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FreeNAS 10 Corral Development Halted as Project Lead leaves iXsystems

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https://www.servethehome.com/freenas-corral-canned-development-essentially-halted-now/

https://forums.freenas.org/index.php?threads/important-announcement-regarding-freenas-corral.53502/

 

So iXsystems, the company behind the popular FreeNAS OS has had a huge shakeup over the last few days.

 

Jordan Hubbard, the project lead for the hugely anticipated FreeNAS 10 Corral release, has recently left the company. By doing so, he left a huge power vacuum, and the remaining part of the company has decided to downgrade FreeNAS 10 Corral to a "Technical Preview", and to divert resources into FreeNAS 9.x instead, with an upcoming release of 9.10.3 which will bring some of the FreeNAS Corral features down to the legacy stream.

 

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Here is a summary of the announcement’s description of what happened:

  • FreeNAS Corral was the project of a now departed project lead
  • When the lead left, the team supporting the old 9.10 codebase won an internal discussion of whether to support the new platform or to integrate features into the old system
  • The UI was based on a niche kit instead of a widely used standard so that was seen as a major hindrance as well as some items under the hood
  • A decision was made to essentially abandon Corral and instead build on the legacy code base.

 

So what will FreeNAS 9.10.3 and onward bring us? Well here's a sneak peak, already available to Nightly testers:

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  • Expand and improve support for jails and jail-based plugins: For maximum compatibility with lighter system requirements.
  • VM Support: We have added a new “VM” menu which allows you to host your own Virtual Machines on FreeNAS, landing in 9.10.3.
  • Docker support: As a Virtual Machine-driven service.
  • Improve support for DevOps-class alerting, PagerDuty, AWS Alerts, OpsGenie, and Slack (coming in 9.10.3).
  • Local and distributed S3 bucket support: Initial work landing in 9.10.3.
  • FreeBSD 11-stable base: Landing in 9.10.3.
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  • New Angular-based web UI: You can test-drive the early work now in 9.10 nightlies prior to the upcoming 9.10.3 release.

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So what do I think of this?


Damn! I had tested FreeNAS Corral out for about a month before deciding to ditch it for Windows Server 2016, but before that, I had been running FreeNAS 9.10 for a while and it was pretty smooth. This is a huge deal for the home-NAS market. I can see now that Corral was a passion project for the Project Lead, but the rest of the developers seem to prefer moving the features into 9.x rather than totally redoing the OS from the ground up.

 

I think this could have been handled better, for sure, by the team. Corral should have never made it out the door if the only stakeholder was the project lead.

 

What do you guys think?

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Damn shame ...

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It's sad to hear, but I'm still personally running FreeNAS 9.3 and didn't have any plans to upgrade in the near future, so it doesn't affect me too much...for now anyway.

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Just now, djdwosk97 said:

It's sad to hear, but I'm still personally running FreeNAS 9.3 and didn't have any plans to upgrade in the near future, so it doesn't affect me too much...for now anyway.

Why no plans to upgrade to 9.10?

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Just now, dalekphalm said:

Why no plans to upgrade to 9.10?

I'm afraid of something breaking in the processes, and I don't think there was anything in 9.10 over 9.3 that was compelling to warrant the risk. Unless there is something I looked over. 

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Fix for night theme

 

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Kind of a shame and I hope it doesn't impact future FreeNAS releases...  Hoping to maybe build my redundant storage NAS in the next couple of months and would like to test out FreeNAS on that one.

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6 minutes ago, djdwosk97 said:

I'm afraid of something breaking in the processes, and I don't think there was anything in 9.10 over 9.3 that was compelling to warrant the risk. Unless there is something I looked over. 

Well I don't believe there are any fundamental additions in 9.10 that would make there a large risk of something breaking in the process.

 

As for feature differences? No idea :P

4 minutes ago, ivan134 said:

Fix for night theme

 

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Try again. Seems that the "Auto Colour" option for fonts is broken, as when I pasted each of those quotes, I highlighted them and selected "Automatic" colour.

 

I went back and removed all formatting.

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4 minutes ago, dalekphalm said:

Well I don't believe there are any fundamental additions in 9.10 that would make there a large risk of something breaking in the process.

 

As for feature differences? No idea :P

Try again. Seems that the "Auto Colour" option for fonts is broken, as when I pasted each of those quotes, I highlighted them and selected "Automatic" colour.

