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Posted · Original PosterOP

I just bought my DT990 (used) for $173 two weeks ago and it's been great. I do wish the mids were more pronounced and the highs were calmer. 

 

I found a listing for a used HE 400S going for $171. It has repaired and reinforced cables. The owner bought it used so I'll be the 3rd owner if I end up swapping to this (I'm fine with this TBH).

 

I'll mainly use it for movies and games (FPS like Overwatch, Battlegrounds, Destiny 2). I listen to music from time to time (mostly Arctic Monkeys, Kendrick Lamar, Frank Ocean, etc)

 

ps I'm confident I can sell my DT990 for $161 at the LEAST.
pps Prices are converted from Philippine Peso. Hopefully that explains the absurd prices I have to deal with, lol


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41 minutes ago, Raccatography said:

I just bought my DT990 (used) for $173 two weeks ago and it's been great. I do wish the mids were more pronounced and the highs were calmer. 

 

I found a listing for a used HE 400S going for $171. It has repaired and reinforced cables. The owner bought it used so I'll be the 3rd owner if I end up swapping to this (I'm fine with this TBH).

 

I'll mainly use it for movies and games (FPS like Overwatch, Battlegrounds, Destiny 2). I listen to music from time to time (mostly Arctic Monkeys, Kendrick Lamar, Frank Ocean, etc)

 

ps I'm confident I can sell my DT990 for $161 at the LEAST.
pps Prices are converted from Philippine Peso. Hopefully that explains the absurd prices I have to deal with, lol

Are you talking USD in terms of currency?

 

Because you can buy brand new DT990's on Amazon.com for ~$175 w/ free shipping to US. If you live overseas, of course, your regional pricing may vary.

 

But it comes down to this: Have you tried listening to the HE400S? If not, I'd be skeptical at first at swapping the DT990's out. They're great cans.

 

I wouldn't get rid of them until you've tried out the replacement and you're sure you're not trading one downside for a different downside.


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1 minute ago, dalekphalm said:

Are you talking USD in terms of currency?

 

Because you can buy brand new DT990's on Amazon.com for ~$175 w/ free shipping to US. If you live overseas, of course, your regional pricing may vary.

 

But it comes down to this: Have you tried listening to the HE400S? If not, I'd be skeptical at first at swapping the DT990's out. They're great cans.

 

I wouldn't get rid of them until you've tried out the replacement and you're sure you're not trading one downside for a different downside.

In terms of currency. I don't live in US. Prices here for headphones are jacked up so good deals usually come in the form of used bits

I do want to audition them!! :) I was hoping I would get an easy answer though. Foolish me :D 


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3 minutes ago, Raccatography said:

In terms of currency. I don't live in US. Prices here for headphones are jacked up so good deals usually come in the form of used bits

I do want to audition them!! :) I was hoping I would get an easy answer though. Foolish me :D 

According to a few comparisons, the HE400S does sound better, but it's heavier physically and less comfortable:

https://www.head-fi.org/f/threads/comparison-between-hifiman-he-400-beyerdynamic-dt-990-250Ω-w-pics.639337/

 

The dude doing the comparison really loves Metal, mind you lol, but he does compare a Rap song, and an EDM song too.


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10 minutes ago, dalekphalm said:

According to a few comparisons, the HE400S does sound better, but it's heavier physically and less comfortable:

https://www.head-fi.org/f/threads/comparison-between-hifiman-he-400-beyerdynamic-dt-990-250Ω-w-pics.639337/

 

The dude doing the comparison really loves Metal, mind you lol, but he does compare a Rap song, and an EDM song too.

you are mixing the headphones up. There is a HE 400, HE 400s and HE 400i, the HE 400's are the old ones with the bad headband, the HE 400s' and HE 400i's has the new headband which is super comfy. Unless OP ofc mixed up the headphones first. I would do the swap, just to get rid of the DT 990's highs, but the newer Hifiman headphones are rather poorly made, so DON'T DROP THEM.

