Need help for my first build

[tom_w141]

Just now, M.A.P said:

If you do productivity stuff more than gaming then go with this. It is gonna hurt a bit in gaming but overall this one performs better but if you want the pc only for gaming then this is not a good build.

 

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/9kJ2NN
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/9kJ2NN/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD RYZEN 7 1700 3.0GHz 8-Core Processor  ($316.88 @ OutletPC) 
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i v2 70.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($119.89 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: Asus CROSSHAIR VI HERO ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($243.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Memory: G.Skill Flare X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  ($186.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Intel 600p Series 512GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($169.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($48.88 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 1080 8GB DUKE OC Video Card  ($484.98 @ Newegg) 
Case: Phanteks ECLIPSE P400 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($69.99 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: Rosewill 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($65.98 @ Newegg) 
Total: $1707.57
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-04-26 08:32 EDT-0400

That's also poor advice. It does not hurt gaming except when at 1080p high refresh rate. What is reported less is that ryzen offers a smoother overall performance because the frame times are better, also there was no need to go up to the 1700, the 1600 would have suited his needs fine.

[M.A.P]

Just now, tom_w141 said:

It does not hurt gaming except when at 1080p high refresh rate.

I compared it with it's intel counterpart.

[M.A.P]

3 minutes ago, tom_w141 said:

It will not bottleneck at 1440p that's garbage.

There is a small bottleneck in some scenarios not all and also not noticeable.

[tom_w141]

Just now, M.A.P said:

I compared it with it's intel counterpart.

Unless OP is playing at 144Hz 1080p this will not be an issue (even then its <10%) and he most certainly won't see a 1440p bottleneck

[M.A.P]

1 minute ago, tom_w141 said:

Unless OP is playing at 144Hz 1080p this will not be an issue

Yeah those frames are not noticeable.

[Gmanliving]

7 minutes ago, M.A.P said:

@Gmanliving Why did you post the same build twice?

Not the same build.

 

9 minutes ago, herman mcpootis said:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-7700K 4.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($338.34 @ OutletPC) 
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i GTX 70.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($99.99 @ Corsair) 
Motherboard: ASRock Z270 Killer SLI/ac ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($121.98 @ Newegg) 
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  ($114.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: MyDigitalSSD BP5e Slim 7 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($92.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Seagate BarraCuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($47.49 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB Gaming OC 11G  Video Card  ($684.66 @ OutletPC) 
Case: Phanteks ECLIPSE P400 TEMPERED GLASS ATX Mid Tower Case  ($89.98 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA G2 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($99.99 @ Amazon) 
Total: $1690.41
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-04-26 08:30 EDT-0400

Very nice other than the 240GB SSD. If OP does not prefer the Enthoo Evolv and RGB ram and AIO, then i7700K+1080 Ti>>1600+1080

[tom_w141]

4 minutes ago, M.A.P said:

Yeah those frames are not noticeable.

Yeah so why use it as an argument to encourage OP to buy an i5 which won't last him very long? It is already maxed out in current games! its only 4c/4t vs the 6c12t 1600! AND the 1600 costs less and comes with a  cooler.

 

Anyway I don't want too many posts clogging OPs thread so back on topic:

 

@Deux Revised the build to suit 500GB SSD needs. Will still slay anything else prior it at your budget. (1080p will not make full use of a beast like the 1080Ti it go for 1440p or even 4k. If you don't have a monitor like this then you can upgrade in the near future as the 1080Ti certainly wont be bad at 1080p it just wont be used to its full potential)

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  ($218.79 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock X370 Taichi ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($198.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  ($114.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO 500GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($164.88 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Seagate BarraCuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($47.49 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Zotac GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB AMP Edition Video Card  ($699.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Phanteks Enthoo Evolv ATX Glass ATX Mid Tower Case  ($189.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA G3 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($88.89 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1724.01
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-04-26 08:42 EDT-0400

 

- 6c/12t CPU with room for future growth (an i5 is currently maxed out by modern games 95-100% utilisation so no utilisation headroom for the future), no slouch in gaming and will run rings around the 7600k in productivity tasks.

 

- AM4 motherboard platform is guaranteed for a minimum of 4 years (this means in 4 years time you can upgrade to the latest zen cpu WITHOUT needing a motherboard change), unlike LGA1151 which is near end of life.

 

- A 1080ti creaming that 1070 in other builds.

 

- Fast Ryzen friendly RAM.

 

- No need for a cpu cooler unless you CHOOSE to add one (7600k = no stock cooler, 1600 = decent wraith spire stock cooler).

[M.A.P]

1 minute ago, Gmanliving said:

Not the same build.

Did you edit the build?

[Herman Mcpootis]

2 minutes ago, Gmanliving said:

Not the same build.

 

Very nice other than the 240GB SSD. If OP does not prefer the Enthoo Evolv and RGB ram and AIO, then i7700K+1080 Ti>>1600+1080

that ssd matches the 850 evo on some tests.

[Deux]

@Gmanliving, @M.A.P, @tom_w141

Thank you guys for the insights and suggestions.

 

I can go for the Ryzen if its better. My first pc I owned which bought as set is an intel cpu, That's why i pick intel. 

 

For the Ryzen 5 I saw there is a 1600 and 1600x which of those two should I get? And btw I'm more on gaming.

 

 

[Gmanliving]

2 minutes ago, tom_w141 said:

Will still slay anything else prior it at your budget.

7700K slayed by 1600? Really?

[Gmanliving]

1 minute ago, herman mcpootis said:

that ssd matches the 850 evo on some tests.

Was referring to the capacity and not performance

[tom_w141]

Just now, Deux said:

@Gmanliving, @M.A.P, @tom_w141

Thank you guys for the insights and suggestions.

