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HTC Vive or Oculus Rift? - What should I / would you buy and why?

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My Story:
I recently started earning some money this opens up a lot of new perspectives for an otherwise rather poor student.
I had tried the Oculus twice at Gamescom 2016 - both times in sitting position - and was utterly unimpressed with what I saw.
This and the price were reasons why VR wasn't very interesting to me until recently.
I saw a review of the Pimax 4K and tried and HTC Vive at a local store - this time in a standing position -  and "oh boy!" that was so much better.
I thought: The Pimax could be it, my perfect cheap entrance to VR. Luckily I even found one on ebay for 260€
from a guy who got a Vive for christmas so he never opened or let alone used his Pimax. I went ahead and bought it.
It was and is still interesting but I keep running into limitations. It is either the missing appropriate tracking (Pimax only has 3 axis tracking)
or some other technical quirks of the glasses I don't want to get into right here. In conclusion I got a first look at VR on the cheap.

Currently I am trying to sell the Pimax again and considering either getting a Vive or a Rift but i am not sure.

I also had another taste of the Oculus Rift - this time standing - and it didn't feel worse than the Vive though there were mutliple weeks between trying both (adda grain of salt here).

Since I now have the cash but not the knowledge I need to make a conscious buying decision I came here to ask you some things and compile what i found out so far.
There are some pros and cons and I don't feel like luke has said enough in his month old "final answer".
Do you personally have experience with both or any of these and can help me with this? Please leave a suggestion!

 

 

(Notes:

  • I have -1 on each - myopic that is - on each eye so without glasses is usually fine but I'd prefere to fit them in there
  • I'd generally prefere not to support Facebook since i do not agree with a lot of things they do. I might be able to completely overlook that though if someone comes up with the ultimate feature of the rift I forgot
  • I also don't like the exclusivity since it locks people out of games in an already small industry
  • rough measuring I have couch to desk 2 meters and wall to the middel of the room 2.5m-3 meters of space
  • (3770k @4.6GHz and a GTX 1080 should be enough power)

 

 

So far I know (open question are marked in bolt - Feel free to add some to these if I forgot about something):

 

Oculus:

  • Way cheaper at 499€ from amazon + 119€ for the Touch controllers for a total of 620€
  • Shorter, thinner cable
  • smaller FoV looking through a porthole feeling. On first impression text can be read easily, more easily that with Vive (subjective feel)
  • lighter headset
  • Removable headphones but not advised since stock sound is pretty good though I
  • Comes with an X-BOne Controller
  • Touch controllers are more ergonomic and pick up gestures better
  • Controllers take AA batteries :/ not yet sure if that is a good or a bad thing (claimed 30 hour battery life)
  • Cams are "only" 69€ which i consider an ok price
  • lighter controllers
  • 4m long headset cable. Seems just long enough for my purposes
  • Needs 4 USB ports, 3 of which have to be 3.0 ... srsly?
  • 2.5m Cable for the cams - more bad than good. I am also missing unoccupied USB Ports: Should i get an PCIe extension for some more?
  • Seems to have a lot more (partly exclusive) games than Vive (help please)
  • I have no idea how good or bad the tracking really is when used in room scale mode
  • Comes with a Remote o_O wth is that for?
  • What games does it come with? The 6 listed on the Oculus website? (here:https://www.oculus.com/rift/) Robo Recall is included with the Touch controllers
  • It Seems harder to clean than the Vive- specifically the headset's pad. Is that correct?
  • How has your experience with their store and software been so far?

