Corsair Air 740 vs 780T

[rudolf]

Hey,

After reviewing a lot of different cases that are nice (e.g nxzt n450 or phanteks evo etc.) I stick between Corsair 740 and 780T in terms of cooling. I want to save the place by removing the driver cages for 5.25 that nobody should need in todays time anymore. Instead that space you should install better cooling.

 

Can you recommend me what would be the better choice. Can anyone compare and give a recommendation?

I guess the 780T is more worse for cooling because its bigger. 740 is made for cooling and you can install additional cooler that you cant with 780T. But someone a cube is not so much nice in look and feel than something like 780T.

 

What is your opinion? 

[Shiv78]

What parts are you putting in there? 780T is a much older case and therefore suffers from lack of features such as PSU hiding but is also huge.

Air 740 is my pick

[rudolf]

Just now, Shiv78 said:

What parts are you putting in there? 780T is a much older case and therefore suffers from lack of features such as PSU hiding but is also huge.

Air 740 is my pick

Good to know that its old. How to get the historical order of cases? At the original page its not possible to sort by creation date. I guess the most recent is the most best in general (because of continues improving). 

 

I have something in this direction:

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-7700K 4.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($338.34 @ OutletPC) 
CPU Cooler: Corsair H115i 104.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($121.99 @ NCIX US) 
Motherboard: MSI Z270 GAMING PRO CARBON ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($133.98 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LED 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR4-2666 Memory  ($259.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Samsung 960 EVO 500GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($246.98 @ NCIX US) 
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($48.25 @ OutletPC) 
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($48.25 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Video Card  ($399.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: Corsair Air 740 ATX Full Tower Case  ($139.99 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: Corsair 1000W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($179.99 @ Newegg) 
Total: $1917.75
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-04-27 19:40 EDT-0400

 

 

[Shiv78]

9 minutes ago, rudolf said:

How to get the historical order of cases?

Just google "case name" release date and look for articles about the release of a new case

[WoodenMarker]

They're both unnecessarily large for the components you're using. Why are you looking at these cases in particular? What are you looking for in a case?

[rudolf]

Why are they large? 740 is for max atx. I have an atx mainboard. In the future maybe I add more 3.5 storages. But basically this its, what can you add more into a computer?

 

In the past I have suffered with loud fans and bad cooling so that I want to eliminate this issue for long time. Also overcloacking can be a subject in the future. I would like to use a case with the best airflow possible. What I dont like in current cases in general are the driver bays. Nobody need them. They are legancy (at least for me). If you need data you can use a usb stick. You have already sticks with 16GB. Nobody need CD-Roms and all that stuff anymore. So if I do the effort to build a computer, why should I buy a case that waste important space with such things? Also it makes cooling more difficult, because it slow down the airflow.

 

Why 740 in particular? I have seen reviews about a lot of cases, many of them are good, but most of them use driver bays, expect good marks like nxzt and phanteks do not. 740 looks the best because it provides more space for fans, that mean better cooling. These are the main reasons, no driver bays (special design for it) and more space for cooling, means more fans and less noises.

 

SLI and second GPU I would never buy and use. I dont think its the money worth.

 

Performance and Silence are for me the main issues. 

 

I would appriciate if you give me some advises if you have, also in the selection of my components. Its my first computer build from the ground up basically

[Shiv78]

54 minutes ago, rudolf said:

In the past I have suffered with loud fans and bad cooling so that I want to eliminate this issue for long time. Also overcloacking can be a subject in the future. I would like to use a case with the best airflow possible. What I dont like in current cases in general are the driver bays. Nobody need them. They are legancy (at least for me). If you need data you can use a usb stick. You have already sticks with 16GB. Nobody need CD-Roms and all that stuff anymore. So if I do the effort to build a computer, why should I buy a case that waste important space with such things? Also it makes cooling more difficult, because it slow down the airflow.

 

Sounds like a N450, H440, or a Phanteks Enthoo Pro or Enthoo Evolv is a much better solution for you tbh

also they have 256GB+ USB sticks lol

[rudolf]

Can you give also some arguments why they should be better?

I guess n450 is newer than h440, right? So if nxzt then the most recent is n450 I guess, I would chose.

Phanteks is also not bad, it would be my second choices after corsair.

[Shiv78]

30 minutes ago, rudolf said:

I guess n450 is newer than h440, right? So if nxzt then the most recent is n450 I guess, I would chose.

 

n450 is a h440 with different panels and LED underlighting. Chassis is same.

 

[WoodenMarker]

2 hours ago, rudolf said:

Why are they large? 740 is for max atx. I have an atx mainboard. In the future maybe I add more 3.5 storages. But basically this its, what can you add more into a computer?

In the past I have suffered with loud fans and bad cooling so that I want to eliminate this issue for long time. Also overcloacking can be a subject in the future. I would like to use a case with the best airflow possible.

Why 740 in particular? I have seen reviews about a lot of cases, many of them are good, but most of them use driver bays, expect good marks like nxzt and phanteks do not. 740 looks the best because it provides more space for fans, that mean better cooling. These are the main reasons, no driver bays (special design for it) and more space for cooling, means more fans and less noises.

SLI and second GPU I would never buy and use. I dont think its the money worth.

A case doesn't stop being large just because it supports matx and atx. The 900D for example is a case that supports the same form factors but is vastly larger than other cases that support the same form factor. The Air 740 isn't as large as the 900D but it's still a full tower and larger than most mid towers. The 780T on the other hand is much larger than necessary and doesn't provide much better fan mount options.

 

For a single graphics cards and cpu, 2-3 case fans for intake/exhaust should already be plenty and most mid towers are perfectly adequate for this. A 120/140mm rear exhaust and the 280mm AIO for front intake would be enough.

If you're looking for a compact case, the S340, 400C, or Define C do a better job that the Air 740 albeit with less cooling options.

I suggest seeing how the stock fans perform before deciding on whether or not to buy new ones if you do go with the Air 740.

1 hour ago, rudolf said:

Can you give also some arguments why they should be better?

I guess n450 is newer than h440, right? So if nxzt then the most recent is n450 I guess, I would chose.

Recent doesn't mean better. Newer cases are often just different as opposed to just being better. The N450 and H440 share the same frame with different plastic designs for the front and top. The main difference is that the N450 is less restrictive due to the mesh.