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Posted · Original PosterOP

Hello everyone!

 

I'm selling my Razer Mamba TE and need some advice of what to buy next. Can you give me some advice of which gaming mouse to buy? My budget is 50 euro max. I was thinking about something from Logitech, since I really like the shape of those and that's what made me sell Mamba. I don't need 18k DPI, seriously, who does. 

 

To sum things up. I'm looking for an advice for a gaming mouse. Budget 50 euro. Wired. I definitely don't want it to be wireless. Preferably as similar in shape to Logitec G502 as it is possible.

 

Thanks in advance. 


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3 minutes ago, Marine_Boy said:

Hello everyone!

 

I'm selling my Razer Mamba TE and need some advice of what to buy next. Can you give me some advice of which gaming mouse to buy? My budget is 50 euro max. I was thinking about something from Logitech, since I really like the shape of those and that's what made me sell Mamba. I don't need 18k DPI, seriously, who does. 

 

To sum things up. I'm looking for an advice for a gaming mouse. Budget 50 euro. Wired. I definitely don't want it to be wireless. Preferably as similar in shape to Logitec G502 as it is possible.

 

Thanks in advance. 

Buy a g502 if you like it.

 


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Just now, pbx2 said:

Buy a g502 if you like it.

 

Unfortunately, I couldn't find it for 50 euro :/ 


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1 minute ago, Marine_Boy said:

Unfortunately, I couldn't find it for 50 euro :/ 

Save more then, i am pretty sure the g502 is one of a kind.


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Logitech 502 and 602 would be my recommendations. Amazon seems to have them right above 50, at 54, if you can squeeze out a bit extra. Otherwise, they have used options within your budget.

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g402 is basically a g502 with less features, the g402 is nice


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33 minutes ago, Marine_Boy said:

Hello everyone!

 

I'm selling my Razer Mamba TE and need some advice of what to buy next. Can you give me some advice of which gaming mouse to buy? My budget is 50 euro max. I was thinking about something from Logitech, since I really like the shape of those and that's what made me sell Mamba. I don't need 18k DPI, seriously, who does. 

 

To sum things up. I'm looking for an advice for a gaming mouse. Budget 50 euro. Wired. I definitely don't want it to be wireless. Preferably as similar in shape to Logitec G502 as it is possible.

 

Thanks in advance. 

g402 is just a cheaper version of the g502 with a few less features


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Just now, 19_blackie_73 said:

g402 is basically a g502 with less features, the g402 is nice

you just barely posted this before me lol


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Posted · Original PosterOP
28 minutes ago, L.Lawliet said:

G402

2 minutes ago, 19_blackie_73 said:

g402

2 minutes ago, SlipperyPete said:

g402

Hmm... Indeed it is really similar :) I will check this one out :) Thanks guys! 

 


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1 hour ago, Aytex said:

Cheaper and worse sensor against the 502

"worse"

well, i used the g402 and I don't think this sentence does justice what this sensor is capable off. I highly doubt that anybody normal will feel a difference between the two, they are both on a very high level


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I'll admit to being a PC snob, not quite PCMR but definitely snob. Alas i just don't care about gaming mice, i've used a £5 microsoft wired mouse one after the other for like 5 years now, and still frequently win multiplayer CSS. 

 

IMO if you suck at FPS games, it's not your mouse :)


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Posted · Original PosterOP
13 hours ago, DnFx91 said:

IMO if you suck at FPS games, it's not your mouse :)

I don't play FPS games ;) But I wouldn't buy 5 euro MS mouse because of it's shape. I got an HPone at work and it was so terrible I had to bring my spare one from home. The buttons were weird, like you've had to press them really hard. The shape wasn't ergonomic at all, and even tho i use a mouse mat the precision was terrible... Now I use Trust GXT 152 instead of the HP one and it's not perfect, but it is like a million times better :) 


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23 minutes ago, Marine_Boy said:

I don't play FPS games ;) But I wouldn't buy 5 euro MS mouse because of it's shape.

This. I would always rattle on and on about various peripherals, but then at the end, my advice would always be: Go down to a store and get a feel of them if you can. Different strokes for different folks. A mouse may fit my hand but feel like a hedgehog in yours. You may like that plasticky feeling, or prefer a heftier, more solid version. Your hand may be big, may be small. It all depends.