 

Vive:

  • starts at 899€
  • Controllers have proprietary batteries which are at 960mAh not even that large :/
  • bulky 5m tri-cable solution (There is a separat 3to1to3 cable solution which costs 45€ or is that included nowadays?)
  • uses only one USB 2.0 port
  • heavier headset
  • Higher FoV but also more screen door effect, harder to read text. More immersed feel (my subjective feeling)
  • no included headphones, headphone strap available soon
  • Additional lighthouse sensor is 150€
  • Additional controllers can be purchased but are 145€ :/
  • has the cat cam though I don't have any livestock in house that I could step on, lul
  • comes with 5 meh games as far as I can tell. (Subjectively I consider job simulator-like only meh)
  • comes with in ear headphones though I will probably not use them since I have DT880s or Hifiman Re400s
  • On steam are considerably more games listed that support the Vive though that doesn't say anything about a singular game's quality
  • heavier controllers
  • Are the Vive trackers (coming soon) any interesting for a consumer like me?
  • How has your experience with their store and software been so far?

I will probably have to add points later on but this is what is on my mind for now.
The dilema basically is that I liked the roomscale-ness :P of the Vive but don't actually have that much room
and
the Oculus is 270€ (maybe 200 with a third camera subtractred) cheaper than the Vive but I think contrary to to so many things Oculus and Facebook stand for in the industry AND to add insult to the injury the Touch controllers really are better than the Vive Controllers. :/

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Just now, Ethocreeper said:

The vive is better

Just Google it

So did you even read my post? I don't want to get passive aggresive here but it seems like you haven't lol

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Just now, GER_T4IGA said:

So did you even read my post? I don't want to get passive aggresive here but it seems like you haven't lol

I've read it

I would chose the vive in your position

The rift is also expensive why not get the best. I think its worth the extra

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Just now, Ethocreeper said:

I've read it

I would chose the vive in your position

The rift is also expensive why not get the best. I think its worth the extra

To put it in perspective: The vive costs more than I earn in a month (but I still live with my parents so I can afford it)

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Just now, GER_T4IGA said:

To put it in perspective: The vive costs more than I earn in a month (but I still live with my parents so I can afford it)

Take it with a grain of salt. All I know for vr is from videos

I haven't used any vr ever (there arent any demos here where I live)

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5 minutes ago, GER_T4IGA said:

To put it in perspective: The vive costs more than I earn in a month (but I still live with my parents so I can afford it)

VR is very a very niche product unless you can actually afford it don't but it, save your money. 

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1 minute ago, nerdslayer1 said:

VR is very a very niche product unless you can actually afford it don't but it, save your money. 

I can. The question is just how much it will cost me. I can resonate with your opinion though. Do you personally have VR experience?

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The oculus is so much more ergonomic and "premium" feeling. It has experimental full room-scale VR when you have 3 or more sensors (just like the lighthouses of the vive)

I have a rift, but I've never used a vive. Coming from a person that prefers ergonomics, especially when it comes to immersive VR, the rift takes the cake in my opinion.

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Just now, GER_T4IGA said:

I can. The question is just how much it will cost me. I can resonate with your opinion though. Do you personally have VR experience?

my friend bought both vive and rift it to try it out, he returned them both after 10 days, VR is not worth it for now, its basically a big expensive tech demo. save your money for next generation VR or for the future. 

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Just now, ThatCarlosGuy said:

The oculus is so much more ergonomic and "premium" feeling. It has experimental full room-scale VR when you have 3 or more sensors (just like the lighthouses of the vive)

I have a rift, but I've never used a vive. Coming from a person that prefers ergonomics, especially when it comes to immersive VR, the rift takes the cake in my opinion.

Vive is much better than rift, lots of devs are avoiding it after facebook bought it. 

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2 minutes ago, GER_T4IGA said:

I can. The question is just how much it will cost me. I can resonate with your opinion though. Do you personally have VR experience?

Vive all the way. The tracking is better with the lighthouses and you don't need to buy more stand things like the Oculus for tracking. Comes with one but you need 2 and ideally 4 for the best tracking. They aren't cheap either. The Vive also has new modules like wireless, eye tracking, and a new headband that supports the weight better.

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1 minute ago, nerdslayer1 said:

my friend bought both vive and rift it to try it out, he returned them both after 10 days, VR is not worth it for now, its basically a big expensive tech demo. save your money for next generation VR or for the future. 

I would have to disagree. 

