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I'd suggest a 1600 instead as well as an rx 480 8gb, otherwise looks good.

Hey guys!!
I'm planning to build my first computer and I need some advice.
I'll be using it mostly for gaming (I play almost everything so I can't specify... FarCry, Rainbow Six Siege, Crysis (I hope XD), GTA V, CS:GO, LOL) but also some 3D/CAD work in SolidWorks and some programing in MatLab (although no so often).


Specs:
CPU: Intel core i5-6600k
MoBo: MSI Z170A-G43 Plus
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2x8) - DDR4 2400
Storage: SSD: Samsung 850 EVO 250GB (and HDD: WD Black 1TB 7200RPM --> I'll add later)

GPU: MSI GeForce GTX 1060 Armor 6G OCV1

PSU: Corsair CX550M

Case: NZXT S340 Elite

CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212X
Fan: Corsair Air Series AF120mm Quiet Edition


On my country this makes a total of around 1100€ without monitor nor peripherals.


So, what do you think? What would you change within my budget (~1000€)?
Also, I plan to add more 16GB of RAM later. Do you think it is too much of an overkill? And I'm thinking on adding a 2nd monitor when I have money, is SLI that important for a good performance on a 2 screen display? Should I bet on a SLI compatible motherboard right away?
 

(Sorry for any spell mistakes)

EDIT: My main goal is gaming

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if you're going to use cad or cpu bound applications, you should change to ryzen 1600, because more cores and threads will improve time rendering

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I'd suggest a 1600 instead as well as an rx 480 8gb, otherwise looks good.

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1 minute ago, Deux Alpha said:

CPU: Intel core i5-6600k
MoBo: MSI Z170A-G43 Plus

No, get an i7-7700 (non K) and a B250 motherboard instead ;)

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1 minute ago, DocSwag said:

I'd suggest a 1600 instead

This is what I would recommend, but Ryzen doesn't seem to perform very well in GTA V :/

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2 minutes ago, Blackhole890 said:

if you're going to use cad or cpu bound applications, you should change to ryzen 1600, because more cores and threads will improve time rendering

 

 

2 minutes ago, DocSwag said:

I'd suggest a 1600 instead as well as an rx 480 8gb, otherwise looks good.

My goal is gaming... isn't intel better for that?

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Just now, Deux Alpha said:

My goal is gaming... isn't intel better for that?

Depends on the Intel CPU...

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1 minute ago, Deux Alpha said:

 

 

My goal is gaming... isn't intel better for that?

Not necessarily. Intel wins in averages but Ryzen wins in minimums, which arguably are more important.

 

http://www.gamersnexus.net/hwreviews/2875-amd-r5-1600x-1500x-review-fading-i5-argument/page-4

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Just now, DocSwag said:

Not necessarily. Intel wins in averages but Ryzen wins in minimums, which arguably are more important.

 

http://www.gamersnexus.net/hwreviews/2875-amd-r5-1600x-1500x-review-fading-i5-argument/page-4

The 7700 is still better for gaming though...

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3 minutes ago, PCGuy_5960 said:

This is what I would recommend, but Ryzen doesn't seem to perform very well in GTA V :/

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Compare to the i5s, which are getting really low .1% mins. It seems like a gta issue but it's there.

 

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Just now, DocSwag said:

Compare to the i5s, which are getting really low .1% mins. It seems like a gta issue but it's there.

 

http://www.gamersnexus.net/guides/2878-gta-v-stuttering-mystery-on-i5-r5-cpus-part-2

Yeah, this is why I don't recommend i5s anymore :D

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1 minute ago, PCGuy_5960 said:

The 7700 is still better for gaming though...

But at the same time Ryzen is better for cad work, and has a better upgrade path. 7700 is about $100 more than a 1600 and mobos are maybe $50 cheaper. Ryzen is still cheaper.

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Just now, DocSwag said:

But at the same time Ryzen is better for cad work

I didn't fully read the OP, derp xD

@Deux Alpha Get the Ryzen 5 1600, it is MUCH better for your needs!

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that is alot of power draw as it stands, add in more ram, and another good vid card and your gonna start having issues, I would upgrade your power supply to 850 to 1000,

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1 minute ago, Draknour said:

I would upgrade your power supply to 850 to 1000,

LOL, wut? xD

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Shouldn't need more than 16gb of ram, unless your talking about future upgrades, in which case, I would upgrade GPU 1st, since you can get more powerful gpus that will have an impact, instead of ram, which may/may not have an impact. Wierd everyone keeps talking about Cad, when OP said he is doing gaming

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Just now, Drake10114 said:

Wierd everyone keeps talking about Cad, when OP said he is doing gaming

Read da OP :D

16 minutes ago, Deux Alpha said:

but also some 3D/CAD work in SolidWorks and some programing in MatLab

 

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that vid card she is looking at is a power hog, double it up add it another ssd and a hdd and she will be close to, or over her psu limit.  from my experiance when you get close to or exceed your limit it usually does not just crash, instead you end up with a gremlin of errors, first ram, then hard drive, it seems random but I have seen it happen.

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Just now, PCGuy_5960 said:

Read da OP :D

 

 

2 minutes ago, Drake10114 said:

Shouldn't need more than 16gb of ram, unless your talking about future upgrades, in which case, I would upgrade GPU 1st, since you can get more powerful gpus that will have an impact, instead of ram, which may/may not have an impact. Wierd everyone keeps talking about Cad, when OP said he is doing gaming

Thats my point, since my main goal is gaming is it worth going with a Ryzen?

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Just now, Draknour said:

that vid card she is looking at is a power hog

WTF? The 1060 doesn't draw more than 120W under load...................................................................................................

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12 minutes ago, Draknour said:

that is alot of power draw as it stands, add in more ram, and another good vid card and your gonna start having issues, I would upgrade your power supply to 850 to 1000,

550 watt will be fine lmfao, where are you getting your information? His/her system is drawing 332w, at most he should do is a 650w.

Also, I'd maybe change your WD black to a WD blue and save some cash.

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Just now, Deux Alpha said:

Thats my point, since my main goal is gaming is it worth going with a Ryzen?

Yeah, if you want to stick to Intel though, get an i7-7700. Either way, don't get an overclockable i5!

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1 minute ago, Drake10114 said:

550 watt will be fine lmfao, where are you getting your information? His/her system is drawing 332w, at most he should do is a 650w.

Also, I'd maybe change your WD black to a WD blue and save some cash.

hahaha yes, it doesn't go above 350W
Although I am aware that i'll have to change the power supply if I want to put one more GPU

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adding in more ram, sli... looks like another vid card too, now lets take consider overclocking and maybe watercooling, now you have an issue, and evga semi modular 850 is not that expensive, but it is better to have that capacaty to expand with now than to have to buy anotherone down the road.

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2 minutes ago, PCGuy_5960 said:

Yeah, if you want to stick to Intel though, get an i7-7700. Either way, don't get an overclockable i5!

is it that bad?! :/
An i7 goes a little over my budget 
and I still have to buy a monitor 

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