UK For A Government Controlled Internet - Theresa May

[mark_cameron]

2 minutes ago, bob345 said:

Plenty of people said the same thing about brexit and donald trump and look what happened.

Donald Trump, happened.

[tlink]

4 hours ago, rrubberr said:

Because it's the highest form of degeneracy?

 

OF course, without so much as a constitution, you all are in for quite the whirl.

a constitution is worthless, if the government does something its citizens disagree with than the citizens protest peacefully or violently until they listen, maybe even overthrow the government regardless of constitution or not. constitutions can easily be changed by a government, laws are only hold up by moral idea that we should follow them. the same goes for a constitution. its like saying that money isn't fake value.

[Prysin]

On 2017-5-19 at 9:56 PM, Misanthrope said:

So they basically want to make their own damn internet but without blackjack and hookers?

or mean words. or discussions. or opposite views. or games they dont like. or people they dont like.

 

If the west keeps going like this, China will have less censorship then the "glorious progressive western world"

[suicidalfranco]

1 hour ago, Prysin said:

or mean words. or discussions. or opposite views. or games they dont like. or people they dont like.

 

If the west keeps going like this, China will have less censorship then the "glorious progressive western world"

 PROGRESS!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3060664/Parents-ban-children-joining-primary-school-religious-education-trip-mosque-safety-fears.html

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2017/jan/02/book-explaining-gender-diversity-to-primary-school-children-sparks-furore

 

The future is bright

[abazigal]

When the medicine is worse than the ailment...

 

I am reminded of an article I read some time back. While not entirely relevant, it does raise some interesting points to mull over. 

 

https://stratechery.com/2016/fake-news/

 

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In truth, though, you and I know that few users will bother. And that, seemingly, is what bothers many of Facebook’s critics the most. If users won’t seek out the “right” news sources, well, then someone ought to make them see them. It all sounds great — and, without question, a far more convenient solution to winning elections than actually making the changes necessary to do so — until you remember that that someone you just entrusted with such awesome power could disagree with you, and that the very notion of controlling what people read is the hallmark of totalitarianism.

 

[suits]

Wow UK has it bad. The liberal party is stripping them of rights and destroy the country. The Conservative party is stripping them of rights and destroy the country. They are in a no-win situation. 

[Bcat00]

lol, they are simply going down the same route as China AND WE KNOW HOW THAT TURNED OUT!!!! 

[vorticalbox]

2 hours ago, Bcat00 said:

lol, they are simply going down the same route as China AND WE KNOW HOW THAT TURNED OUT!!!! 

[Prysin]

10 hours ago, suits said:

Wow UK has it bad. The liberal party is stripping them of rights and destroy the country. The Conservative party is stripping them of rights and destroy the country. They are in a no-win situation. 

you mean neo-cons... they arent conservative per say. They are liberally-conservative globalists

[shermantanker]

On 5/19/2017 at 1:10 PM, ivan134 said:

Good old right wing personal freedom

meanwhile the "right wing" in america is trying to remove government regulation of the internet.

[IceCold008]

My Middle Finger is hard at work on all parties. Bunch of old gits.

[SeriouslyMikey]

It's a crying shame that the Tories want this. It's pushing into serious Orwellian territories without any thought of the very real and very serious consequences. We're already close, if not have, a police state, so why not have one online, eh? Best get myself a VPN. Looks like LTT's sponsorship of Tunnel Bear has gained a new customer. 

Even so, I shall still be voting for the Tories as the alternative is pure cancer, and I am voting based mainly on the strength we need for Brexit negotiations. 

 

Conservatives my arse. A shell of what they used to be. Less government? Nah! Let's regulate everything and everyone! 

Spoiler

 

[Teddy07]

Internet regulations are getting tighter here in Germany too because of our SJW president Merkel

[ivan134]

44 minutes ago, shermantanker said:

meanwhile the "right wing" in america is trying to remove government regulation of the internet.

Hah. Good one. Laugh.

[ivan134]

On ‎5‎/‎20‎/‎2017 at 4:50 PM, Prysin said:

or mean words. or discussions. or opposite views. or games they dont like. or people they dont like.

