Posted May 16, 2017 (edited) I saw this article and thought it was kind of funny... According to a ruling in a US Federal Appeals court, Google will be allowed to keep the trademark to the name Google. Apparently at issue is whether the term google has become so predominate in usage that it would preclude you from having a search engine without using the term 'googling' to describe a search. https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/05/genericide-assault-to-nullify-the-google-trademark-fails/ Quote A federal appeals court sided with Google in a case brought by a man who bought 763 domains with the term "google" in them. The court ruled that Google still retains its trademark even if the term "google" has become known for searching the Internet. One reason is because Google is a search engine and a whole lot more. "Even if we assume that the public uses the verb 'google' in a generic and indiscriminate sense, this tells us nothing about how the public primarily understands the word itself, irrespective of its grammatical function, with regard to Internet search engines," the San Francisco-based 9th US Circuit Court of Appeals ruled. The court noted that trademark loss to genericide occurs when the name has become an "exclusive descriptor" that makes it difficult for competitors to compete unless they use that name. I guess this could be considered good news for Microsoft as they now have no chance of worrying about losing a trademark for Bing. EDIT: I've added a poll for those interested... Edited May 16, 2017 by WMGroomAK Added a poll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 16, 2017 I have never used "google" to replace "search" and don't see how a trademark dispute could happen over uncommonly common word usage. Cor Caeruleus Reborn v6 Spoiler CPU: Intel - Core i7-8700K CPU Cooler: be quiet! - PURE ROCK Thermal Compound: Arctic Silver - 5 High-Density Polysynthetic Silver 3.5g Thermal Paste Motherboard: ASRock Z370 Extreme4 Memory: G.Skill TridentZ RGB 2x8GB 3200/14 Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive Storage: Samsung - 960 EVO 500GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive Storage: Western Digital - Blue 2TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive Storage: Western Digital - BLACK SERIES 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive Video Card: EVGA - 970 SSC ACX (1080 is in RMA) Case: Fractal Design - Define R5 w/Window (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA P2 750W with CableMod blue/black Pro Series Optical Drive: LG - WH16NS40 Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Pro OEM 64-bit and Linux Mint Serena Keyboard: Logitech - G910 Orion Spectrum RGB Wired Gaming Keyboard Mouse: Logitech - G502 Wired Optical Mouse Headphones: Logitech - G430 7.1 Channel Headset Speakers: Logitech - Z506 155W 5.1ch Speakers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 16, 2017 does nobody say 'look it up' ive never said 'google it' outside of an ironic context idk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 16, 2017 There's a good reason nobody has ever Yahoo!'d anything. 3600X @ stocke | 5600XT TUF OC @ 1850 | 2x16 + 2x8 RAM 3200 HD | 1tb Samsung 970 EVO Plus | Lian Li 205M | TT Toughpower Grand RGB 850 | throwaway b450 asus mobo | BQ cooler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 16, 2017 2 minutes ago, ARikozuM said: I have never used "google" to replace "search" and don't see how a trademark dispute could happen over uncommonly common word usage. I think you're in a very small minority there. Most people I come across use the term "Google it" instead of "Search for it" or something similar. You may be surprised how many trademarks are actually genericized (or rather, close to it) and have just become the word for that thing. Videotape, Trampoline, Escalator and Sellotape are all genericized trademarks. They get to a point where they become the accepted and most commonly used term. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 16, 2017 Depends entirely on who I am talking to. I will say "Google it" to someone who is not / not very technology literate; they will associate the name with that white page that appears upon opening a browser where you enter text into a bar. Case: Corsair 4000D Airflow; Motherboard: MSI ZZ490 Gaming Edge; CPU: i7 10700K @ 5.1GHz; Cooler: Noctua NHD15S Chromax; RAM: Corsair LPX DDR4 32GB 3200MHz; Graphics Card: Asus RTX 3080 TUF; Power: EVGA SuperNova 750G2; Storage: 2 x Seagate Barracuda 1TB; Crucial M500 240GB & MX100 512GB; Keyboard: Logitech G710+; Mouse: Logitech G502; Headphones / Amp: HiFiMan Sundara / Mayflower Objective 2; Monitor: Asus VG27AQ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 16, 2017 To be honest I like to say "google is your friend" IRL. So I'm one of those people in question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 16, 2017 Author In order to get some better idea on how prevalent 'googling it' is in the lexicon, I've created a poll for this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 16, 2017 I always say "google it" (or "googla" as we say here in Sweden.) and most people I know tend to use the phrase instead of saying e.g "look it up". I could totally see the court ruling in favor of the random man instead of Google. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 16, 2017 Perhaps it's only me, but when I tell somebody to google it. I mean use Google specifically. Chances that most of the other search engines will provide anything useful as quickly or as highly ranked is at most very slim. If I was generalising for somebody to look online I wouldn't say to google it. I'm pretty sure bing only gets reffered to as a joke. I've never heard anybody say "bing it" without being sarcastic or facetious. (Sure somebody probably has but I've never heard it) One Steam to rule them all, One Sale to find them, One Sale to bring them all and with their wallets, bind them! - r/pcmasterrace 17/01/2014 Spoiler CPU: Intel Core i7 6700k CPU Cooler: CM Hyper 212+ RAM: 16GB Kingston HyperX Fury 2400Mhz (2x8GB) GPU: Gigabyte G1 R9 390 Mobo: Asus Z170-AR PSU: Antec High Current Gamer 900W Storage: 240GB intel 520 SSD (OS), Sandisk 128GB SSD(Other OS) 2x 2TB Seagate Barracuda Case: Fractal Design R4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 17, 2017 I duckduckgo it. ¸„»°'´¸„»°'´ Vorticalbox `'°«„¸`'°«„¸`'°«„¸¸„»°'´¸„»°'´`'°«„¸Scientia Potentia est ¸„»°'´`'°«„¸`'°«„¸¸„»°'´ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 17, 2017 3 minutes ago, vorticalbox said: I duckduckgo it. PRIVACY idk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 17, 2017 7 minutes ago, vorticalbox said: I duckduckgo it. I have DDG, but 100% of the time I !g Desktop: 7800x3d @ stock, 64gb ddr4 @ 6000, 3080Ti, x670 Asus Strix Laptop: Dell G3 15 - i7-8750h @ stock, 16gb ddr4 @ 2666, 1050Ti Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 17, 2017 10 hours ago, Oshino Shinobu said: I think you're in a very small minority there. Most people I come across use the term "Google it" instead of "Search for it" or something similar. You may be surprised how many trademarks are actually genericized (or rather, close to it) and have just become the word for that thing. Videotape, Trampoline, Escalator and Sellotape are all genericized trademarks. They get to a point where they become the accepted and most commonly used term. Kleenex, Jell-O, Bandaid, Dremel, Photoshop to name a few more. CPU: Intel i7 - 5820k @ 4.5GHz, Cooler: Corsair H80i, Motherboard: MSI X99S Gaming 7, RAM: Corsair Vengeance LPX 32GB DDR4 2666MHz CL16, GPU: ASUS GTX 980 Strix, Case: Corsair 900D, PSU: Corsair AX860i 860W, Keyboard: Logitech G19, Mouse: Corsair M95, Storage: Intel 730 Series 480GB SSD, WD 1.5TB Black Display: BenQ XL2730Z 2560x1440 144Hz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 17, 2017 "Google it" all the way, lol CPU: Intel i7 3970X @ 4.7 GHz (custom loop) RAM: Kingston 1866 MHz 32GB DDR3 GPU(s): 2x Gigabyte R9 290OC (custom loop) Motherboard: Asus P9X79 Case: Fractal Design R3 Cooling loop: 360 mm + 480 mm + 1080 mm, tripple 5D Vario pump Storage: 500 GB + 240 GB + 120 GB SSD, Seagate 4 TB HDD PSU: Corsair AX860i Display(s): Asus PB278Q, Asus VE247H Input: QPad 5K, Logitech G710+ Sound: uDAC3 + Philips Fidelio x2 HWBot: http://hwbot.org/user/tame/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 17, 2017 Should add "look it up" and "go EDUCATE yourself" to poll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 17, 2017 13 hours ago, Oshino Shinobu said: I think you're in a very small minority there. Most people I come across use the term "Google it" instead of "Search for it" or something similar. You may be surprised how many trademarks are actually genericized (or rather, close to it) and have just become the word for that thing. Videotape, Trampoline, Escalator and Sellotape are all genericized trademarks. They get to a point where they become the accepted and most commonly used term. Wait so what the hell is a trampoline or escalator really called? Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 17, 2017 6 minutes ago, Joelbanks5 said: Wait so what the hell is a trampoline or escalator really called? Lol Trampoline and Escalator are both genericized trademarks, so they're not actually trade marks anymore and have become the actual term for those things. I suppose Escalator would be called "moving mechanical stairs" or something similar. Not sure what you'd try to call a Trampoline in a generic way. There's a lot of trademarks that have become generic but have not lost their trademark because of it. Things like Velcro, Biro, Dremel, Frisbee etc. are examples of those. 3 hours ago, trag1c said: Kleenex, Jell-O, Bandaid, Dremel, Photoshop to name a few more. None of those are actually (fully/officially) Genericized, they still retain their trademark, like Google has. They're ones (like the examples in this post) that are used as a general term by a lot of people but have not lost their trademark because of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 17, 2017 What's next? Nintendo screwing people because they say switch? If you want my attention, quote meh! D: or just stick an @samcool55 in your post :3 Spying on everyone to fight against terrorism is like shooting a mosquito with a cannon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 17, 2017 The poll is full of lies, Everyone says google it because they are either speaking to non techies or they are non techies or they are techies speaking to techies but they still say it becasue they know what it means and don't care. everyone knows google is a company even though they use the noun as a verb. Except me, I say: Please enact a comparative binary lookup and retrieval script using data transfer protocols across an interconnected network of computers and display the result using a hypertext markup language format reader. Grammar and spelling is not indicative of intelligence/knowledge. Not having the same opinion does not always mean lack of understanding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 17, 2017 I'm not edgy or smart enough to say anything but google it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 18, 2017 No "Google is your friend" option? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 18, 2017 I say "Google it" to like 99% of people I know because it's the only search engine that's worth a damn to 99% of people I know. I say "look it up" or "go search it" to my friends who use DuckDuckGo though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 18, 2017 1 hour ago, Sniperfox47 said: I say "Google it" to like 99% of people I know because it's the only search engine that's worth a damn to 99% of people I know. I say "look it up" or "go search it" to my friends who use DuckDuckGo though. I tell people to "Google it", yet I gave up on Google a while ago. Much like "Photoshop it", Google is as much a verb as a Service now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 18, 2017 Fucking Kleenex effect >.> Only time I'll tell someone to "go grab a Kleenex" is if I know there's a box of Kleenex around. Otherwise it's "go grab a tissue". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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