Gaming CPU needed

[Feris]

I am going to build a new Rig without any used stuff. my current setup is:
 - Motherboard: Asus Strix Z270F
 - CPU: I7 7700k

 - CPU cooler: Thermalright TRUE Spirit 140 Direct

 - VGA: Asus Strix OC 1080ti

 - RAM: 2x8Gb G.Skill RGB 3000Mhz

I am not streaming only do Gaming. I don't know I should go with Intel or Ryzen 1700 and some B350 motherboard for future gaming requirement ?
 

[Energycore]

Wait, you want to upgrade from what you already have? Because that can't be done. If you want to put together a completely new build, how much u wanna pay?

[Simon771]

Just for gaming no. Stay with your current build.

[Vegetable]

2 minutes ago, Feris said:

I am going to build a new Rig without any used stuff. my current setup is:
 - Motherboard: Asus Strix Z270F
 - CPU: I7 7700k

 - CPU cooler: Thermalright TRUE Spirit 140 Direct

 - VGA: Asus Strix OC 1080ti

 - RAM: 2x8Gb G.Skill RGB 3000Mhz

I am not streaming only do Gaming. I don't know I should go with Intel or Ryzen 1700 and some B350 motherboard for future gaming requirement ?
 

"only gaming" then get intel. end of story

[The Sloth]

7700k is the best gaming cpu that's available for now, no competition. 

[The Sloth]

Just now, Energycore said:

Wait, you want to upgrade from what you already have? Because that can't be done. If you want to put together a completely new build, how much u wanna pay?

 

 

2 minutes ago, Feris said:

am going to build a new Rig without any used

 

[Energycore]

Just now, nerdslayer1 said:

 

 

Well second question still stands

[Zondor]

If your just gaming stick with Intel.

Ryzen is a great platform for those who do more than just games, but for just games, the 7700 is a beast.

[Feris]

1 minute ago, Energycore said:

Well second question still stands

around 2000$ budget

 

[RadiatingLight]

4 minutes ago, Vegetable said:

"only gaming" then get intel. end of story

Well, kinda.

a 6400 is worse than a 1400, even for gaming, because of it's lower clockspeed and because it's locked. an OC'ed 1400 beats a 6400 in gaming.

I compared it to a 6400 because they're both the cheapest new quad cores you can get from both companies.

[ArduinoBen]

For ANY gaming, that current build is more than enough!

 

But IF you did upgrade:

-get more RAM

-Nothing more, that build is insane the way it is now, maybe dual 1080Tis?

[Energycore]

Just now, Feris said:

around 2000$ budget

 

Hmm grab a 7700K then

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-7700K 4.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($338.34 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: Deepcool CAPTAIN360EX 229.6 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($98.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Asus STRIX Z270-E GAMING ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($186.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LED 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($114.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Crucial MX300 1.1TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($270.88 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB GAMING X Video Card  ($748.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Corsair Crystal 570X RGB ATX Mid Tower Case  ($179.99 @ B&H)
Power Supply: Corsair RMx 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($109.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $2049.16
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-04-26 01:39 EDT-0400

 

Black-red colored, hence some of the choices.
 

[Cyracus]

You have just about the best gaming system you could possibly have...buy yourself another 1080ti for games that do sli well and then buy one for me too lol

[Feris]

@Energycore

thanks for ur share, but my country has very poor RMA service with liquid cooling I just go for air

[Energycore]

6 minutes ago, Feris said:

@Energycore

thanks for ur share, but my country has very poor RMA service with liquid cooling I just go for air

Ahh gotcha. Well try to aim for that kind of build but look for another air cooler, not a Hyper 212 EVO though that one's bad. You can ask here for a recommendation for that (but please tell us where you live)

[Vegetable]

56 minutes ago, RadiatingLight said:

Well, kinda.

a 6400 is worse than a 1400, even for gaming, because of it's lower clockspeed and because it's locked. an OC'ed 1400 beats a 6400 in gaming.

