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1 hour ago, zMeul said:

so .. he's ditching the utterly stupid idea of vacuum overground tube

He never planned on implementing it himself, but he has held competitions for building hyperloop prototype pods.

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11 minutes ago, DildorTheDecent said:

You stick to the bus then kid. 

that's nit much better. There are other people there :/ 

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14 minutes ago, vorticalbox said:

speed isn't the issue having miles of vacuum in which a single point of failure would cause air to rush at the speed of sound and push the cars just like a bullet. 

see above, would you like to sit in a car where outside there is nothing to breathe?

I mean we do it every time you go in a plane. Some planes are also more than 15 years old. Concords broke the speed of sounds and people rode them. People go into submarines all the time. You are far more likely to die in a car crash then you would on a state of the art machine fully controlled and designed by engineers them some drunk idiot that hits you in a truck.

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Leave it to Elon Musk to do this. Awesome & funny.

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3 hours ago, WMGroomAK said:

In my opinion, I think that this kind of transit system will probably be a lot more feasible for large cities and metropolitan areas than flying cars and other flying vehicles. 

Yes, it's called subway. 

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3 hours ago, bgibbz said:

Tesla models S,3,X ... oh Elon musk....

Apparently the model Y is next

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4 hours ago, SamStrecker said:

I mean we do it every time you go in a plane. Some planes are also more than 15 years old. Concords broke the speed of sounds and people rode them. People go into submarines all the time. You are far more likely to die in a car crash then you would on a state of the art machine fully controlled and designed by engineers them some drunk idiot that hits you in a truck.

 

The difference is when you have a failure at the plane, you still have some chances of survival, when in submarine, you will have some chances of survival. But, if hyperloop tube breaks, the air will rush in and push all of the pods inside making them to rapidly accelerate to the speed of sound and smash them against all of the other capsules inside making ALL of the people dead in that tube.

But first they need to figure out how to suck the air out from the tubes since even for the much smaller closed loops like CERN LHC it presents a significant challenge.

 

So the conclusion is: is hyperloop possible? Maybe, but NOT in the currently proposed form.

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39 minutes ago, Niksa said:

 

The difference is when you have a failure at the plane, you still have some chances of survival, when in submarine, you will have some chances of survival. But, if hyperloop tube breaks, the air will rush in and push all of the pods inside making them to rapidly accelerate to the speed of sound and smash them against all of the other capsules inside making ALL of the people dead in that tube.

But first they need to figure out how to suck the air out from the tubes since even for the much smaller closed loops like CERN LHC it presents a significant challenge.

 

So the conclusion is: is hyperloop possible? Maybe, but NOT in the currently proposed form.

You are kidding right? Rapid decompression at 30,000 feet and you have a chance? How about a rupture thousands of feet under the ocean? I think you are not realizing how dangerous things people consider normal since they have been around for awhile. 

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Great! More competition for Ubisoft. (don't mind me stuck in 2015...)

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4 minutes ago, SamStrecker said:

You are kidding right? Rapid decompression at 30,000 feet and you have a chance? How about a rupture thousands of feet under the ocean? I think you are not realizing how dangerous things people consider normal since they have been around for awhile. 

Ok, talking about rapid decompression. What do you think is happening then? Explosion? NOPE. That is Hollywood bullshit. In that case pilot will have about 5-10s to put his mask on and do the rapid descent because the only issue there is suffocation. It is serious and dangerous but survivable. 

Thousands of feet under the ocean? If we are talking abut submarines where there are more than couple of people inside, we can speak of only ~250m MAX (not even 1000ft). That is the maximum depth of the military submarine. Unless they are hit by torpedo, those submarines have bulkheads which can isolate a section of a submarine and then rise up. Still survivable.

 

However, imagine a train line between let's say, New York and LA. Now imagine that there are, let's say 10 train composition traveling there with around the same distance between them. And finally imagine that the track got broken in the middle and that one train derailed because of that broken track. In that case there would be lots of casualties but only on that train the rest would be unaffected. Now imagine if that were a hyperloop. If the tube breaks in the middle people in ALL 10 capsules would die.

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5 minutes ago, Niksa said:

Ok, talking about rapid decompression. What do you think is happening then? Explosion? NOPE. That is Hollywood bullshit. In that case pilot will have about 5-10s to put his mask on and do the rapid descent because the only issue there is suffocation. It is serious and dangerous but survivable. 

Thousands of feet under the ocean? If we are talking abut submarines where there are more than couple of people inside, we can speak of only ~250m MAX (not even 1000ft). That is the maximum depth of the military submarine. Unless they are hit by torpedo, those submarines have bulkheads which can isolate a section of a submarine and then rise up. Still survivable.

