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for ryzen 5 1500x should i get a ASRock X370 KILLER SLI/ac or should i get a MSI X370 SLI PLUS. i am going to put it in a phanteks p400s tge looking for a solid $900 build without peripherals: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/JzXFr7

 

currently undecided on a GPU as i know that vega might come out soon which will reduce prices and the rx580 was just released so i am waiting for driver updates. i am going to be buying in about 2-3 months

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Honestly I don't see much reason to get a 370 over the 350 for a Ryzen 5 but if you really want a 370 my honest advice would be checking the Asus Prime x370 Pro as I use it and I"m more than happy with it.

 

Also the new stock coolers are as good as the 212evo you really don't need it.

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1 minute ago, Princess Cadence said:

Honestly I don't see much reason to get a 370 over the 350 for a Ryzen 5 but if you really want a 370 my honest advice would be checking the Asus Prime x370 Pro as I use it and I"m more than happy with it

this is my search filter and i am just picking the cheapest one... i selected sli capable as i might go with a 1070 or something and sli later

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Save some money on the Mobo get 350. They look just as cool.

 

Then get a 1600 or 1600(x) with the money you saved.

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Just now, saksham said:

this is my search filter and i am just picking the cheapest one... i selected sli capable as i might go with a 1070 or something and sli later

You should favour single GPU solutions whenever you can as SLI support though improved the last years still isn't perfect, also a 1070 sli would go better with the R7 1700.

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2 minutes ago, JR8 said:

Save some money on the Mobo get 350. They look just as cool.

 

Then get a 1600 or 1600(x) with the money you saved.

totally true... but i wont really be using that horse power of those cpu's as i will be doing AAA gaming and *light* workstation so 1500x is more than enough.. i have a tempered glass case so a better mobo would kinda be necessary and i can upgrade stuff later

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10 minutes ago, JR8 said:

Save some money on the Mobo get 350. They look just as cool.

 

Then get a 1600 or 1600(x) with the money you saved.

Cant SLI on a 350, you can crossfire, but not SLI

 

9 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

You should favour single GPU solutions whenever you can as SLI support though improved the last years still isn't perfect, also a 1070 sli would go better with the R7 1700.

I don't know what you mean by this? They are both perfectly capable of running an SLI rig - I agree with the better single GPU, but my guess is the OP is on a budget, so this is the perfect scenario for SLI

 

15 minutes ago, saksham said:

for ryzen 5 1500x should i get a ASRock X370 KILLER SLI/ac or should i get a MSI X370 SLI PLUS. i am going to put it in a phanteks p400s tge looking for a solid $900 build without peripherals: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/JzXFr7

 

currently undecided on a GPU as i know that vega might come out soon which will reduce prices and the rx580 was just released so i am waiting for driver updates. i am going to be buying in about 2-3 months

Both boards are pretty equal, it maybe worth also checking Gigabyte k5 and Asrock gaming K4 aswell as the Asus Prime as mentioned by @Princess Cadence - but two boards you mentioned are very similar, if the Asrock/Gigabyte are out of budget (they have external clock generator allowing BLCK overclock) just get what ever matches your build better, I would also try and stretch to a 1600 if at all possible

 

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3 minutes ago, saksham said:

totally true... but i wont really be using that horse power of those cpu's as i will be doing AAA gaming and *light* workstation so 1500x is more than enough.. i have a tempered glass case so a better mobo would kinda be necessary and i can upgrade stuff later

Both of those can easily take advantage of the extra cores. Benchmarks put the 1600 considerably ahead of the 1500x. I would HIGHLY recommend getting a 1600+something like a B350 prime plus instead.

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1 minute ago, DocSwag said:

Both of those can easily take advantage of the extra cores. Benchmarks put the 1600 considerably ahead of the 1500x. I would HIGHLY recommend getting a 1600+something like a B350 prime plus instead.

b350 doesn't do SLI, otherwise I agree totally

 

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b350 doesn't do SLI, otherwise I agree totally

Why is sli needed? I don't recommend it anyways.

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1 minute ago, DocSwag said:

Why is sli needed? I don't recommend it anyways.

 

14 minutes ago, saksham said:

this is my search filter and i am just picking the cheapest one... i selected sli capable as i might go with a 1070 or something and sli later

Why don't you recommend it? This is the perfect scenario for SLI, buy the best you can afford now, add another later on when you have funds again and the single solution isn't so great

 

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1 minute ago, stealth80 said:

 

Why don't you recommend it? This is the perfect scenario for SLI, buy the best you can afford now, add another later on when you have funds again and the single solution isn't so great

SLI has issues, doesn't scale well, etc. I recommend just selling the card and buying a better GPU rather than going SLI.

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1 minute ago, DocSwag said:

SLI has issues, doesn't scale well, etc. I recommend just selling the card and buying a better GPU rather than going SLI.

