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refinedskillz

A social question.

18 hours ago, refinedskillz said:

Im 16 - nearly 17, and have never drunken alcohol before. There is a massive party coming up soon, and im invited, should i go or not? I know my friends are gonna make me drink, but i have this fear of damaging my body.

I wouldn't drink at a "massive party" my first time. Maybe with a half dozen friends you really trust. Your first time, you aren't going to know your limit or how to pace yourself. Plus you don't want to be "that guy" who completely kills the buzz of a party because its obviously your first time being drunk and you're being annoying about it. Then you end up puking everywhere and further aggravating people. 

 

Been there, done that. Not fun. Especially with cheap vodka. 

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You people encouraging under age drinking are breaking the law and asking for tragedy. How many kids have to pay the price for stupidity? There are good scientific reasons drinking under 21 is not legal. There are also good common sense reasons. Any person who says committing a crime is ok is a POS who will likely get your arse in trouble. any person encouraging children into acts that lead to tragedy is a POS.

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1 minute ago, SamStrecker said:

Right, or you can pro long your life so you can live to the fullest

Sounds boring.


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If you don't want to drink, don't drink. I don't think anyone rational is going to give you a hard time for not wanting to drink. Plus, as a sober person, you can ensure that your friends don't fuck up.

 

Personally, as an Australian, I haven't had any mishaps with drinking underage but that's because I didn't drink excessively. Usually beers are fine but the spirits will probably be your downfall.


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- If you just say that you don't want a drink people won't pressure you (they're assholes if they do)

 

- If you can't taste the alcohol, don't drink it. 

 

- If you don't want to get drunk but still want to fit in, beers are good since you can nurse one for a long time and obviously there's less alcohol then vodka or something

 

 

 

Although breaking the law will obviously carry risks, alcohol isn't some magic substance just because you're not allowed to drink it. Just like sugar and caffeine has effects, alcohol does too, and like sugar and caffeine, too much is bad for you. So remember the law but just use common sense


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Well, typically I'd say don't drink. So many bad outcomes from it.

 

 

Buuuuut

 

Some of my best life stories come from nights of drinking. Lots of memories I wouldn't have had and frankly a lot of choices I made under the influence ended up letting me meet someone rather important. *cough* (alcohol helps with confidence and I dated this really awesome girl for a while bc I got drunk and asked her out)

 

Then again, I have an equal amount of bad stories and memories associated with alcohol.

 

 

So yeah, don't drink.


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8 hours ago, refinedskillz said:

Im 16 - nearly 17, and have never drunken alcohol before. There is a massive party coming up soon, and im invited, should i go or not? I know my friends are gonna make me drink, but i have this fear of damaging my body.

You should definately go

You wont be damaging your body if you dont drink in excess

Just go and have fun, experience new things, dont be afraid of alcohol, embrace it.

 

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Im 16 - nearly 17, and have never drunken alcohol before. There is a massive party coming up soon, and im invited, should i go or not? I know my friends are gonna make me drink, but i have this fear of damaging my body.

 

So much has been discussed in this thread and I wanted to chip in with my own two cents in answering the original poster.

 

Based on tried and true, unbiased medical research, personal experience and common sense;

 

Your body actually needs alcohol to function, but however much it requires, it makes on its own. Any additional quantity is detrimental to your liver and your brain cells. 

 

Depending on your daily lifestyle and your healthy habits, plus genetic predisposition, your body will have a very wide variety of reactions to the alcohol and its type being consumed. You can be super lightweight and blow chunks of what you have had prior to your party all over your friends, or you might end up having a naturally high tolerance and be able to manage your own.  

 

Either way, at your age, your body will soon adapt since you are still growing and that is what a young body does when introduced to elements of stress compared to say a 27-year-old. All the physical damage you are inflicting to your organs aside, drinking at your age can be a slippery slope to a lingering dependency at an older age, if not full alcoholism. As with any other form of substance abuse, alcohol soon turns into an escape from the difficulties of life which you will inevitably face an ever increasing number of as you grow older. The immediate accessibility of alcohol around pretty much any corner these days will only go further in fueling your addiction to it by the time you are legally allowed to purchase it freely.

