oxycodone, and morphine, is largely due to restrictions on prescriptions for safer opioids, and ideology-driven doctor prescription behaviours.

 

Doctors don't know anything about pain, and they're often the people who believed government propaganda and had it ingrained into them. Consequently, a lot of people who suffer severe pain cannot find compassionate care from a doctor, and many of those people end up buying substances on the black market, without knowing the purity or exact mixture of what they're taking. For some opioids, the amount that will cause a person to OD can be as small as a grain of salt. So, not only does a black market buyer not know how much actual drug they have, or even which drugs there might be in what they've bought, but they also don't know how evenly the drug they've bought has been mixed into its buffer agent. That situation of risk is one created by drug prohibition and hardline prescribing regulations.

 

That isn't an argument against drugs, it's an argument against drug prohibition. Humanity will never be free from drug use in society because the human brain is itself a drug bath, and when people take drugs, they're usually manipulating pre-existing chemicals within their brain to experience certain of them more. And people are often drawn to do this because the state of their brain is deficient in some of those chemicals. There are many people who have never touched a criminalized drug in their lives, who are 24/7 more "high" than many "addicts" are after they take a line of cocaine, because a massive increase in dopamine availability within a brain is cocaine's effect, while the human brain uses dopamine to process information, with things like depression, anxiety, psychosis, and a lot of other dispositions involve a lack of dopamine to deal with the amount of information that a brain is trying to process.

 

Contemporary medical doctrine is a long way off from being about the truth. It is more about keeping people away from enjoyable substances out of ideology, fear, and also because it is more profitable to provide a little or placebo treatment to people perpetually than it is to allow them access to a full cure.

 

 

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The relative dangers of drugs: What the science says

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If all other things are equal, a person who drinks alcohol is doing more damage to their health and at greater risk of developing habitual usage than users of any other drug.

 

 

Also, look compare this article excerpt:

 

"In patients with schizophrenia, a variation in a single position in the DNA sequence marks synapses for removal and that pruning goes out of control. The result is an abnormal loss of gray matter."

http://news.nationalpost.com/health/im-almost-giddy-scientists-open-the-black-box-of-schizophrenia-with-dramatic-genetic-finding

 

... to these:


"Mice Fed with Cocaine Show Growth in Brain Areas Linked with Learning, Memory"

http://www.natureworldnews.com/articles/3657/20130826/mice-fed-cocaine-show-growth-brain-areas-linked-learning-memory.htm
 

Cocaine enhances memory storage in mice

http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007%2FBF00589905#page-1

 

Cocaine self-administration improves performance in a highly demanding water maze task.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17641875

 

 

There is a lot of fake news campaigns out there these days (and probably was the days before in which people just presumed otherwise), but one of the most vile and long-running fake news story is that of anti-drug ideology. Things haven't changed all that much since Reefer Madness. The lies have simply been made to appear more technical and institutionally-sponsored.

 

 

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12 hours ago, Fooshi said:

So does speed, electricity, fire and heights. 

Neither Heights or falling kill a person.

It's that sudden stop at the end that does it.

 

6 hours ago, wcreek said:

Hell to add on to this, illegal ones particularly cannabis/marijuana does not kill people at worst, it's about the same at smoking a cigarette at best it may counter its carcinogens with the CBD (the medicinal use of cannabis) THC is the mind altering portion.

 

This is not to say that meth, crack/cocaine, etc. don't kill either. They do kill.

This isn't entirely true.

 

While it is damn near impossible to accidentally overdose on MJ/Cannabis; deaths do still occur. Specifically they occur from having impaired judgement as a result of using MJ; similar to the way drunk people have died from having impaired judgment.

 

Also CBDs have not been proven to fight or cure cancer.  There have been SOME studies that indicate CBDs may have cancer fighting properties, but there have also been studies that show no effect as well.   Overall more research does need to be done to reach a definitive decision. There is one type of CBD that has shown some ability to help with pain management without causing any impairment or addiction.  researchers are looking into it as a possible alternative to opioid pain killers.

 

Lastly Synthetic MJ can, and has, killed people from overdosing.  I am only adding this because while synthetic isn't the real thing; people do switch from real MJ to synthetic in order to obtain a high while also being able to pass a drug test.  Though testing companies are getting pretty good at creating new tests when a new synthetic MJ variant becomes popular. 

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8 hours ago, Delicieuxz said:

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*confused if you're specifically answering to me here

I didn't mean to say that all drugs are bad at all. I even think that 'lighter' stuff like canabis should be legalized to make sure people don't have to get it from some shady back alley dealer who puts god-knows-what in there. But some like crocodil/crack would be better off banned (even though I don't know how many people would use that stuff over legalized mj, except those who are already addicts)

But that's just my opinion. Frankly I'm not really all that informed when it comes to this drug stuff but I think that, as long as the substance is 'safe' (as safe as alcohol etc.) it should be legalized, taxed and regulated. (yes I watch Secular Talk.)

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most people start with legal drugs which are often worse then get addicted to what their dealer gives them which may be heroin but not pure often with other drugs added in that are more potent. 

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15 hours ago, yathis said:

Look at Chris Cornell, awesome guitarist and linguist. I bet he was on some illegal drugs. What do you guys think he was popping?

Robin Williams was on legal drugs for depression.

Phillip Hoffman was doing heroin.

Rogers Nelson was doing illegals oppeoids.

Chris Farley total addict.

 

 

Guess what? Everything kills you. From the second you are born you are already heading towards death. You can only live one day at a time. 

 

Yes. Drugs are bad, mmmkay. But think of all the comedy and music you would not have had without the drugs and depression. Unfortunately it's a part of life. 

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The sad fact is

You - "Oh I feel kinda sad"

Doctor - "Here is a pill"

 

Look I got no ill feelings towards fentanyl OD's I just dont see the big fuss over it really. I laughed when a PSA stated there was 50 deaths and its a public crisis, but yet they let other things slide.

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