 

If the west keeps going like this, China will have less censorship then the "glorious progressive western world"

Man your posts always make me laugh. TIL progressives are in control in UK.

[SeriouslyMikey]

13 minutes ago, ivan134 said:

Man your posts always make me laugh. TIL progressives are in control in UK.

They've been in control, or getting more control for decades. The whole education system is run by "progressives" and has been for longer than I've been alive. And I'd say, especially the latter has been the case for most the western world too. It's one of the main reasons in the rise of the current selfish, childish generation. 

[ivan134]

21 minutes ago, SeriouslyMikey said:

They've been in control, or getting more control for decades. The whole education system is run by "progressives" and has been for longer than I've been alive. And I'd say, especially the latter has been the case for most the western world too. It's one of the main reasons in the rise of the current selfish, childish generation. 

Ahah. Ahahahhahahahahaha. Ahah. Man. This has been a good morning.

[Prysin]

1 hour ago, ivan134 said:

Man your posts always make me laugh. TIL progressives are in control in UK.

aint anyone in the west that is properly conservative or right wing, short of actual neo-nazis and white supremacists. 

 

Go look at Theresa May, "conservative"... she aint conservative, she is centre-right at best.

[Prysin]

1 hour ago, Kumaresh said:

I can see the extremely "productive" conversation going on with "insightful" comments by an "intellectual". If those idiots running the government are so concerned about the security of UK citizens, they should have worked faster to conduct some PROPER VETTING of the people they let inside. I remember seeing a journalist ( I think it was Tommy Robinson ) covering a terrorist attack and mentioning that tens of thousands of individuals within the UK had accessed a terrorist manual published by ISIS. It's a bit late to be thinking of brexit when the problem has already settled down here. No point in closing the gates after the horse has bolted ( In this case, the direction of travel is flipped ).

 

its easier to search contain then screen. Governments are always most efficient when they are regulating and monitoring, rather then prohibiting or removing.

 

The whole point of Brexit is the drastically regulate and reduce the rate they come in.... You can NEVER, even in a total police state, stop lone radical attackers. Even if common people were reduced to only use plastic knives and forks, so what?! i could go on explaining several ways on how to kill multiple people even without bombs, chemicals, metal knives, blundt objects etc... but that would probably get me banned, so ill refrain from doing so.

[ivan134]

23 minutes ago, Prysin said:

aint anyone in the west that is properly conservative or right wing, short of actual neo-nazis and white supremacists. 

 

Go look at Theresa May, "conservative"... she aint conservative, she is centre-right at best.

Calling neo Nazis right wing and not socialist is the 1st accurate thing you've said in regards to politics.

 

Still don't know how calling her center right counters what I said about right wingers being hypocritical and dishonest when it comes to claiming to be for personal freedom and wanting govt out of people's lives.

[Prysin]

1 hour ago, ivan134 said:

Calling neo Nazis right wing and not socialist is the 1st accurate thing you've said in regards to politics.

 

Still don't know how calling her center right counters what I said about right wingers being hypocritical and dishonest when it comes to claiming to be for personal freedom and wanting govt out of people's lives.

iv'e never claimed right wing is anti gov. that is libertarians. Right wing is privatized with heavy gov regulation. Left is centralized with total gov control/crippling regulation. 

[ivan134]

1 hour ago, Prysin said:

iv'e never claimed right wing is anti gov. that is libertarians. Right wing is privatized with heavy gov regulation. Left is centralized with total gov control/crippling regulation. 

That's another irony/hypocrisy. Regulations that make it difficult for smaller startups to enter the playing field against bigger and well established corporations are written by right wingers.

[Guest]

Ya'll fancy fucking off with your political definitions somewhere else before you get yet another tech thread locked because there's a political aspect and some people can't handle that without comparing dick sizes?

[Spenser1337]

3 minutes ago, AUniqueName said:

Ya'll fancy fucking off with your political definitions somewhere else before you get yet another tech thread locked because there's a political aspect and some people can't handle that without comparing dick sizes?

While we are on this topic how long is yours?

[dexT]

On 5/19/2017 at 2:10 PM, ivan134 said:

Good old right wing personal freedom

I think it's more about the massive child porn problem in the UK than politics.