 

As a person who has never had alcohol before, you might want to make sure that your first time exposure to it is in a safe environment and preferably with a close friend or family member as opposed to a party where peer pressure might force you into doing something you are forever going to regret, and probably be remembered by among your friends for.

 

When it comes to drinking and how it affects you, you might want to watch this short excerpt from The Legend of Bagger Vance movie. This is the best short description of drinking I have ever seen put in a film in my entire life.

 

 

Hope that helped you some young man, and do enjoy your party.

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Drinking a bit is not even a problem dont drink like two bottles at once. And if they're really your "FRIENDS" they wont force you to do anything. And if you don't really wanna go you can just say so.


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Op you asked the wrong forum, look at all these answers lmao. Your only 17 once and these parties aren't as fun when your older so make the most of it while you can. Just go have fun don't stress about it. Nothing bad is going to happen to your body over one night of drinking.

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18 hours ago, refinedskillz said:

Im 16 - nearly 17, and have never drunken alcohol before. There is a massive party coming up soon, and im invited, should i go or not? I know my friends are gonna make me drink, but i have this fear of damaging my body.

I wouldn't drink at a "massive party" my first time. Maybe with a half dozen friends you really trust. Your first time, you aren't going to know your limit or how to pace yourself. Plus you don't want to be "that guy" who completely kills the buzz of a party because its obviously your first time being drunk and you're being annoying about it. Then you end up puking everywhere and further aggravating people. 

 

Been there, done that. Not fun. Especially with cheap vodka. 


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13 hours ago, Conan1600 said:

You people encouraging under age drinking are breaking the law and asking for tragedy. How many kids have to pay the price for stupidity? There are good scientific reasons drinking under 21 is not legal. There are also good common sense reasons. Any person who says committing a crime is ok is a POS who will likely get your arse in trouble. any person encouraging children into acts that lead to tragedy is a POS.

No, there is not a "scientific reason" for not being allowed to drink under 21. We're allowed to drink when we're 16, yet our average life expectancy is higher than in the US? Not to mention nobody gives a fuck if you drink a beer here when you're younger than 16.

All of you should stop acting like underage drinking leads to heroin or cocaine, lmao.

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5 hours ago, Wano1997 said:

No, there is not a "scientific reason" for not being allowed to drink under 21. We're allowed to drink when we're 16, yet our average life expectancy is higher than in the US? Not to mention nobody gives a fuck if you drink a beer here when you're younger than 16.

All of you should stop acting like underage drinking leads to heroin or cocaine, lmao.

your brain is not finished developing until you hit 20-22. alcohol is shown to inhibit development. you stating otherwise shows you have a bit of impairment yourself. Just 1 night of drinking can cause irreversible brain damage. in other words you may not ever develop to your potential because of 1 stupid decision.

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=122765890 .

that article will start you out if you are actually smart enough to read it. a google search will lead you to tons of mayo clinic research as well as 1000s more. and it isn't just the damage you do to yourself physically kid.

Many teen drinking episodes lead to death in many ways, or a life of shit

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I can't tell you whether you should or shouldn't but if you do and if you do end up drinking tell them you just don't want to get completely wasted and just don't let them try and make you get totally drunk...also, drinking games are probably worth avoiding because they can get you really drunk really quickly without you even realising it, especially if you've never drunk before.

 

I'm assuming they all drink and they want to get you drunk, right?

 

But if you really don't want to drink then just stick to your guns and don't drink...if they're good enough friends it shouldn't matter if you just prefer to stay sober.

I drank a lot in high-school, and I've always regretted getting into all of that stuff...I just wish I never had. It might be something you should trust your instinct on if you feel like you want to avoid it, especially if it's going to effect stuff like grades and future prospects and all of that stuff. Sometimes it's best to wait for college for all of that stuff, otherwise you might never get there.


