Intel tells Core i7-7700K owners to stop overclocking

[Mr.Meerkat]

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In our internal investigation, we did not observe temperature variation outside of the expected behavior and recommended specifications.

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We do not recommend running outside the processor specifications, such as by exceeding processor frequency or voltage specifications, or removing of the integrated heat spreader (sometimes called 'de-lidding'). These actions will void the processor warranty. - Intel

Intel basically shrugged off the temperature spikes as being normal, and telling them to run their unlocked CPUs at stock settings rubs salt in the wound. -PCG

Hmmmm...what can I say? Some people are going to be a tad pissed as they spent more money just to OC? On the bright side they have addressed the poor thermal perf of Kabylake CPUs...by making some people really pissed off  

Anyway, I don't think this will affect intel too much so...meh I guess? 

 

source: http://www.pcgamer.com/intels-tells-core-i7-7700k-owners-to-stop-overclocking-to-avoid-high-temps/?

 

Edit: Fuck, I'm 2 mins late  

 

Second edit: Maybe not, looks like someone hasn't been following guidelines  

[79wjd]

Here, buy this CPU that is identical to a cheaper model but with the ability to overclock.

 

But don't overclock it. 

[Mira Yurizaki]

I'll just say it because someone else will: Intel, stop using crappy TIM underneath the IHS and solder the damn thing to the processor.

[porina]

To quote from the link, an Intel spokesperson is claimed to have said:

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We do not recommend running outside the processor specifications, such as by exceeding processor frequency or voltage specifications, or removing of the integrated heat spreader (sometimes called 'de-lidding'). These actions will void the processor warranty.

I think this is nothing more than generic butt-covering. If Intel were to say "it's fine, do what you want" then when it breaks, they could be liable for that. The stance is nothing more than "you could do it, we don't recommend it, so if you break anything, it is 100% your problem, not ours". That's standard overclocking risks.

 

Basically pcgamer is trying to blow up a non-event into a story.

[79wjd]

2 minutes ago, M.Yurizaki said:

I'll just say it because someone else will: Intel, stop using crappy TIM underneath the IHS and solder the damn thing to the processor.

Supposedly it can't be soldered due to the size as it would cause the die to crack. 

[Castdeath97]

This too retarded to even bother properly responding to...........

[XCalinX]

With the Ryzen 1700 costing pretty much the same, the 7700k is dead to me anyway.

[AntonChigurh]

Just now, XCalinX said:

With the Ryzen 1700 costing pretty much the same, the 7700k is dead to me anyway.

Why? That makes no sense. "Oh I have product X, which performs function A well but not function B. But Product Y performs function B well, but not function A, so Product Y is dead to me."

[WoodenMarker]

1 minute ago, djdwosk97 said:

Supposedly it can't be soldered due to the size as it would cause the die to crack. 

I doubt that it couldn't be soldered but the TIM currently being used is supposed to be more reliable which is beneficial to Intel.

[AntonChigurh]

On 5/4/2017 at 1:41 PM, Mr.Meerkat said:

Hmmmm...what can I say? Some people are going to be a tad pissed as they spent more money just to OC? On the bright side they have addressed the poor thermal perf of Kabylake CPUs...by making some people really pissed off  

Anyway, I don't think this will affect intel too much so...meh I guess? 

 

source: http://www.pcgamer.com/intels-tells-core-i7-7700k-owners-to-stop-overclocking-to-avoid-high-temps/?

 

Edit: Fuck, I'm 2 mins late  

 

Second edit: Maybe not, looks like someone hasn't been following guidelines  

Intel: "Buy our K series CPUs, and Z/X series mobos so you can overclock!"

Consumer: "Sounds cool, I just bought both. I'm gonna give it a light OC to make it run faster"

Intel: "WAIT NO DON'T DO THAT EVEN THOUGH THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT YOU BOUGHT IT FOR YOU'RE GONNA KILL IT M8"

 

GG Intel, you're officially fucking retarded

[RadiatingLight]

5 minutes ago, N1ghtshade said:

Why? That makes no sense. "Oh I have product X, which performs function A well but not function B. But Product Y performs function B well, but not function A, so Product Y is dead to me."

But.. Ryzen is GOOD for gaming.

 

so it's this:

 

Product 1 can do A really well, and B good enough for 99% of people.

Product 2 can do B really well, and is bad for B.

 

 

[AntonChigurh]

10 minutes ago, M.Yurizaki said:

I'll just say it because someone else will: Intel, stop using crappy TIM underneath the IHS and solder the damn thing to the processor.

The Kaby Lake TIM is basically the paste you used at school when you were 5 to make shitty macaroni art.

[AntonChigurh]

1 minute ago, RadiatingLight said:

But.. Ryzen is GOOD for gaming.

 

so it's this:

 

Product 1 can do A really well, and B good enough for 99% of people.

Product 2 can do B really well, and is bad for B.

 

 

Ryzen is decent for gaming, 7700k is better

7700k is decent for productivity stuff, Ryzen is better

 

it's more like this

 

Product 1 does A really well, and does B decently also

Product 2 does B really well, and does A decently also

[MrTiC]

8 minutes ago, N1ghtshade said:

Why? That makes no sense. "Oh I have product X, which performs function A well but not function B. But Product Y performs function B well, but not function A, so Product Y is dead to me."

