Setting my FX9590 out to pasture...

[ajcroteau]

Hey everybody,

 

I've decided to retire my aging FX9590 chip, ram & motherboard which i've had for a few years... I'm look at either a Ryzen 7 1700X or a i7-7700K Intel processor. My gut is telling me to go Intel.

 

Either way, I'm going G.Skill TridentZ memory and an ASUS motherboard, either TUF Mark 1 or Crosshair VI Hero...

 

Just wanted to get people's thoughts before I pull the trigger...

 

AJ

[Guest]

1 minute ago, ajcroteau said:

Hey everybody,

 

I've decided to retire my aging FX9590 chip, ram & motherboard which i've had for a few years... I'm look at either a Ryzen 7 1700X or a i7-7700K Intel processor. My gut is telling me to go Intel.

 

Either way, I'm going G.Skill TridentZ memory and an ASUS motherboard, either TUF Mark 1 or Crosshair VI Hero...

 

Just wanted to get people's thoughts before I pull the trigger...

 

AJ

What is the purpose of your computer?

[B-17rocks]

Do you do many Multi threaded applications? if so get the Ryzen 7

[Bidon]

What's the purpose of your PC?

[Electronics Wizardy]

Kinda unrelated, How much you want for that 9590, ive been looking for one.

[ajcroteau]

4 minutes ago, Bidon said:

What's the purpose of your PC?

 

4 minutes ago, deXxterlab97 said:

What is the purpose of your computer?

Thank you for your responses...

 

The main purpose of this machine has been gaming... But i don't really want to dedicate this machine into only gaming or only productivity or development. I do all three pretty much and like having options of going either way with any of my machines...

 

AJ

[Guest]

1 minute ago, ajcroteau said:

 

Thank you for your responses...

 

The main purpose of this machine has been gaming... But i don't really want to pigeon whole this machine into either gaming, productivity or development. I do all three pretty much and like having options of going either way with any of my machines...

 

AJ

i7 7700k it is then

[Haeking]

7700K then if you aim to mainly game on it 

[n00bmlg]

1 minute ago, ajcroteau said:

 

Thank you for your responses...

 

The main purpose of this machine has been gaming... But i don't really want to pigeon whole this machine into either gaming, productivity or development. I do all three pretty much and like having options of going either way with any of my machines...

 

AJ

Then get Ryzen, the i7 is better for strictly gaming but Ryzen is better at everything else

[Haeking]

5 minutes ago, n00bmlg said:

Then get Ryzen, the i7 is better for strictly gaming but Ryzen is better at everything else

Woops I spaced the hell out only seeing the first part for gaming lmfao, ryzen is far better its what Im using for my build a 1700x should suit your fancy the 1800x is not worth the .2ghz

 

[i_build_nanosuits]

i would get something like this, overclock the R5 1600 a bit and i think you have a very good CPU for gaming for years to come...more headroom than 7700K...and cheaper...6c/12t/16MB cache...better:

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  ($217.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI - B350 PC MATE ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($84.33 @ OutletPC)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($110.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $413.21
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-05-18 12:04 EDT-0400

[PCGuy_5960]

8 minutes ago, ajcroteau said:

The main purpose of this machine has been gaming...

Get the 7700K

[TechyInAZ]

Ryzen is gona be better either way. With high speed RAM it gets really close to i7 perfromance.

[PCGuy_5960]

3 minutes ago, i_build_nanosuits said:

i would get something like this, overclock the R5 1600 a bit and i think you have a very good CPU for gaming for years to come...more headroom than 7700K...and cheaper...6c/8t/16MB cache...better:

Nah, the 7700K will still be better in games for the next 3-4 years. But if you get the Ryzen 5 1600, you have more headroom to do other things while gaming and it is cheaper, which is always good 

[PCGuy_5960]

Just now, TechyInAZ said:

Ryzen is gona be better either way. With high speed RAM it gets really close to i7 perfromance.