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13 hours ago, Conan1600 said:

your brain is not finished developing until you hit 20-22. alcohol is shown to inhibit development. you stating otherwise shows you have a bit of impairment yourself. Just 1 night of drinking can cause irreversible brain damage. in other words you may not ever develop to your potential because of 1 stupid decision.

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=122765890 .

that article will start you out if you are actually smart enough to read it. a google search will lead you to tons of mayo clinic research as well as 1000s more. and it isn't just the damage you do to yourself physically kid.

Many teen drinking episodes lead to death in many ways, or a life of shit

>Implies I'm not smart enough to read an article, thinks I have an inpairment, calls me a kid.

Yep, definitely triggered. Only abusive drinking behavior can lead to death. Unless the "kid" starts chugging a bottle of wodka, I don't see the problem.

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First, assume where you live under 21 is legal for consuming alcohol.  If not, don't participate. 

 

If you have never had an alcoholic beverage, then going to a party where you believe there's a likelihood your friends are going to want you to drink is not a good idea.  Your first time needs to be much smaller scale, limited, and with someone responsible to make sure things don't get out of hand.  Also matters whether you are drinking beer, wine or liqour.  At this point you have no idea what your limit is.

 

Moderate alcohol consumption won't destroy your liver or brain, and in fact can actually have some health benefits. But alcohol consumption combined with eating can create a gut, which has it's own negative effects.

 

Your other option is to learn to like something like cranberry juice or seltzer water, and never drink alcohol. That's a personal choice.  Nothing wrong with that at all. 

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You should definitely go, definitely. If you drink, you drink and that's fine.

 

Going to parties is just a part of adult life so I'd recommend going, your life will be better with parties than without

On ‎30‎/‎04‎/‎2017 at 3:59 AM, SamStrecker said:

You think being dead is over dramatized?

Ye but it's a long-term effect. When you're young it's fine but when you get older you start noticing things like beer bellies and fatty livers. 

People that make stupid decisions are stupid themselves but we all make mistakes and part of life is knowing your limits, making mistakes and bouncing back.

On ‎30‎/‎04‎/‎2017 at 3:59 AM, Conan1600 said:

You people encouraging under age drinking are breaking the law and asking for tragedy. How many kids have to pay the price for stupidity?

I started drinking at 14, now 23, don't regret a single time. I've had a great, fulfilled life and it is in part thanks to some amazing times I've shared with alcohol. My happiest memories are at parties or in the park or in night clubs, imo underage drinking was the best decision I made.

Besides, having the drinking age at 21 is completely idiotic. It encourages teenagers to drink mouthwash or meths. It encourages black markets for alcohol and it results in teenagers buying drugs instead. A dealer isn't going to ask for ID. 18 I think is the right drinking age.

On ‎30‎/‎04‎/‎2017 at 4:07 AM, SamStrecker said:

Right, or you can pro long your life so you can live to the fullest

My grandparents are all in their nineties. They don't go out of their homes and are trapped in their bodies, waiting to die. I'd much rather being dead at 70 having lived an excellent life than being dead at 100 having done shit all and led a mediocre life. We all have the freedom to make these choices for ourselves though, what tickles my pickle mayn't tickle yours.

On ‎30‎/‎04‎/‎2017 at 11:49 AM, EasonIDontKnowAnything said:

if they're really your "FRIENDS" they wont force you to do anything

Yes they will, true friends peer pressure and egg on, true friends don't pussyfoot around shit like this.

54 minutes ago, RocketFarmer said:

Moderate alcohol consumption won't destroy your liver or brain, and in fact can actually have some health benefits. But alcohol consumption combined with eating can create a gut, which has it's own negative effects

Moderate alcohol consumption is bad for you, all alcohol consumption is bad for you. When people say that a glass of wine a day can reduce the chance of heart attacks, they're correct. Thing is that you can get the exact same compounds in the same quantities from a handful of blueberries without consuming poisonous alcohol. Alcohol really has no health benefits, ingesting it is bad for you no matter what quantity.

