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So I'm looking to buy a graphics card. Currently I have none. So thing is, I can get Asus Strix 1050ti for about 50€ less than a RX470. Is it worth paying that much more for RX? 

I also assume i5 4430 won't be bottleneck?

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1050 Ti would do well. How much does a 1060 3GB cost?

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I'm from Europe, Slovenia, buying in Germany though. GTX 1060 starts at 200€ so about 60€ over 1050ti.

How about PSU? 420W probably won't cut it, huh?

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7 minutes ago, xhantus404 said:

420W is fine.

Well thing is that is some kind of cheap Chinese PSU I got together with the case. Will it be good for a while anyway?

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6 minutes ago, xhantus404 said:

It's never too early to get a decent PSU. If you get a good one, that's something you can keep using for many years. Let's say something with 550 watts from some reputable brand. 420 watts will be fine for the 1050Ti, but I wouldn't trust my beloved hardware with a wonky psu. There are really decent ones and they do not have to be all that expensive. 100€ buy you into the premium ones, for just under 50€ you can get one from corsair already.

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Hm so I just saw they sold the graphics card I had my eyes on( it was B-Ware). So now I'm not in a hurry. Can we expect any discounts for the RX4XXX series since RX5XX is what, couple hours away? 

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5 minutes ago, Sport Driver said:

Hm so I just saw they sold the graphics card I had my eyes on( it was B-Ware). So now I'm not in a hurry. Can we expect any discounts for the RX4XXX series since RX5XX is what, couple hours away? 

Well we can wait and see. I imagine the retailers will be trying to dump stock of the RX400 series, so there will likely be a small discount.

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So gtx 1050ti still the best deal at the moment. Got it,  will still wait a bit probably, I'm not in a hurry. 

As for UK, I only know Amazon.co.uk, any other PC hardware retailer from UK?

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Ok I kind of got from 1050ti to RX 480 because of discounts. But I can't locate any good deal and I have one fear, thermals with AMD cards. Both RX 4XX and RX 5XX series run hotter than Nividia. And thing is, I have a cheap case and I will not change that. Problem with it is that it only has place for 2 fans, one 9 cm on the back and one 8 cm on the the side. Will that be a problem for cooling? I don't think this case has particularly good cooling. It is THIS case. 

 

Also your thoughts on GTX 1060 3GB? I can get it for a  bit lover than RX 470(570) and about 20€ more than 2-fan 1050ti. Worth it or not? It is Gigabyte Windforce OC.

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7 minutes ago, Sport Driver said:

Ok I kind of got from 1050ti to RX 480 because of discounts. But I can't locate any good deal and I have one fear, thermals with AMD cards. Both RX 4XX and RX 5XX series run hotter than Nividia. And thing is, I have a cheap case and I will not change that. Problem with it is that it only has place for 2 fans, one 9 cm on the back and one 8 cm on the the side. Will that be a problem for cooling? I don't think this case has particularly good cooling. It is THIS case. 

 

Also your thoughts on GTX 1060 3GB? I can get it for a  bit lover than RX 470(570) and about 20€ more than 2-fan 1050ti. Worth it or not? It is Gigabyte Windforce OC.

The heat might be a problem with that case. My GTX 970 even when paired with my i5 4440 was causing everything inside my 2004/2005 ATX case to get too hot, and that was with; 2x 80mm fan (1 front, 1 side), 1x 120mm fan (rear) and the PSU (1x 140mm fan, PSU in the top of the case) providing airflow.

Edit: Cripes, looking through the images its got airflow that is worse than all of my post 2000 cases.

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So I should go with lower power card huh? I also have i5 4430 inside ;)

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3 minutes ago, Sport Driver said:

So I should go with lower power card huh? I also have i5 4430 inside ;)

Even with my 4790K underclocked to 3.3GHz (which wasn't for long-performance became too close to the i5 4440 it replaced) the temperature of everything inside the case was too high-which sucked as it has the best water cooler support of all my cases, despite my newest cases (2013 & 2015) supposedly being designed for watercooling.

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I might be an AMD fanboy, but if you can I would suggest getting the RX 470. I don't have one myself, but I have talked to many people who were blown away by the performance per dollar of the card. Your CPU should be fine, as it is still a decent mid range i5.

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RX 470 is kind of not worth it at the moment. It costs as much as RX 480/580, 20 € less tops. Not sure if it is not better to buy RX X80 card in that case. But if they plan to drop prices to let's say 170-180€ I'm in.

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16 minutes ago, Sport Driver said:

RX 470 is kind of not worth it at the moment. It costs as much as RX 480/580, 20 € less tops. Not sure if it is not better to buy RX X80 card in that case. But if they plan to drop prices to let's say 170-180€ I'm in.

Oh yeah, I didn't notice it was so expensive at the moment. Did the prices go up? I seem to remember it being significantly cheaper than a 480.

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I think so yeah. It was cheaper about a month ago, at least basic cards. But those are now probably sold out and that's why prices went up.

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Ok I have a chance to score Gigabyte RX 480 windforce for 215€, go for it or wait?

 

Nevermind, it's gone, might have been wrong listing or something.

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So I bought the card, I bought RX 480 Nitro for 190€ from Amazon.fr. I think it's good deal?

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On 4/17/2017 at 3:03 PM, Sport Driver said:

So I'm looking to buy a graphics card. Currently I have none. So thing is, I can get Asus Strix 1050ti for about 50€ less than a RX470. Is it worth paying that much more for RX? 

I also assume i5 4430 won't be bottleneck?

If you have GPU power connectors coming from your power supply, there isn't really a use-case for the 1050ti.

 

While the 1050ti is absolutely the king of slot-power only GPU's, it gets pretty handily stomped by the RX 470 (which costs within $20USD of the 1050ti in the US).  Don't get me wrong, the 1050ti is perfection for dropping into a surplus i5 office machine, but the 470 is an entire performance tier above it.  My overclocked 470 is about on par with a stock blower cooler 480.

 

With sales sometimes RX 480's go cheaper than 470's, so just grab that, since pretty much any non-blower RX 480 will trade blows with the GTX 1060.

 

 

EDIT:  Didn't see your last post.  The RX 480 nitro will treat you very well.

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