Then a UNLOCKED CPU doesnt make any sense either

 

You buy an unlocked cpu for 1 thing and 1 thing only .... OVERCLOCKING 

 

 

Edit, NVM i just read youre other posts

[RadiatingLight]

Just now, N1ghtshade said:

Ryzen is decent for gaming, 7700k is better

7700k is decent for productivity stuff, Ryzen is better

 

it's more like this

 

Product 1 does A really well, and does B decently also

Product 2 does B really well, and does A decently also

you can't actualy tell me that a 7700K can edit videos and stream nearly as well as Ryzen 7

but Ryzen 7 can game nearly as well as a 7700K

 

TBH a 1600X would be a better comparison, as it's cheaper, but is higher clocked so it's good for games.

[AntonChigurh]

Just now, MrTiC said:

Then a UNLOCKED CPU doesnt make any sense either

 

You buy an unlocked cpu for 1 thing and 1 thing only .... OVERCLOCKING 

???

 

Where did you get all this from, I was responding to the guy who said that the 7700k was dead to him because of Ryzen

[RadiatingLight]

1 minute ago, MrTiC said:

Then a UNLOCKED CPU doesnt make any sense either

 

You buy an unlocked cpu for 1 thing and 1 thing only .... OVERCLOCKING 

technically the K skus have higher base clocks and boost clocks too

[mattebad]

5 minutes ago, N1ghtshade said:

Why? That makes no sense. "Oh I have product X, which performs function A well but not function B. But Product Y performs function B well, but not function A, so Product Y is dead to me."

Becausse with Product X (Ryzen 1700) you can just overclock it to 4ghz or however high you can get it and call it a day while still having your warranty in tact

 

But with Product Y (7700k) your warranty is voided just by overclocking their unlocked CPU, then if you don't want terrible thermal performance, you need to buy a delidder ($20-$30), liquid metal ($10), knowledge on how to delid and relid or seat in the socket wihtout shifting the cpu. Then you have a faster processor just for gaming. At which point, it doesn't make much sense unless you know how to do all of the above and are willing to do so from the start. For non-enthusiasts and just gamers in general, the 7700k is pretty much equivalent in buying power to the 1700 with a small performance hit, but for less money. It's basically a trade off between the two processors, where one is bought over the other in the above scenario.

[Organized]

2 minutes ago, RadiatingLight said:

Product 1 can do A really well, and B good enough for 99% of people.

Product 2 can do B really well, and is bad for B.

 

 

Product 1 is A for Good and not B

Product 2 is B and not A but A squared

[AntonChigurh]

Just now, RadiatingLight said:

you can't actualy tell me that a 7700K can edit videos and stream nearly as well as Ryzen 7

but Ryzen 7 can game nearly as well as a 7700K

 

TBH a 1600X would be a better comparison, as it's cheaper, but is higher clocked so it's good for games.

No, I cannot. You are correct in that regard. Ryzen is much better for video editing and streaming.

And you can't actually tell me a Ryzen 7 can game nearly as well. 7700k has fewer faster cores. Only in a few cases like BF1 will Ryzen perform the same/better

[AntonChigurh]

Just now, Organized said:

Product 1 is A for Good and not B

Product 2 is B and not A but A squared

What did I just read

That made no sense

1 minute ago, mattebad said:

Becausse with Product X (Ryzen 1700) you can just overclock it to 4ghz or however high you can get it and call it a day while still having your warranty in tact

 

But with Product Y (7700k) your warranty is voided just by overclocking their unlocked CPU, then if you don't want terrible thermal performance, you need to buy a delidder ($20-$30), liquid metal ($10), knowledge on how to delid and relid or seat in the socket wihtout shifting the cpu. Then you have a faster processor just for gaming. At which point, it doesn't make much sense unless you know how to do all of the above and are willing to do so from the start. For non-enthusiasts and just gamers in general, the 7700k is pretty much equivalent in buying power to the 1700 with a small performance hit, but for less money. It's basically a trade off between the two processors, where one is bought over the other in the above scenario.

And you can get good thermal performance on a 7700k, you just need a good cooler. And you don't need a delidder. Delidding is very risky, and not worth it imho.

[Organized]

Just now, N1ghtshade said:

What did I just read

That made no sense

Then you passed the test.

[MrTiC]

3 minutes ago, RadiatingLight said:

technically the K skus have higher base clocks and boost clocks too

True, but i aint gonna pay 10% more for a 1% clock increase 

[AntonChigurh]

Just now, MrTiC said:

True, but i aint gonna pay 10% more for a 1% clock increase 

I suppose it'd be good if you had a non Z/X mobo and wanted a little frequency bump without OC'ing. And K isn't too much more expensive. But still, you're right tbh. If you're not gonna OC, it makes no sense to buy a K CPU

[Prysin]

24 minutes ago, M.Yurizaki said:

I'll just say it because someone else will: Intel, stop using crappy TIM underneath the IHS and solder the damn thing to the processor.

soldering reduces maximum lifespan. Dont believe me? Read up on soldering.