Cores in processor

[apaar123]

How many cores processor do I really need out of 4,6,8,10 to do if I will be doing heavy gaming, editing and sometimes streaming? Do I really need processor with 6 or 8 or 10 cores or i7 7700k is enough for me? Also who really needs these processors.?

[Wrb]

7700k for just gaming but if you are doing streaming as well you need the cores and threads so i sugest you get ryzen 7 1700 or 1700X. If you want intel remember 4 or maybe 6 cores for just gaming, 6 or 8 cores for gaming and streaming.

[HKZeroFive]

Your questions on whether you need the extra cores are entirely subjective. From a neutral viewpoint, more cores and threads would be beneficial in multithreaded tasks such as streaming and editing.

 

If you're gaming, streaming and editing, I suggest you get the R7 1700 instead of the i7 7700K.

[Rohime]

1 minute ago, Wrb said:

7700k for just gaming but if you are doing streaming as well you need the cores and threads so get ryzen 7 1700 or 1700X.

in reality its never that black / white.

My 7700k will cope fine with gaming @1440p/100fps+ and streaming at 720p/60fps or 1080p/30fps

BUT ... it does struggle once i approach 1080p/60fps.

[samcool55]

You have cores, and you have threads. They aren't the same.

Linus has a video about hyperthreading on youtube, google is your friend

AMD has an equivalent in ryzen cpu's called Simultaneous multithreading btw.

 

If you game + stream, more cores and threads help because it's a very scaleable workload and more cores usually equals more raw power so with a more scaleable workload you can easily use the extra raw power.

 

If you want to know who uses 20+ core cpu's. A lot of people.

Science for example has very scaleable workloads, they can basically use an infinite amount of cores  Think about protein folding, predicting weather, analyzing earth to figure out where to dig etc etc.

 

Same thing goes for the entertainment industry. CGI, animation movies like frozen. All digital that gets rendered by cpu's. (gpu's can help but that's another story)

I think it's dreamworks but i can be wrong but they even go as far as when it's night and nobody is there the computers from employees are added to the render pool and they support the renderfarm during the night. It's more efficient and employees won't even know.

[19_blackie_73]

9 minutes ago, apaar123 said:

Also who really needs these processors.?

well for professional workloads it's really helpful to have more cores, for example calculations, FEA, CAD, video production, animation, rendering, stuff like that.

for editing spreadsheets and browsing the web a pentium is enough, in this case you don't need that cores

[apaar123]

So will i7 -6800k or 6850k will be good and better than 7700k?

[rip]

1 minute ago, apaar123 said:

So will i7 -6800k or 6850k will be good and better than 7700k?

Most games tends to favor single threaded performance in which 7700k wins it all. So not really.

[apaar123]

4 minutes ago, rip said:

Most games tends to favor single threaded performance in which 7700k wins it all. So not really.

Ohh but what if am streaming too simultaneously

[AndersT2]

Find some benchmarks in the game types you like to play, and find out how much they depend on the CPU. If gaming is the no 1 priority, go for a 4core (I5 or I7) with fast speeds.

And with editing, find som benchmarks and find out about how much slower a 4core with 4 or 8 threads is compared to one with more core and threads. The rendering times might not be that much longer, that getting slower games is worth it.

 

The Intel 7600K and 7700K are good at all of it. Streaming will slow down games alittle anyway, if you don't have an old PC you can use to capture and stream from.

[SeanAngelo]

18 minutes ago, apaar123 said:

How many cores processor do I really need out of 4,6,8,10 to do if I will be doing heavy gaming, editing and sometimes streaming? Do I really need processor with 6 or 8 or 10 cores or i7 7700k is enough for me? Also who really needs these processors.?

to put it simply, if you need to do them tasks, i'd go for a Ryzen 7 1700 or 1700X

 

5 minutes ago, apaar123 said:

So will i7 -6800k or 6850k will be good and better than 7700k?

not really, the 7700k has better single thread performance, which games like. just because it has more cores doesn't mean it's better. from a price to performance standpoint, the Ryzen 7 would be the best for your usage.

 

Just now, apaar123 said:

Ohh but what if am streaming too simultaneously

 the 7700k will be fine for streaming but it depends on your stream settings.

[AndersT2]

2 minutes ago, apaar123 said:

Ohh but what if am streaming too simultaneously

I think I saw a video about it not long ago, where it was 5-10% capasity, and if your games are GPU dependent, it won't be that bad on the CPU. And if you have a newer Nvidia card, they have build in streaming stuff, which don't use much capasity, since it's a dedicated encoder on it.

[apaar123]

5 minutes ago, SeanAngelo said:

to put it simply, if you need to do them tasks, i'd go for a Ryzen 7 1700 or 1700X

 

not really, the 7700k has better single thread performance, which games like. just because it has more cores doesn't mean it's better. from a price to performance standpoint, the Ryzen 7 would be the best for your usage.

 

 the 7700k will be fine for streaming but it depends on your stream settings.

Probably 1080 60fps

[apaar123]

3 minutes ago, huilun02 said:

Get the R7 1700

Or 1800? But how well do they perform in editing and games?

[SeanAngelo]

6 minutes ago, apaar123 said:

Probably 1080 60fps

save the cash and get an r7 1700 or 1700x instead. as for gaming, they're similar. i'd get the 1700x

 

 

[apaar123]

2 minutes ago, SeanAngelo said:

save the cash and get an r7 1700 or 1700x instead. as for gaming, they're similar. i'd get the 1700x

 

 

Well I can save for 1800x too if its worth it 

[lawrencep93]

It depends on the application

 

For example most gaming will do better on a higher clock quad core.

 

Where as like what I do, a 6 core or more would be better when rendering video

[SeanAngelo]

Just now, apaar123 said:

Well I can save for 1800x too if its worth it 

i'd watch reviews and see if you think it's worth it. i personally don't think it is. but that's for you to decide.

[apaar123]

2 minutes ago, SeanAngelo said:

i'd watch reviews and see if you think it's worth it. i personally don't think it is. but that's for you to decide.

Well I want a CPU which is perfect for everything I mentioned. Will 1700x/1800x be good for heavy gaming

[apaar123]

4 minutes ago, huilun02 said:

If you want to stream 1080p60 while gaming, R7 1700/1700X is the best bang for your buck from the acceptable options

1700X has higher TDP and voltage limit, if you want to push OC

Yeah but steaming is my last priority. My first two priority are gaming and editing 

[SeanAngelo]

1 hour ago, apaar123 said:

Well I want a CPU which is perfect for everything I mentioned. Will 1700x/1800x be good for heavy gaming

the 1700x is fine for gaming.

[apaar123]

1 minute ago, SeanAngelo said:

the 1700x is fine for gaming.

Alright my last question is that is I have to buy an am4 motherboard so are ryzen CPU as future proof like Intel?