What issues are those? What problems did you have?

 

OP doesn't have the 1070 yet, but that is pretty much the GPU budget. This is the perfect scenario. Also yes, we all know that the top GPU single card is the gold plated solution, but not everyone has the gold to pay for it

 

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Similarly spec'd and priced. I'd get the SLI PLUS for aesthetics reasons plus MSI has been reliable in the past for me.

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1 minute ago, stealth80 said:

What issues are those? What problems did you have?

I didn't do SLI, but sometimes you get higher frame times and lower fps in certain titles (like for honor), I recall that at one point relive didn't work at all with 480 CF. There are more issues I just can't remember ATM.

 

Basically, it's buggy, can lead to higher frame times/lower mins in some titles, some titles have 0 or negative scaling, and others have poor scaling. Overall, getting a single faster GPU is just a better option.

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20 minutes ago, DocSwag said:

I didn't do SLI, but sometimes you get higher frame times and lower fps in certain titles (like for honor), I recall that at one point relive didn't work at all with 480 CF. There are more issues I just can't remember ATM.

 

Basically, it's buggy, can lead to higher frame times/lower mins in some titles, some titles have 0 or negative scaling, and others have poor scaling. Overall, getting a single faster GPU is just a better option.

Don't take this the wrong way mate, I asked that question for this very reason.

 

The whole problem with the reputation of SLI is that people base their knowledge upon what they have read from other peoples experiences. The problem is, there's rarely a thread where someone is commending how great their product is and how stable it is etc - however there are thousands of people who complain and have issues. So we as a community go with the consensus that SLI is bad because people are always saying that it is bad - the people with no problems with SLI are busy gaming away.

 

I have said this probably 50 times on these forums now - I had 2x 970 SLI for around 18 months. I started with 1x 970 when upgraded to a 4790k rig and thus the 970 was what I could afford at the time. Around 6 months later I got my 1440P monitor which could expose the speed of the 970 in newer titles (this is like Feb 2015) so I added another 970 later that year. My experience in that period was flawless. Just Cause 3 had zero SLI support and Quantum Break (turbo turd, didn't even support full screen or gsync etc). The rest of my games around 60 at the time and every AAA I added since all worked with SLI.

 

Why? Was I lucky? No - Now this works in my favour as I rarely buy a game on day one - I usually wait a few weeks or so for bugs to be sorted and more importantly, the inevitable price drop - this means I always had SLI profiles. I never needed to use NVinspector to make default profiles and tbh (my opinion) I think that is what causes a lot of peoples problems - conflicts.

 

Why did I swap the 970 SLI's? Was it bad SLI? no, no where near. They were faster than a 980ti in most games based on average and high FPS (bios modded to 1518mhz) but the minimums were less - however they were great. The problem was my nice new 1440P screen + high textures + 4gb vram (or 3.5gb if you also believe iPhone 6's actually bend in your pocket) so I sold them and grabbed a 1080 with 8gb vram.

 

I'm not the only person with a great SLI experience on here, @App4that and @jjohnthedon1 are 2 that spring to mind that have also commended their SLI experience

 

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59 minutes ago, saksham said:

for ryzen 5 1500x should i get a ASRock X370 KILLER SLI/ac or should i get a MSI X370 SLI PLUS. i am going to put it in a phanteks p400s tge looking for a solid $900 build without peripherals: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/JzXFr7

 

currently undecided on a GPU as i know that vega might come out soon which will reduce prices and the rx580 was just released so i am waiting for driver updates. i am going to be buying in about 2-3 months

I'd get a 1600 definatly worth the extra 20 pound for gaming

and sli is exalent right now, works with pretty much everything and is a superb experience can't speak for crossfire but sli is a big yes for me 

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1 hour ago, stealth80 said:

Don't take this the wrong way mate, I asked that question for this very reason.

 

The whole problem with the reputation of SLI is that people base their knowledge upon what they have read from other peoples experiences. The problem is, there's rarely a thread where someone is commending how great their product is and how stable it is etc - however there are thousands of people who complain and have issues. So we as a community go with the consensus that SLI is bad because people are always saying that it is bad - the people with no problems with SLI are busy gaming away.

 

I have said this probably 50 times on these forums now - I had 2x 970 SLI for around 18 months. I started with 1x 970 when upgraded to a 4790k rig and thus the 970 was what I could afford at the time. Around 6 months later I got my 1440P monitor which could expose the speed of the 970 in newer titles (this is like Feb 2015) so I added another 970 later that year. My experience in that period was flawless. Just Cause 3 had zero SLI support and Quantum Break (turbo turd, didn't even support full screen or gsync etc). The rest of my games around 60 at the time and every AAA I added since all worked with SLI.