In games? No. Gamers Nexus tested Ryzen with 3466MHz DDR4 and the overclocked Ryzen chip was still 10-15% behind the stock 6900K/7700K

[i_build_nanosuits]

Just now, PCGuy_5960 said:

Nah, the 7700K will still be better in games for the next 3-4 years. But if you get the Ryzen 5 1600, you have more headroom to do other things while gaming and it is cheaper, which is always good 

well...i use an i7 myself, yes it's not a 7700K...but still overclocked haswell...close enough IMHO...and in some games i do see high CPU load on all cores/threads, and there are micro-stutters from time to time, which apparently is not there on ryzen 6 and 8 cores chip...reviewers seem to agree that gaming feel smoother on a multi-core ryzen chip, and to me it kinda make sense...personally if my CPU die i ain't buyin a 7700K...i'm getting a R5 1600.

[Guest]

8 minutes ago, n00bmlg said:

Then get Ryzen, the i7 is better for strictly gaming but Ryzen is better at everything else

 

6 minutes ago, i_build_nanosuits said:

i would get something like this, overclock the R5 1600 a bit and i think you have a very good CPU for gaming for years to come...more headroom than 7700K...and cheaper...6c/12t/16MB cache...better:

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  ($217.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI - B350 PC MATE ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($84.33 @ OutletPC)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($110.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $413.21
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-05-18 12:04 EDT-0400

2 minutes ago, TechyInAZ said:

Ryzen is gona be better either way. With high speed RAM it gets really close to i7 perfromance.

10 minutes ago, ajcroteau said:

But i don't really want to dedicate this machine into only gaming or only productivity or development.

 

[i_build_nanosuits]

1 minute ago, PCGuy_5960 said:

In games? No. Gamers Nexus tested Ryzen with 3466MHz DDR4 and the overclocked Ryzen chip was still 10-15% behind the stock 6900K/7700K

on average FPS...not in perceived smootness of animation.

[TechyInAZ]

Plus does it matter? 10% difference for a CPU in my opinion doesn't matter for gaming. Not to mention new APIs are going mainstream eventually so it's only going to get better.

[PCGuy_5960]

Just now, i_build_nanosuits said:

well...i use an i7 myself, yes it's not a 7700K...but still overclocked haswell...close enough IMHO...and in some games i do see high CPU load on all cores/threads, and there are micro-stutters from time to time, which apparently is not there on ryzen 6 and 8 cores chip...reviewers seem to agree that gaming feel smoother on a multi-core ryzen chip, and to me it kinda make sense...personally if my CPU die i ain't buyin a 7700K...i'm getting a R5 1600.

TBH, all 6/8+ core CPUs feel smoother, because having more cores helps out with frametimes

[i_build_nanosuits]

Just now, PCGuy_5960 said:

TBH, all 6/8+ core CPUs feel smoother, because having more cores helps out with frametimes

exactly...and a R5 1600 is cheaper than a i7-6800K which is the real competitor here...and if you clock the AMD to 3.9 or 4.0ghz it's faster than the OC 4.0/4.2ghz 6800K...even in single-threaded performance

[PCGuy_5960]

1 minute ago, i_build_nanosuits said:

on average FPS...not in perceived smootness of animation.

The 7700K is just as smooth in most games. There are very few games where the i7 stutters, but when the 7700K stutters, it is more noticeable, because its average FPS are higher.

[i_build_nanosuits]

Just now, PCGuy_5960 said:

The 7700K is just as smooth in most games. There are very few games where the i7 stutters, but when the 7700K stutters, it is more noticeable, because its average FPS are higher.

very few games...is already ''a few games'' too much for a 350$ CPU...and these are games from NOW or the past...what about...FUTURE games...

[brammokeefe]

16 minutes ago, deXxterlab97 said:

i7 7700k it is then

id say dont spend the money on the k variant of the chip though.... gets hot, intel doesnt recommend OC'ing it lol

[PCGuy_5960]

Just now, i_build_nanosuits said:

exactly...and a R5 1600 is cheaper than a i7-6800K which is the real competitor here...

Well, I'm gonna be honest with you, the 6800K sucks. A 5820K is cheaper and it performs better than the 6800K, because it overclocks higher  Of course, the 1600 is MUCH better value than both

3 minutes ago, i_build_nanosuits said:

and if you clock the AMD to 3.9 or 4.0ghz it's faster than the OC 4.0/4.2ghz 6800K...even in single-threaded performance

Multithreaded, yes. Single threaded? No, 5% slower than a 4GHz 6800K. But that 5% better single core performance doesn't justify paying 2x more