Samsung 960 evo or Pro?

[orcanice]

So im going to get a m.2 for my pc.. but im unsure if i should go for the 500gb evo or the 512gb pro... i can't really figure out the diffrence. so maybe one of you could guide me on the right path.. 

 

 

thanks.

[themctipers]

pro is faster than evo but more expensive

 

if you can afford it go for pro

[SCHISCHKA]

5 vs 10 year warranty. 10 year warranty is pointless. You will be replacing the drive in 5 years anyway when you run out of space. I have a set of enterprise drives still under warranty but my use has outgrown their size. They will last forever but I can't really use them as they are too small now.

[bakidota]

pro series of samsung ssd's have more endurance aka write cycles, so it will last u more in the long run, also some perimeters of the pro have very slight increased speeds that you won't notice at all

[ARikozuM]

I'd go for the EVO and pair it with a nice HDD with the saved 70 or 80 USD.

[PaperLuigi]

http://ssd.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Samsung-960-Evo-NVMe-PCIe-M2-500GB-vs-Samsung-960-Pro-NVMe-PCIe-M2-512GB/m204072vsm182182

 

I wouldn't bother spending the extra money

[SCHISCHKA]

2 minutes ago, themctipers said:

pro is faster than evo but more expensive

 

if you can afford it go for pro

Are you sure it's worth it? 5 seconds to google it

 

 

[themctipers]

Just now, SCHISCHKA said:

Are you sure it's worth it? 5 seconds to google it

 

 

i never said it was worth it

[ARikozuM]

1 minute ago, SCHISCHKA said:

Are you sure it's worth it? 5 seconds to google it

 

 

That's the 850. OP is looking at 960 NVMe.

[SCHISCHKA]

1 minute ago, ARikozuM said:

That's the 850. OP is looking at 960 NVMe.

Same stuff all diff

www.anandtech.com/show/10698/samsung-announces-960-pro-and-960-evo-m2-pcie-ssds

[orcanice]

The drive will mostly be used for OS, and then installed applications like (Office, PS, video tools, and stuff). All games and stuff are on a 2nd drive. So if theres any other suggestions than samsung, let me know

[captain_to_fire]

I think @Bleedingyamato can help you with that. He has a 960 Pro. I know at the moment that the 960 Pro is the fastest consumer SSD at the moment but do you actually need that much speed? The 500 GB 960 Evo is priced at $260 whereas the 960 Pro 512 GB is at $329. I think you're better off with the Toshiba OCZ RD400 with 512 GB priced at $260. It may not be as fast as a 960 Pro but the speed isn't too shabby either with sequential read/write speeds of 2600 MB/s:1600 MB/s. There's also the Corsair Force MP500 at 480GB priced at $255.

[done12many2]

5 minutes ago, SCHISCHKA said:

Are you sure it's worth it? 5 seconds to google it

 

 

 

Maybe spend 10 seconds next time and search for the right drives?

[SCHISCHKA]

1 minute ago, done12many2 said:

 

Maybe spend 10 seconds next time and search for the right drives?

Like I said above the ego vs pro still has stuff all diff. Unfortunately 9 seconds is all I can afford www.anandtech.com/show/10698/samsung-announces-960-pro-and-960-evo-m2-pcie-ssds

[ARikozuM]

3 minutes ago, orcanice said:

The drive will mostly be used for OS, and then installed applications like (Office, PS, video tools, and stuff). All games and stuff are on a 2nd drive. So if theres any other suggestions than samsung, let me know

Go with Samsung. It's the least problematic NVMe drive with the most performance from my usage with the 600p, 950 PRO, 960 EVO & PRO, and one by OCZ (that I don't want to talk about).

[pagani123]

Just go with the evo its has reasonably similar speeds for quite a bit less. 

[DocSwag]

23 minutes ago, orcanice said:

The drive will mostly be used for OS, and then installed applications like (Office, PS, video tools, and stuff). All games and stuff are on a 2nd drive. So if theres any other suggestions than samsung, let me know

Don't get an m.2 ssd then. For that stuff, you won't see any faster boot and load times than a sata ssd.

 

http://techreport.com/review/30993/samsung-960-evo-ssd-reviewed/5

 

Same story for a 960 pro. Just save some money and get an 850 evo instead. M.2 SSDs are only useful for large transfers and large reads and writes that happen when doing stuff like video encoding.

[Salacious B Crum]

I have a 960 pro I won't jump into the which ones better other than to say I have both and the pro is ripping fast, do I see appreciable gains in load times can't say as I removed the evo before this posted but I get:

 

CDM_20170416104603.txt

 

 

[crzyces]

16 minutes ago, DocSwag said:

Don't get an m.2 ssd then. For that stuff, you won't see any faster boot and load times than a sata ssd.

 

http://techreport.com/review/30993/samsung-960-evo-ssd-reviewed/5

 

Same story for a 960 pro. Just save some money and get an 850 evo instead. M.2 SSDs are only useful for large transfers and large reads and writes that happen when doing stuff like video encoding.

This is weird, but having cold booted from a pci m.2 ssd connected m.2 obviously sata, and good old scsi. I could not tell the difference between the first three just booting. On a restart reboot I notice a little on the pcie m.2. Photoshop, same thing regarding start up, but file transfers, holy moly. I do wonder with the latter, why they don't seem to speed games up much, since a decent amount of data is flying everywhere. Some say they do make a difference, some say they don't. I don't game on them so I wouldn't know. I'll let someone smarter than me answer that.