 

Why? Was I lucky? No - Now this works in my favour as I rarely buy a game on day one - I usually wait a few weeks or so for bugs to be sorted and more importantly, the inevitable price drop - this means I always had SLI profiles. I never needed to use NVinspector to make default profiles and tbh (my opinion) I think that is what causes a lot of peoples problems - conflicts.

 

Why did I swap the 970 SLI's? Was it bad SLI? no, no where near. They were faster than a 980ti in most games based on average and high FPS (bios modded to 1518mhz) but the minimums were less - however they were great. The problem was my nice new 1440P screen + high textures + 4gb vram (or 3.5gb if you also believe iPhone 6's actually bend in your pocket) so I sold them and grabbed a 1080 with 8gb vram.

 

I'm not the only person with a great SLI experience on here, @App4that and @jjohnthedon1 are 2 that spring to mind that have also commended their SLI experience

Interesting point...

 

I feel like CF/SLI with CERTAIN GPUs still isn't worth it (buying 980 ti originally and planning on adding another right now doesn't seem like a good idea since you could sell it for $300-$350 and add that to the original $400 you woulda spent on a second 980 ti and get a 1080 ti instead), but considering your points I guess that for certain GPUs it does make sense (980 SLI comes to mind, as selling for $200 and adding $250 for a second one would buy a 1070, but 980 sli is better than a 1070).

 

I still feel that there are scenarios where buying a GPU and adding another in the future doesn't make sense, though your points are valid and for some scenarios adding a second in the future does.

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CPU: i7 6700k, CPU Cooler: be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 3, Motherboard: MSI Z170a KRAIT GAMING, RAM: G.Skill Ripjaws 4 Series 4x4gb DDR4-2666 MHz, Storage: SanDisk SSD Plus 240gb + OCZ Vertex 180 480 GB + Western Digital Caviar Blue 1 TB 7200 RPM, Video Card: EVGA GTX 970 SSC, Case: Fractal Design Define S, Power Supply: Seasonic Focus+ Gold 650w Yay, Keyboard: Logitech G710+, Mouse: Logitech G502 Proteus Spectrum, Headphones: B&O H9i, Monitor: LG 29um67 (2560x1080 75hz freesync)

Home Server:

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CPU: Pentium G4400, CPU Cooler: Stock, Motherboard: MSI h110l Pro Mini AC, RAM: Hyper X Fury DDR4 1x8gb 2133 MHz, Storage: PNY CS1311 120gb SSD + two Segate 4tb HDDs in RAID 1, Video Card: Does Intel Integrated Graphics count?, Case: Fractal Design Node 304, Power Supply: Seasonic 360w 80+ Gold, Keyboard+Mouse+Monitor: Does it matter?

Laptop (I use it for school):

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Surface book 2 13" with an i7 8650u, 8gb RAM, 256 GB storage, and a GTX 1050

And if you're curious (or a stalker) I have a Just Black Pixel 2 XL 64gb

 

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Multi card support is at a all time high right now, I get silly performance with my 2 980ti. Now we have Rainway on the way that lets you use the second card to live encode so you can stream your games latancy free. 

 

What's not to love about that?

If anyone asks you never saw me.

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1 hour ago, DocSwag said:

Interesting point...

 

I feel like CF/SLI with CERTAIN GPUs still isn't worth it (buying 980 ti originally and planning on adding another right now doesn't seem like a good idea since you could sell it for $300-$350 and add that to the original $400 you woulda spent on a second 980 ti and get a 1080 ti instead), but considering your points I guess that for certain GPUs it does make sense (980 SLI comes to mind, as selling for $200 and adding $250 for a second one would buy a 1070, but 980 sli is better than a 1070).

 

I still feel that there are scenarios where buying a GPU and adding another in the future doesn't make sense, though your points are valid and for some scenarios adding a second in the future does.

Yup I agree, but sometimes people don't have the single great GPU option due to funds, the typical scenario maybe Christmas, get one 2016 add another xmas 2017. And what you are saying is right, but that doesn't always make true, I mean a 1070 is what $370 for a low end ? and chances are their prices will drop in say a year so lets say $670. That's still a little less then a 1080ti for similar performance and the OP would have had a year out of first card - chances are that if it was sold it would go for what, $200? whilst a 1080ti is $700+ for aftermarket and that is a lot of cash to throw down, I thought £569 for my 1080 was a lot

 

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CPU - Ryzen 1700 @ 4Ghz  Motherboard - Gigabyte AX370 Aorus Gaming 5   Ram - 16Gb GSkill Trident Z RGB 3200  GPU - Palit 1080GTX Gamerock Premium  Storage - Samsung XP941 256GB, Crucial MX300 525GB, Seagate Barracuda 1TB   PSU - Fractal Design Newton R3 1000W  Case - INWIN 303 White Display - Asus PG278Q Gsync 144hz 1440P

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