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Just now, BuckGup said:

I would have to disagree. 

for using it once or twice its ok but not worth it. 

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Just now, nerdslayer1 said:

lots of devs are avoiding it after facebook bought it. 

Be that as it may, I prefer the look and feel of the rift. Personal opinion thought.

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Just now, ThatCarlosGuy said:

Be that as it may, I prefer the look and feel of the rift. Personal opinion thought.

Hardware is good as software, without decent software hardware is useless. 

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Just now, nerdslayer1 said:

for using it once or twice its ok but not worth it. 

Again if you have never owned won for more than 40 days you wouldn't find the crazy things possible with it.

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Just now, BuckGup said:

Again if you have never owned won for more than 40 days you wouldn't find the crazy things possible with it.

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Vive:2

Rift: 1
Fuck dis shit:1

Thank you everyone :D

I think I will try both in one day AGAIN to investigate the tracking. First time Vive felt exceptional and second time too but idk if Rift was not as good or just due to my preconditioned state :/
@nerdslayer1 I can see your point and have had my Pimax lying around unused after a few sessions. i just keep telling myself it will be different with the Rift/Vive. A legitimate issue.
 

http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/334934-unofficial-ltt-beginners-guide/ (by Minibois) and a few things that will make our community interaction more pleasent:
1. FOLLOW your own topics                                                                                2.Try to QUOTE people so we can read through things easier
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2 minutes ago, GER_T4IGA said:

Vive:2

Rift: 1
Fuck dis shit:1

Thank you everyone :D

I think I will try both in one day AGAIN to investigate the tracking. First time Vive felt exceptional and second time too but idk if Rift was not as good or just due to my preconditioned state :/
@nerdslayer1 I can see your point and have had my Pimax lying around unused after a few sessions. i just keep telling myself it will be different with the Rift/Vive. A legitimate issue.
 

i was also a student once, just save your money you will need it, spending money on expensive tech demos are not really for poor students. 

 

2 minutes ago, GER_T4IGA said:

I can see your point and have had my Pimax lying around unused after a few sessions. i just keep telling myself it will be different with the Rift/Vive. A legitimate issue.

no such thing as a killer app sadly 

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2 minutes ago, GER_T4IGA said:

Vive:2

Rift: 1
Fuck dis shit:1

Thank you everyone :D

I think I will try both in one day AGAIN to investigate the tracking. First time Vive felt exceptional and second time too but idk if Rift was not as good or just due to my preconditioned state :/
@nerdslayer1 I can see your point and have had my Pimax lying around unused after a few sessions. i just keep telling myself it will be different with the Rift/Vive. A legitimate issue.
 

The Pimax was an utter mess compared to the Vive and Rift. It has a lower res but the higher refresh rate is a must. VR is great and you can easily loose track of time and your only warning to stop is your aching knees and back.

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1 minute ago, nerdslayer1 said:

i was also a student once, just save your money you will need it, spending money on expensive tech demos are not really for poor students. 

 

IT'S NOT A TECH DEMO.

https://news.fastcompany.com/vr-was-nearly-a-2-billion-business-in-2016-4029900

 

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Never tried either but considering that the Vive was ready to go at launch that's the option i'd do for. 

 

IIRC the Rift did not have the touch controllers at launch so you'd just be at your seat getting "immersed" in controller setup lol. 

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2 minutes ago, BuckGup said:

IT'S NOT A TECH DEMO.

https://news.fastcompany.com/vr-was-nearly-a-2-billion-business-in-2016-4029900

nothing really came out of it, really excited for the future, for now, it's really not worth the price. 

 

 

edit- gear vr sales was also included same with google 

 

 

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1 minute ago, BuckGup said:

The Pimax was an utter mess compared to the Vive and Rift. It has a lower res but the higher refresh rate is a must. VR is great and you can easily loose track of time and your only warning to stop is your aching knees and back.

Since I am such a "Outside WutFace!" type guy I though falling asweat in some games might also be pretty handy. I am by no means overweight but you know, 5kg less are usually not a bad thing.

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