[DocSwag]

4 minutes ago, crzyces said:

This is weird, but having cold booted from a pci m.2 ssd connected m.2 obviously sata, and good old scsi. I could not tell the difference between the first three just booting. On a restart reboot I notice a little on the pcie m.2. Photoshop, same thing regarding start up, but file transfers, holy moly. I do wonder with the latter, why they don't seem to speed games up much, since a decent amount of data is flying everywhere. Some say they do make a difference, some say they don't. I don't game on them so I wouldn't know. I'll let someone smarter than me answer that.

If I may quote @M.Yurizaki:

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Loading an OS or application involves loading a lot of small files. This depends a bit more on the random 4K performance of  the storage drive than the sequential one. Also there can be a lot of CPU activity going on because things have to initialize. Loading a program isn't just "transfer from storage to RAM", it's also "do stuff until the program is in a usable state"

 

[crzyces]

1 minute ago, DocSwag said:

If I may quote @M.Yurizaki:

 

That's what I was guessing about the OS. OK, it has the data but Windows still has to execute A-Z anyway. I guess it would be the same reason for gaming then? GPU and CPU get info faster, but still have to execute said instructions, regardless of how quickly they have the info?

[DocSwag]

8 minutes ago, crzyces said:

That's what I was guessing about the OS. OK, it has the data but Windows still has to execute A-Z anyway. I guess it would be the same reason for gaming then? GPU and CPU get info faster, but still have to execute said instructions, regardless of how quickly they have the info?

I would assume so, as loading apps and games doesn't benefit from m.2 SSDs.

[Bleedingyamato]

2 hours ago, orcanice said:

The drive will mostly be used for OS, and then installed applications like (Office, PS, video tools, and stuff). All games and stuff are on a 2nd drive. So if theres any other suggestions than samsung, let me know

Samsung is the best option so far as I know.  Pretty sure it's considered and shown to be the best for SSDs.  

 

I do have both a 960 Evo and a 960 Pro but only the Pro is being used atm since I'm saving the 960 Evo for a future planned build.  

 

So far as I can tell it's very nice but I hadn't thought to run any benchmarks before switching to it from my 850 Pro so I can't be any help from a real world comparison standpoint sorry.  

 

The 960 Pro still makes my desktop boot up very fast vs a HDD and I like that it lets me add storage without taking up a drive bay.  

 

 

As others have said both the 960 Evo and Pro are very fast and the main difference is the write endurance.   Though from what I've been told even the Evo should last you plenty long enough and almost certainly you'd have moved on to your next build before it would risk dying.  

 

I mainly got the Pro because I tend to worry about things like my ssd dying even if it's not really anything to worry about so this way my mind wouldn't bug me about it.  ?

 

 

 

Long story short: if you have the extra money, want the ssd to last a very very long time, and want/need every bit of speed you can get to load a lot of programs at startup then get the 960 Pro.

 

If you want to save a bit of money, want a ssd that'll still very likely last you past building your next desktop, with very nearly the same crazy fast speed then get the 960 Evo.  

 

 

Or if you don't specifically want/need an M.2 ssd then I'd suggest an 850 Pro.  It's still much faster than an HDD, has that Pro level of write endurance, and is cheaper than a 960 Evo or Pro.   

 

 

Edit: To be 100% homest I'm not sure I can tell a difference between the 850 Pro I had been using for my OS drive vs the 960 Pro I'm using now.  

 

Idk if I just don't notice things like this as easily as others, maybe my use case means I don't see an improvement since the 850 Pro was already very fast, or maybe it's because I used Samsung's data migration utility to clone my 850 Pro to my 960 Pro and it's something related to that.

 

Don't get me wrong I don't regret getting a 960 Pro.  I just don't perceive a difference.  But I also haven't really paid that close attention to see if there is one.  

 

 

2 hours ago, hey_yo_ said:

I think @Bleedingyamato can help you with that. He has a 960 Pro. I know at the moment that the 960 Pro is the fastest consumer SSD at the moment but do you actually need that much speed? The 500 GB 960 Evo is priced at $260 whereas the 960 Pro 512 GB is at $329. I think you're better off with the Toshiba OCZ RD400 with 512 GB priced at $260. It may not be as fast as a 960 Pro but the speed isn't too shabby either with sequential read/write speeds of 2600 MB/s:1600 MB/s. There's also the Corsair Force MP500 at 480GB priced at $255.

You're right I'd say: both the 960 Evo and Pro are overkill for many people from what I've been told.    Though the M.2 form factor is rather nice.  Added storage without a sata ssd taking up a drive bay.  

 

So for some people using M.2 could be about more than just getting faster ssd speeds.  

 

That being said at least for an OS drive I'd say OP (anyone really) should stick with Samsung.  When that's where your OS is running off of I think having the most reliable ssd brand is a wise investment in the stability/reliability of your computer.

 

I'd be fine using other brands for additional storage though.  In fact I have a small Sandisk ssd I have games on.  Works fine so far as I can tell.    

 

2 hours ago, ARikozuM said:

Go with Samsung. It's the least problematic NVMe drive with the most performance from my usage with the 600p, 950 PRO, 960 EVO & PRO, and one by OCZ (that I don't want to talk about).

This OP.  This.   ?

Edited April 16, 2017 by Bleedingyamato