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HE 400 (not made anymore)

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HE 400i

 

 


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16 minutes ago, dalekphalm said:

According to a few comparisons, the HE400S does sound better, but it's heavier physically and less comfortable:

https://www.head-fi.org/f/threads/comparison-between-hifiman-he-400-beyerdynamic-dt-990-250Ω-w-pics.639337/

 

The dude doing the comparison really loves Metal, mind you lol, but he does compare a Rap song, and an EDM song too.

That's the old version (as pointed out by Dackzy). I occasionally listen to some Machinae Supremacy but definitely lesser than how much I listen to other genres/artists

4 minutes ago, Dackzy said:

you are mixing the headphones up. There is a HE 400, HE 400s and HE 400i, the HE 400's are the old ones with the bad headband, the HE 400s' and HE 400i's has the new headband which is super comfy. Unless OP ofc mixed up the headphones first. I would do the swap, just to get rid of the DT 990's highs, but the newer Hifiman headphones are rather poorly made, so DON'T DROP THEM.

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HE 400 (not made anymore)

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HE 400s

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HE 400i

 

 

That's exactly the reason why I'd do the swap. The highs on the DT 990 become unbearable with certain songs... I like me some Bob Marley but instead of getting good vibes from his music, my head is just splitting into two from the sharp highs

 

Is there any way I can mod the Hifiman's to make them more durable? The owner of the HE 400s already reinforced the wires :S 

Not related: But I will put Brainwavz Angled Memory Foams for the HE 400s if I end up swapping


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That's the old version (as pointed out by Dackzy). I occasionally listen to some Machinae Supremacy but definitely lesser than how much I listen to other genres/artists

That's exactly the reason why I'd do the swap. The highs on the DT 990 become unbearable with certain songs... I like me some Bob Marley but instead of getting good vibes from his music, my head is just splitting into two from the sharp highs

 

Is there any way I can mod the Hifiman's to make them more durable? The owner of the HE 400s already reinforced the wires :S 

Not related: But I will put Brainwavz Angled Memory Foams for the HE 400s if I end up swapping

Not what I know of, they are just headphones you need to be careful with. Their older headphones like the HE 500's are built very well, but I guess they got too cheap.

I would actually get Hifiman Focus Pads for them or Hifiman Focus A Pads (I use those)


Before you buy amp and dac.  My thoughts on the M50x I might have a thing for audio...

My main Headphones: HE 560, K612 pro.

DAC and AMP: O2 and ODAC combo (for sale 135€). Dual PCM63k + tube DAC (still waiting for an amp).

Speakers: Monitor Audio Bronze 2, Argon 7460A

Receiver: Yamaha R-N500

Desktop: R7 1700, GTX 1080 and other stuff

Laptop: Thinkpad T420s (top model)

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Posted · Original PosterOP
2 hours ago, Dackzy said:

Not what I know of, they are just headphones you need to be careful with. Their older headphones like the HE 500's are built very well, but I guess they got too cheap.

I would actually get Hifiman Focus Pads for them or Hifiman Focus A Pads (I use those)

I see. Hm, slightly off topic question. Do I need an amp for the HE-400s and the HE-400i?

 

I'm thinking of selling my whole kit: DT990 Pro and Fiio E18 to get an HE-400i with some cash left for... pizza


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45 minutes ago, Raccatography said:

I see. Hm, slightly off topic question. Do I need an amp for the HE-400s and the HE-400i?

 

I'm thinking of selling my whole kit: DT990 Pro and Fiio E18 to get an HE-400i with some cash left for... pizza

the 400s' are easy to power planar headphones (still harder to power than a lot of normal dynamic headphones), while the HE 400i's are quite a bit harder to power. They do both like to be hooked up to something with a bit more power than your average onboard. I would keep your E18


Before you buy amp and dac.  My thoughts on the M50x I might have a thing for audio...

My main Headphones: HE 560, K612 pro.

DAC and AMP: O2 and ODAC combo (for sale 135€). Dual PCM63k + tube DAC (still waiting for an amp).

Speakers: Monitor Audio Bronze 2, Argon 7460A

Receiver: Yamaha R-N500

Desktop: R7 1700, GTX 1080 and other stuff

Laptop: Thinkpad T420s (top model)

Feel free to pm me if you have a question for me or quote me. If you want to hear what I have to say about something just tag me.

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