I compared it to a 6400 because they're both the cheapest new quad cores you can get from both companies.

eh i mean on the big end of the cpu world. No ryzen chip touches a 7700k in games. But yeah at the <$250 price point ryzen is the clear choice imo

[Feris]

@Energycore

 I live in Viet Nam, and my local store got some Corsair liquid AIO like H100. Not many best P/p hardware available in my country

[Simon771]

To be fair, I will probbably switch to Ryzen, but not because Intel performs bad. I just hate those hot CPUs from Intel ... i7 7700k at stock speeds is almost overheating out of the box. But those CPUs are "meant" to run at 5GHz all the time, so to acchive that you need to delid them. 

I would buy i7 7700k for my rig instantly, if it was already delided and taken care of that overheating issue. But because that's not possible I'm stuck with either X99 platform or Ryzen since those are all soldered.

 

X99 is going to become dead platform since Intel will be releasing X299 soon. Not sure if I want to wait that long, just to see 6 core CPUs priced at 500€ and 8 core CPUs at 700€.

[Feris]

@Simon771 Power outage in my house is often, so if I go to Ryzen I cannot safely update bios, risky x.x

[Simon771]

34 minutes ago, Feris said:

@Simon771 Power outage in my house is often, so if I go to Ryzen I cannot safely update bios, risky x.x

BIOS update only takes few minutes .... If that's the case in your house, I'm wondering why didn't you already buy UPS. You can get them as cheap as 50€, and plug your PC + monitor on it. When power outage happens, you still have around 10min time to normally shut down your PC.

Or you can pay a little more money and have that UPS with function to notify you when power outage happens, so even if you are not at home, you can remoetly turn off your PC when something like that happens. It's a good feature.

[Energycore]

7 hours ago, Feris said:

@Energycore

 I live in Viet Nam, and my local store got some Corsair liquid AIO like H100. Not many best P/p hardware available in my country

What air coolers can you get? Can you get a Cooler Master MasterAir Pro 4?

5 hours ago, Simon771 said:

BIOS update only takes few minutes .... If that's the case in your house, I'm wondering why didn't you already buy UPS. You can get them as cheap as 50€, and plug your PC + monitor on it. When power outage happens, you still have around 10min time to normally shut down your PC.

Or you can pay a little more money and have that UPS with function to notify you when power outage happens, so even if you are not at home, you can remoetly turn off your PC when something like that happens. It's a good feature.

Agreed you should have UPS anyway. A lot of PSUs especially the cheap ones don't take kindly to power outages.

[Spenser1337]

8 hours ago, Feris said:

@Energycore

 I live in Viet Nam, and my local store got some Corsair liquid AIO like H100. Not many best P/p hardware available in my country

Do you have a gold plated toilet?

[XCalinX]

1700. Just yesterday I upgraded from a 6700k to a 1800x and there is little difference in gaming but a huge difference in multi core stuff. Like, why on earth would you pick a 7700k over Ryzen? Seriously now, Ryzen is better all around.

Yeah the 6700k is marginally slower than the 7700k and the 1800x is better than the 7700. But the difference between the i7s is so little and the 1700 can be overclocked to match a 1800x

[AntonChigurh]

42 minutes ago, XCalinX said:

1700. Just yesterday I upgraded from a 6700k to a 1800x and there is little difference in gaming but a huge difference in multi core stuff. Like, why on earth would you pick a 7700k over Ryzen? Seriously now, Ryzen is better all around.

Because the 7700k has better performance for pure gaming. Ryzen is a more work-oriented CPU. Yeah, it does good in gaming also, but that's like saying a Quadro is better than a 1080ti. It is, but only in the situation which it was designed for. Plus the 7700k is cheaper.

[iiNNeX]

5 hours ago, XCalinX said:

1700. Just yesterday I upgraded from a 6700k to a 1800x and there is little difference in gaming but a huge difference in multi core stuff. Like, why on earth would you pick a 7700k over Ryzen? Seriously now, Ryzen is better all around.

Yeah the 6700k is marginally slower than the 7700k and the 1800x is better than the 7700. But the difference between the i7s is so little and the 1700 can be overclocked to match a 1800x

1800x Better than 7700k? Define better?

 

Because in gaming it is far behind my friend.

 

Also buying a 1800x/1700x over a 1700 is pretty stupid these days, as all chips once OC'ed run at the same frequency give or take, so it's only for those who are unable to OC themselves