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Just now, DrMacintosh said:

Its the same damn product. The only difference is that the TB model has a secondary CPU and a slightly smaller battery cell. 

that TB ruins a lot of things for pros. 

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Just now, nerdslayer1 said:

that TB ruins a lot of things for pros. 

Well it sucks for them now doesn't it? 

 

I'm yet to see what you have bad to say about it. Just what reviewers have said about it. 

 

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Just now, DrMacintosh said:

Well it sucks for them now doesn't it? 

 

 

no, that's not how a Macbook should be, my mac runs like new with good battery life. an upgrade should be an upgrade in every way, not a small battery computer with hardly any port for a "pro" machine.  

 

2 minutes ago, DrMacintosh said:

I'm yet to see what you have bad to say about it. Just what reviewers have said about it. 

 

 

watch the reviews, it's kinda sad what they did to a well build beast of a machine. 

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6 minutes ago, nerdslayer1 said:

not a small battery computer with hardly any port for a "pro" machine

I think you aren't understanding what the new MacBook Pro is.

 

The new MBP has a smaller battery but gets better performance due to more efficient CPUs and GPUs. But if you use the GPU and CPU under load on battery power it will die like any laptop ever made. 

 

The new MBP has a superior I/O compliment than any MacBook Pro that has ever existed. 4 TB3 ports is far superior and more capable than dedicated USB,Ethernet,HDMI,SD, or any other ports. 

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Just now, DrMacintosh said:

I think you aren't understanding what the new MacBook Pro is.

 

 

no one does 

 

Just now, DrMacintosh said:

The new MBP has a smaller battery but gets better performance due to more efficient CPUs and GPUs. 

 

 

in theory but my 4hr of battery life is lot less than 8hr i get on my old MacBook pro 15 inches. at least watch dave lees video before arguing this. 

 

1 minute ago, DrMacintosh said:

The new MBP has a superior I/O compliment than any MacBook Pro that has ever existed. 4 TB3 ports is far superior and more capable than dedicated USB,HDMI,SD, or any other ports. 

 

dongles are not exactly the best thing, not really worth the "thinness". 

 

i am also really salty about the apple logo, now it looks really ugly.

 

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this looks much better with the glowing logo. 

 

 

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3 minutes ago, nerdslayer1 said:

4hr of battery life

I personally get all day power with my 13" so idk what is going on with that machine. 

 

Dongles take 2 seconds to use. Doesn't matter that they are the most convenient thing in the world, they get the job done while everything else lags behind the curve of USB-C 

 

Salty about the Apple logo? Really? Get over it, its a laptop. 

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Just now, DrMacintosh said:

I personally get all day power with my 13" so idk what is going on with that machine. 

 

 

yes the 13 inch, i am talking about the 15 inch with TB. come on, you are arguing about something you haven't used. watch the reviews atleast, please. 

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4 minutes ago, nerdslayer1 said:

no one does 

Apple and its customers seem to be just fine with it. 

 

Decently powerful machine with solid battery life and an amazing form factor. 

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Just now, DrMacintosh said:

Apple and its customers seem to be just fine with it. 

 

Decently powerful machine with solid battery life and an amazing form factor. 

 

yup facebook sure loads faster 

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Just now, nerdslayer1 said:

yes the 13 inch

which has a smaller battery and a lower wattage CPU and a smaller display. 

 

A MacBook Pro with a dGPU will only use it when its needed so power draw will not be vastly different and neither will battery life. 

 

Theoretically the 15" can get more battery life since the iGPU is weaker than my iGPU and the battery cell is much bigger and only has to power 2 more cores and the slightly bigger screen. 

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2 minutes ago, nerdslayer1 said:

facebook

typical "Macs" are FB machines comment that I would expect from this forum. 

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Just now, DrMacintosh said:

which has a smaller battery and a lower wattage CPU and a smaller display. 

 

A MacBook Pro with a dGPU will only use it when its needed so power draw will not be vastly different and neither will battery life. 

 

Theoretically the 15" can get more battery life since the iGPU is weaker than my iGPU and the battery cell is much bigger and only has to power 2 more cores and the slightly bigger screen. 

 

....no that's not how it works, the touch bar messes up so many things with glitches. in theory lot of things happen i am talking about in practice, before arguing about something you don't got good ideas about please watch the reviews. 

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1 minute ago, DrMacintosh said:

typical "Macs" are FB machines comment that I would expect from this forum. 

yup coming from a 15 inch MacBook owner

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1 minute ago, nerdslayer1 said:

the reviews

The reviews are outdated.

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Just now, DrMacintosh said:

The reviews are outdated.

no they are not, watch them, you are being a fanboy by ignoring evidence. 

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1 minute ago, nerdslayer1 said:

15 inch MacBook

I use the weakest MBP you can buy and It is far from a FB machine. 

 

It might not be as fast as my Desktop PC, but it can actually do real work just fine without any issues. 

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Just now, nerdslayer1 said:

no they are not

Fine me a review of performance after 10.12.4 otherwise the evidence is old. Apple has been on the bug hunt train ever since the MBP was released. 

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Just now, DrMacintosh said:

I use the weakest MBP you can buy and It is far from a FB machine. 

 

It might not be as fast as my Desktop PC, but it can actually do real work just fine without any issues. 

 

nice so a 13 inch non TB owner knows more about a 15 inch maxed out TB user does. 

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2 minutes ago, nerdslayer1 said:

10.12.4 induces bootlooping

I have two Macs running 10.12.4

 

No boot looping. repair your OS. Sounds like it got damaged early on. Probably explains your problems. 

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1 minute ago, DrMacintosh said:

I have two Macs running 10.12.4

 

No boot looping. repair your OS

 
 

you have a 15 inch TB macbook? that is what the article was talking about in terms of boot looping. 

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Just now, nerdslayer1 said:

you have a 15 inch TB macbook? that is what the article was talking about 

You said it causes boot looping. It does not, the TouchBar causes possible boot looping.

 

Repairing or reinstalling the OS is the best way to fix that as it also said in the article. 

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Just now, DrMacintosh said:

You said it causes boot looping. It does not, the TouchBar causes possible boot looping.

 

Repairing or reinstalling the OS is the best way to fix that as it also said in the article. 

 

why should i have to reinstall a OS, my older MacBook doesn't have any problem with the update. 

 

Just now, DrMacintosh said:

You said it causes boot looping. It does not, the TouchBar causes possible boot looping.

 

 

why?

 

1 minute ago, DrMacintosh said:

TouchBar causes possible boot looping.

that's handy

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1 minute ago, nerdslayer1 said:

why should i have to reinstall a OS

Every computer can have its OS fail. This happens a lot on Windows Machines, it can happen to Macs too. Don't know why you would ever think otherwise. 

 

why? Because its a new concept that has never bene tried by Apple and it runs its own version of iOS that runs off its own CPU that is then injected into MacOS. Sometimes things go wrong. 

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Just now, DrMacintosh said:

Every computer can have its OS fail. This happens a lot on Windows Machines, it can happen to Macs too. Don't know why you think otherwise. 

 

why? Because its a new concept that has never bene tried by Apple and it runs its own version of iOS that runs off its own CPU that is then injected into MacOS. Sometimes things go wrong. 

 

very new, its so new razer had done it before with its trackpad. my point still stands OP will be served better with a stable macbook pro 15 inch 2015 model. 

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