 

I can go for the Ryzen if its better. My first pc I owned which bought as set is an intel cpu, That's why i pick intel. 

 

For the Ryzen 5 I saw there is a 1600 and 1600x which of those two should I get? And btw I'm more on gaming.

 

 

1600 the X is a factory overclock. I helped someone get their 1600 to 4GHz and they are loving gaming on it  preferring it over their older i7!

[Herman Mcpootis]

1 minute ago, Deux said:

@Gmanliving, @M.A.P, @tom_w141

Thank you guys for the insights and suggestions.

 

I can go for the Ryzen if its better. My first pc I owned which bought as set is an intel cpu, That's why i pick intel. 

 

For the Ryzen 5 I saw there is a 1600 and 1600x which of those two should I get? And btw I'm more on gaming.

 

 

for gaming the 7700k will be the best, get that instead.

[tom_w141]

Just now, Gmanliving said:

7700K slayed by 1600? Really?

It doesn't matter what you have I have the 1080Ti which your build can't afford  so yes slayed  You might be able to cope with 10% more frames at high 1080p refresh rates but mine stomps you in 1440- and 4k - so yes slayed

[tom_w141]

Just now, herman mcpootis said:

for gaming the 7700k will be the best, get that instead.

No because for the same budget he can have a 1600 and a 1080Ti which will be better than the 1080 in the 7700k build.

[M.A.P]

3 minutes ago, Deux said:

For the Ryzen 5 I saw there is a 1600 and 1600x which of those two should I get?

Get 1600, a decent mobo and oc it you'll save some money and it performs the same or better.

[Gmanliving]

Just now, tom_w141 said:

It doesn't matter what you have I have the 1080Ti which your build can't afford  so yes slayed  You might be able to cope with 10% more frames at high 1080p refresh rates but mine stomps you in 1440- and 4k - so yes slayed

The i7 7700K build is paired with a 1080 Ti lol soooooo 7700K>>>1600. Especially for gaming

[tom_w141]

2 minutes ago, Gmanliving said:

The i7 7700K build is paired with a 1080 Ti lol soooooo 7700K>>>1600. Especially for gaming

Oh you changed your build I didn't see  yeah but to get that you had to sacrifice the case and OP wants $180 case

 

EDIT: Oh and seeing as the only visible difference is at really high fps 1080p then its more like 7700k>1600 not >>>  as its only slightly better.

[Herman Mcpootis]

17 minutes ago, tom_w141 said:

No because for the same budget he can have a 1600 and a 1080Ti which will be better than the 1080 in the 7700k build.

 

21 minutes ago, herman mcpootis said:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-7700K 4.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($338.34 @ OutletPC) 
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i GTX 70.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($99.99 @ Corsair) 
Motherboard: ASRock Z270 Killer SLI/ac ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($121.98 @ Newegg) 
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  ($114.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: MyDigitalSSD BP5e Slim 7 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($92.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Seagate BarraCuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($47.49 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB Gaming OC 11G  Video Card  ($684.66 @ OutletPC) 
Case: Phanteks ECLIPSE P400 TEMPERED GLASS ATX Mid Tower Case  ($89.98 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA G2 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($99.99 @ Amazon) 
Total: $1690.41
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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[Gmanliving]

3 minutes ago, tom_w141 said:

Oh you changed your build I didn't see  yeah but to get that you had to sacrifice the case and OP wants $180 case

I think OP should decide if he wants to go for a S340 Elite or something similar with the tempered glass while keeping the 7700K and 1080Ti which is superior than the 1600, especially in terms of gaming, the OP's main requirement.

[tom_w141]

1 minute ago, herman mcpootis said:

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Yes I was referring to a different build my mistake. But to do that he had to remove OPs sexy case which is kinda cheating  

[M.A.P]

For gaming this build is amazing. GTX 1080 ti paired with 7700k is the best gaming setup(Titan Xp is better but is new so no aftermarket cards and also costly).

 

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rYW7qk
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rYW7qk/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i7-7700K 4.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($338.34 @ OutletPC) 
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i v2 70.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($119.89 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z270XP-SLI ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($123.98 @ Newegg) 
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  ($114.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Crucial MX300 525GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($146.98 @ Directron) 
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($48.88 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB Gaming OC 11G  Video Card  ($684.66 @ OutletPC) 
Case: Fractal Design Define S w/Window ATX Mid Tower Case  ($69.99 @ NCIX US) 
Power Supply: Rosewill 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($65.98 @ Newegg) 
Total: $1713.69
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-04-26 08:53 EDT-0400

[Herman Mcpootis]

Just now, tom_w141 said:

Yes I was referring to a different build my mistake. But to do that he had to remove OPs sexy case which is kinda cheating  

so why do you quote me instead? you didn't see my build without the 7700k+1080ti?

[tom_w141]

Just now, Gmanliving said:

I think OP should decide if he wants to go for a S340 Elite or something similar with the tempered glass while keeping the 7700K and 1080Ti which is superior than the 1600, esp in terms of gaming

"Superior" Only in the league of frames we can't even see and only at 1080p, hell we don't even know if he has a 1080p or a high refresh rate monitor (my bet is he doesn't)

 

Also a case is something he has to see all the time and be happy with. S340 Elite has shit airflow btw... I understand why he picked the Evolv its a beautiful case - I made by build fit his desires and his budget whereas you had to cut the case for gains in the 144fps 1080p sector (small sector), while neglecting the likelihood of higher resolutions and the smoother experience on the 1600 with the option to stream if op ever decides that something he wants to do.  Icing on the cake AM4 is brand new and guaranteed for 4 years so he can slot a new zen CPU in there 4 years on and have a CPU only upgrade, whereas LGA1151 is near end of life meaning if he buys kaby lake he will most certainly need a new mobo and CPU next time around