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Posted · Original PosterOP

I am looking to buy a new laptop this summer. Primarily, this is for school use and must be decently portable and have good battery life to last me the day. But, I also do video editing as a hobby, and I am trying to decide whether I need a discrete GPU. They eat power, take up space and the laptops that have them are all gaming oriented and VERY expensive. The question is, do I really need dedicated graphics, or is the iGPU on the processor going to be okay for video editing and other content creation.

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I would think a discrete like a 1050 would be preferable to have for 1080p+. These GPUs show up in laptop that aren't at all gaming oriented (XPS 15, for instance).  The Inspiron 7000 series has a 1050/1050 Ti.

 

I don't edit videos though, so my opinion is invalid. 

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No you don't. they don't add that much benefit to rendering simple videos.


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if you can spend the money on a quad core i7, it makes a hell of difference in in the time line ( at least it did for me when i Switch to a 4470 from a 4690K)


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21 minutes ago, nerdslayer1 said:

not really unless you edit high-quality 1080p or 4k videos, you should e good with IGPU. 

gpu utilization doesnt even work properly on most video editing programms. If they support it at all, they suck at providing enough CPU power to manage the load on your GPU for rendering acceleration. Whenever i export a video my gpu usage is between 10-30% spiking around all the time in that area

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Just now, Tiwaz said:

gpu utilization doesnt even work properly on most video editing programms. If they support it at all, they suck at providing enough CPU power to manage the load on your GPU for rendering acceleration. Whenever i export a video my gpu usage is between 10-30% spiking around all the time in that area

Cuda or open CL makes a big difference. 

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1 minute ago, Tiwaz said:

gpu utilization doesnt even work properly on most video editing programms. If they support it at all, they suck at providing enough CPU power to manage the load on your GPU for rendering acceleration. Whenever i export a video my gpu usage is between 10-30% spiking around all the time in that area

CUDA rendering makes a massive difference. Where'd you get that info? o.O

 

Getting a laptop with a 1050 is probably the minimum you'd want to go for in all fairness.


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2 minutes ago, Imglidinhere said:

CUDA rendering makes a massive difference. Where'd you get that info? o.O

 

Getting a laptop with a 1050 is probably the minimum you'd want to go for in all fairness.

i am speaking from personal experience

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3 minutes ago, Imglidinhere said:

CUDA rendering makes a massive difference. Where'd you get that info? o.O

 

Getting a laptop with a 1050 is probably the minimum you'd want to go for in all fairness.

isnt the 1050 a desktop gpu?

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Just now, 79 Potatoes said:

They use desktop GPUs in laptops now

ah okay. thats pretty nice cuz it will drive down prices

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Just now, Tiwaz said:

ah okay. thats pretty nice cuz it will drive down prices

It's not the same thing as what you're thinking... It hasn't driven down prices for squat. :P 


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1 minute ago, Imglidinhere said:

It's not the same thing as what you're thinking... It hasn't driven down prices for squat. :P 

but desktop gpus are cheaper to manufacture

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2 minutes ago, Tiwaz said:

ah okay. thats pretty nice cuz it will drive down prices

Nope.

 

It's the same chip as is in the desktop 1050.  but it's still soldered to the board.  If anything they're more expensive now.

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the better question is if you can *afford* one.

 

laptops that come with a GPU without skimping on the cpu side of things are often MUCH more expensive than their iGPU counterparts. i'd rather suggest you look towards something with a better processor, and that's easier to carry around.

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Just now, CerberusLabrat said:

Nope.

 

It's the same chip as is in the desktop 1050.  but it's still soldered to the board.  If anything they're more expensive now.

doesnt make any sense, previously laptops had xxxM GPUs. They needed to be more efficient thats why they'Re so expensive, they basically gave the gpus more CUDA cores and lower clock speeds to get more performance/watt

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19 minutes ago, Tiwaz said:

doesnt make any sense, previously laptops had xxxM GPUs. They needed to be more efficient thats why they'Re so expensive, they basically gave the gpus more CUDA cores and lower clock speeds to get more performance/watt

They're the same chips, same amount of cores, same memory, same power requirements.  Just underclocked to help with the power needs (that's why they're still slower than desktop chips).

 

This means that there's just more volume of the same GPU out there. And the mobile chips don't have to be able to achieve the clock settings that the ones bound for desktop cards do.

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1 hour ago, CerberusLabrat said:

They're the same chips, same amount of cores, same memory, same power requirements.  Just underclocked to help with the power needs (that's why they're still slower than desktop chips).

 

This means that there's just more volume of the same GPU out there. And the mobile chips don't have to be able to achieve the clock settings that the ones bound for desktop cards do.

Actually they aren't underclocked at all. If anything, the 1050 and Ti models are clocked higher than the desktop models.


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Posted · Original PosterOP

Any recommendations on what to buy? I was looking at the razer blade, but I am not sure if I should buy it, because razer may come out with a new one sometime soon? Anyone know?

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59 minutes ago, ak11234 said:

Any recommendations on what to buy? I was looking at the razer blade, but I am not sure if I should buy it, because razer may come out with a new one sometime soon? Anyone know?

 

LOL NO. that is a shit laptop. you'll be fine with something like the Dell Latitude E5480. Find one with a quad core 7820HQ and a 930MX for CUDA acceleration. 


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XPS 15 is a fantastic laptop, for your use case especially I would say. 

 

16 hours ago, Pendragon said:

LOL NO. that is a shit laptop. you'll be fine with something like the Dell Latitude E5480. Find one with a quad core 7820HQ and a 930MX for CUDA acceleration. 

...What? There is no Dell Latitude E5480.  You have the E5470, and then you have the 5480 (no E). Neither of them have the 7820HQ as an option (the 7300HQ is the top processor for either model) and they all have intel onboard graphics...

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2 hours ago, CerberusLabrat said:

...What? There is no Dell Latitude E5480.  You have the E5470, and then you have the 5480 (no E). Neither of them have the 7820HQ as an option (the 7300HQ is the top processor for either model) and they all have intel onboard graphics...

Can't tell if full on trolling or full on blind. 

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I missed the extra pages of 5480s.  Point remains that it is not an E5480.  It's just a 5480.

 

Also of note is that for a 5480 with a 930MX you're looking at a minimum of $1,528.30, because you have to upgrade from a 2.5" drive to an M.2, you have to switch to the dual pointer palmrest and keyboard with thunderbolt, and you have to go the 90W power adapter.  Then that configuration has 4GB of RAM and a 128GB SATA SSD. 

 

Versus the XPS 15 can be had with a 7700HQ, 8GB of RAM, 256GB NVMe, and a 1050 for $70 less.

 

I would not spend an extra $70 to have half the RAM, half the storage at a quarter the speed, and a 3% better CPU.

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