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2 hours ago, Wano1997 said:

>Implies I'm not smart enough to read an article, thinks I have an inpairment, calls me a kid.

Yep, definitely triggered. Only abusive drinking behavior can lead to death. Unless the "kid" starts chugging a bottle of wodka, I don't see the problem.

Obviously you didn't read the article or you would be educated enough to know it isn't abuse, the mere presence of alcohol in the blood stream supplying the brain is enough and again, it is a CRIME! you have asked a child to commit a crime which shows you to be not so smart. i only pointed it out. your stubborn resistance to danger and truth show you to be either a child or the worlds most worthless adult, i am giving you the benefit of the doubt by calling you a child, perhaps you are an adult with a child like attitude.

 

Any responsible adult would never encourage underage drinking knowing the risks involved. to do so shows a lack of morality and concern for welfare.

 

If the kid goes that is his choice but as an adult i made him aware of the dangers involved. If you are an adult and are doing the opposite you deserve much worse than the scorn i could heap on you. In fact that could also be considered contributing to the delinquency of a minor which is also a crime. encouraging a crime is a crime buddy.

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1 hour ago, Mug said:

 

I started drinking at 14, now 23, don't regret a single time. I've had a great, fulfilled life and it is in part thanks to some amazing times I've shared with alcohol. My happiest memories are at parties or in the park or in night clubs, imo underage drinking was the best decision I made.

You assume everyone is lucky, they are not and statistics for underage drinking bear that out as did my own life experience. There are too many deaths, too many lives started and ended on the wrong path. You will never know what your full potential was mentally as you would not notice your damage, you simply would not be as nimble, how much or even if there is damage is a roulette game. I can tell you bad decisions often lead to many more. i can tell you lots but until you decide to educate yourself it wouldn't help. People rarely listen and even less often bother to learn for themselves. 

 

One last thing to ALL OF YOU PEOPLE advocating underage drinking. If the op or any child at that party drinks and is harmed mentally or physically or for that matter any child who ever reads your posts and is encouraged to drink, their blood is on your hands.

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All the statistics of young people dying or getting brain damage from alcohol are from people who are idiots and are getting completely smashed every day. 2 beers will give enough kick that you aren't completely sober but you're still completely able to think clearly (at least for me, you might be lightweight). Also, alcohol doesn't suddenly become less harmful when you become 18, nor when you're 21 (21 is a dumb drinking age). You need to learn your limits 

 

 

edit: I feel like OP left xD 


That's an F in the profile pic

 

 

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4 hours ago, Froody129 said:

All the statistics of young people dying or getting brain damage from alcohol are from people who are idiots and are getting completely smashed every day. 2 beers will give enough kick that you aren't completely sober but you're still completely able to think clearly (at least for me, you might be lightweight). Also, alcohol doesn't suddenly become less harmful when you become 18, nor when you're 21 (21 is a dumb drinking age). You need to learn your limits 

 

 

edit: I feel like OP left xD 

Im still here, just readin on the comments. :)


 

 

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Posted · Original PosterOP

Everyone here has made great points and ive come to the basic decision of drinkin a little, but not too much. Thanks everyone!


 

 

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10 hours ago, Conan1600 said:

One last thing to ALL OF YOU PEOPLE advocating underage drinking. If the op or any child at that party drinks and is harmed mentally or physically or for that matter any child who ever reads your posts and is encouraged to drink, their blood is on your hands.

And one would hope that he had a great time.


I could go out my front door and get mugged, if you don't take risks in life you don't get anywhere. Like today for example, I went for a walk for an hour, it was lovely. Went through some really dodgy places but now my mind is clear. It was worth the risks. 

There are always things that you can do to avoid getting mugged; I for one dress exactly like a drug dealer. Similarly, there are things that the OP can do to not come to harm drinking such as knowing how much they've drunk and not drinking too much at once.

 

What kind of quality of life would one have if one didn't do things because of slight risks?

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