 

However, imagine a train line between let's say, New York and LA. Now imagine that there are, let's say 10 train composition traveling there with around the same distance between them. And finally imagine that the track got broken in the middle and that one train derailed because of that broken track. In that case there would be lots of casualties but only on that train the rest would be unaffected. Now imagine if that were a hyperloop. If the tube breaks in the middle people in ALL 10 capsules would die.

You still have a greater chance of dying in a car crash. I would be second to ride it

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2 minutes ago, SamStrecker said:

You still have a greater chance of dying in a car crash. I would be second to ride it

And where is this mythical information about hyperloop performance that only you seem to have access to? xD

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2 minutes ago, SamStrecker said:

You still have a greater chance of dying in a car crash. I would be second to ride it

You can die by falling down the stairs as well.

 

Talking about car crash on a highway. Let's say that some people die. But not all of the people who are driving on the highway at that time. Can you see where am I getting at?

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49 minutes ago, Niksa said:

You can die by falling down the stairs as well.

 

Talking about car crash on a highway. Let's say that some people die. But not all of the people who are driving on the highway at that time. Can you see where am I getting at?

I get what your saying but there is also millions of cars on the rode. Plane crashes seem bad as many people die and you hear about it. But the amount of people that die from car accidents is multitude bigger

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11 hours ago, Dogeystyle said:

Musk has a very ironic sense of humour

Yea, he once crashed a car they were testing and started laughing. When the other person in the car asked why he was laughing he said "you don't know the funny part... it wasn't insured". He has one of the best senses of humour I have ever seen.

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15 hours ago, DildorTheDecent said:

Nothing wrong with going fast. Maybe if you're a pansy you can stick to the diesel bus. 

There is an issue with going fast into a wall, however. 

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15 hours ago, vorticalbox said:

at least this might actually work, the hyperloop is never going to work. It's just dangerous.

I could say the same thing about airjets which far more dangerous than hyperloop, and yet after many years of fails and lives lost planes have reached quite a stable and safe spot as transport, best transport for long range atm. There are even safe trains going 300km + an hour everyday and they are safe(altought again much more dangerous than hyperloop)

The difference with hyperloop is that now they have a lot better tech, better engineers and lots of fails to learn from other transport systems, i mean we can go into space somewhat safely nowdays but we cant do a hyperloop?

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15 hours ago, CostcoSamples said:

Pretty cool!  Elon is amazing.  How many people can run three big successful companies that each push the limits of their industry and be successful and disruptive in those industries!?  Incredible.  The man is a god.  We should be calling him Lord Musk.

We kinda knew how to make holes from quite some time now. We did that in Europe for underground trains since approximately a century, we pushed it farther than he does when we built a train under the sea from London to Paris. We built kilometers long tunnels in mountains. How is it disruptive ?

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9 hours ago, Niksa said:

 

The difference is when you have a failure at the plane, you still have some chances of survival

I fundamentally disagree with this statement.

When do you ever hear about people surviving plane crashes?

They tell you adopt the brace position so they can identify you by your dental records when you inevitibly die.

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15 hours ago, DildorTheDecent said:

Nothing wrong with going fast. Maybe if you're a pansy you can stick to the diesel bus. 

 

15 hours ago, SamStrecker said:

What's dangerous about it outside of typical things now days?

 

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am i the only one who thinks that is only a ruse so he can build his bond villain lair.

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38 minutes ago, Master Disaster said:

 

 

You really think Elon Musk would just make it up? Let's not forget his company was the first to make reusable rockets? People would have said it was impossible same with the hyperloop. I'm pretty sure they thought about the basics of engineering.

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6 minutes ago, SamStrecker said:

You really think Elon Musk would just make it up? Let's not forget his company was the first to make reusable rockets? People would have said it was impossible same with the hyperloop. I'm pretty sure they thought about the basics of engineering.

No, I think he believes he can do it, its just unfortunate for him that very basic physics says he can't.

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Just now, Master Disaster said:

No, I think he believes he can do it, its just unfortunate for him that very basic physics says he can't.

I'm pretty sure they have tested and done prior experimenting before spreading the news and investing millions into it

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Just now, SamStrecker said:

I'm pretty sure they have tested and done prior experimenting before spreading the news and investing millions into it

I'm pretty sure they didn't. Have you watched the results video from the build a vehicle competition he ran? He wasn't able to get a stable vacuum in a 1000m long tube and despite the teams being optimistic about reaching 80mph the fastest achieved speed was a little over 30mph.

 

Just think about it, he's talking about holding a full vacuum across tens of thousands of meters of tubing that's split into smaller pieces. Its just not possible with current technology.

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