 

Long story short, I've been through my fair share of mice. G502, Mamba, Sensei, Rival 500, G302, Some 10 Dollar mouse, etc. I find the 502 a great buy. It's contours and buttons fit perfectly in my hands, and clicks and sensors are all not only precise, but durable (except mine has succumbed to left click double click). The 402 has a similar shape to the 502, so I'd expect it to feel just as good. If you can find the G502 at a second hand price, I'm sure it will satisfy your budget. However, when I first read this, my mind was wondering: Why sell off the Mamba TE?

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1 hour ago, valkarian said:

Why sell off the Mamba TE?

It's mostly because of the shape. I really don't like it. It doesn't fit in my hand as I would like it to. It's a good mice, but I don't like it. Also, It doesn't feel as solid as I would expect it from a mice for 90 euro. My girlfriend has a 15 euro Trust GXT 101 ant it feels a lot better than Mamba. At least for me. I was using her's GXT 101 for a while and it was more satisfying than Mamba. 

 

Just as you said:

1 hour ago, valkarian said:

Different strokes for different folks.

;) 


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2 hours ago, woll3 said:

 

Which in itself means nothing, CS mapdesign also lets you get away with low malfunction speeds.

Not true. My roccat kone pure optical spins out in game. The argument is still  void because his anecdote is meaningless in terms of the quality of the mouse he's using.

 

@Marine_Boy Nixeus revel/dream machines dm1 pro S. Unless it HAS to be the g502 shape then the g402 would be a good choice.

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7 minutes ago, lw88 said:

Not true. My roccat kone pure optical spins out in game.

 

Which is probably due to surface compatibility, Roccats A3090 are finicky due to the chosen LED´s, for me it only worked perfectly on the Taito and Goliathus Control.(they do improve accuracy though)

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20 hours ago, Aytex said:

Cheaper and worse sensor against the 502

like i said cheaper and lacking features

also the g502 has a worse sensor than the g900 but i wouldnt call the g502s sensor bad


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57 minutes ago, SlipperyPete said:

also the g502 has a worse sensor than the g900 but i wouldnt call the g502s sensor bad

No they dont?

They both use the G502 and G900 both use a Pixart 3366 sensor, which is the 3360 but with logitech's little tweak on it..

(502, 303, 403, and G pro all use the same sensor)

Roccat does it, with the 3361, and Corsair with the 3367..

402 however uses a Am010 sensor, Its not bad its just that you might as well just get a 3366 

 

With that being said, and OP not really into FPS games where sensors may matter to you.

Just get whatever fits your hand the best.

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44 minutes ago, Aytex said:

No they dont?

They both use the G502 and G900 both use a Pixart 3366 sensor, which is the 3360 but with logitech's little tweak on it..

(502, 303, 403, and G pro all use the same sensor)

Roccat does it, with the 3361, and Corsair with the 3367..

402 however uses a Am010 sensor, Its not bad its just that you might as well just get a 3366 

 

With that being said, and OP not really into FPS games where sensors may matter to you.

Just get whatever fits your hand the best.

my bad. shoulda checked my facts. i thought i remembered the g900 having a slightly better sensor. My apologies to you. My mistake :)


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I am sporting a corsair M65 Pro and I love it to pieces, I can compare it to an xbox elite controller. I use it for PUBG, Division, BF4

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8 hours ago, woll3 said:

 

Which in itself means nothing, CS mapdesign also lets you get away with low malfunction speeds.

i knew i would pull the "elite" CSS players out of the woodwork with that comment. That's irrelevant man get over yourself


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8 hours ago, valkarian said:

This. I would always rattle on and on about various peripherals, but then at the end, my advice would always be: Go down to a store and get a feel of them if you can. Different strokes for different folks. A mouse may fit my hand but feel like a hedgehog in yours. You may like that plasticky feeling, or prefer a heftier, more solid version. Your hand may be big, may be small. It all depends.

 

Long story short, I've been through my fair share of mice. G502, Mamba, Sensei, Rival 500, G302, Some 10 Dollar mouse, etc. I find the 502 a great buy. It's contours and buttons fit perfectly in my hands, and clicks and sensors are all not only precise, but durable (except mine has succumbed to left click double click). The 402 has a similar shape to the 502, so I'd expect it to feel just as good. If you can find the G502 at a second hand price, I'm sure it will satisfy your budget. However, when I first read this, my mind was wondering: Why sell off the Mamba TE?

I agree, had a friend get the G602 and not like it after coming from tons of Razer mice but i tried it and fell in love, the thing fits my hand well, has the heft i need in a good mouse, and my favorite adjustable sensitivity so when i switch between 2 games i can change it real quick and not have to worry about going deep into the settings to adjust every game individually when my steam library is 70+ games

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