 

I went back and removed all formatting.

Works now.

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Seems like they had all of their eggs in one basket. 

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4 minutes ago, DeadEyePsycho said:

Seems like they had all of their eggs in one basket. 

Yes, but for OS development, that's not unusual.

 

What IS unusual about this, is that it was mainly the project lead pushing it. And now he's gone, and 4 weeks later, they've dropped Corral already. The fact that development along the Corral stream was so heavily dependent on that one guy.

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1 hour ago, xVIP said:

Damn. Well, time to go back to 9.10 I suppose..

This definitely seems like it's going to be an issue with people...  Not having full release support will probably lead a lot of people to roll back to an earlier iteration with support.  Question is, how easy that will be.  If you do roll back to 9.10, maybe create a help file on any difficulties you experience. ;)

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What's the key advantage of FreeNAS vs. just making a minimum Linux install with Arch and using it in file server mode?

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Hmm it probably will never get finished then... :/

 

I planned to upgrade to Corral once it was "finished" and stable. I'm still on 9.10.1U4

 

 

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the way the title is worded, I though FreeNAS as a project was done for o.O

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1 hour ago, Bit_Guardian said:

What's the key advantage of FreeNAS vs. just making a minimum Linux install with Arch and using it in file server mode?

It just works ... less hassle such as dealing with drivers. It has all features builtin and great for home use due to web UI. Pretty much you can do everything on there. 

 

Well not planning to upgrade to FreeNAS 10 anyways due to 9.10.3 will support VM. I had some trouble back in beta phase with my server. 

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11 hours ago, MrUnknownEMC said:

It just works ... less hassle such as dealing with drivers. It has all features builtin and great for home use due to web UI. Pretty much you can do everything on there. 

That's kind of a misconception, at least as far as "drivers" go.  Sure, FreeNAS has a nice UI in the front end, but the back end is still FreeBSD, which is a very powerful NAS operating system without all the neat front-end stuff.  If you're building a NAS, you'll learn a ton more by trying to do it with a raw OS such as one of the Linux distros, or with FreeBSD; obviously the latter has the wonderful ZFS included which is just superb.

 

FWIW, my NAS is FreeBSD, built entirely on my own.  I didn't have to fight with any "drivers" or any such nonsense; I had it up and running, fully installed and with a new 16TB ZFS RAID10 (meaning 8 4TB drives) in less than 15 minutes total.  The only UI I used: the CLI.

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7 hours ago, jasonvp said:

FWIW, my NAS is FreeBSD, built entirely on my own.  I didn't have to fight with any "drivers" or any such nonsense; I had it up and running, fully installed and with a new 16TB ZFS RAID10 (meaning 8 4TB drives) in less than 15 minutes total.  The only UI I used: the CLI.

Tell me, how would that cater to a person with a less technical skillset? For example, my local computer shop?

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1 minute ago, FPSwithaWacomTablet said:

Tell me, how would that cater to a person with a less technical skillset? For example, my local computer shop?

Pretty well. Free online guides exist for just about everything at this level.

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4 minutes ago, Bit_Guardian said:

Pretty well. Free online guides exist for just about everything at this level.

Second question. How many people nowadays want to use a command-line interface without being scared shitless?

 

No, not populations. Proportions compared to the masses.

 

(Hint: I am of the masses)

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10 minutes ago, FPSwithaWacomTablet said:

Second question. How many people nowadays want to use a command-line interface without being scared shitless?

 

No, not populations. Proportions compared to the masses.

 

(Hint: I am of the masses)

Plenty of techies. As for people in general, there's nothing to be scared of in a CLI if you have a solid guide in front of you. No one's asking you to be an expert on the command line, just enter given commands in sequence.

 

Also, not quite sure who that second statement was aimed at.

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1 minute ago, Bit_Guardian said:

Plenty of techies. As for people in general, there's nothing to be scared of in a CLI if you have a solid guide in front of you. No one's asking you to be an expert on the command line, just enter given commands in sequence.

 

Also, not quite sure who that second statement was aimed at.

That's just me saying "SELL THIS IDEA OF A CLI WITHOUT GIVING ME A HEADACHE". Nothing harsh, that's all

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1 minute ago, FPSwithaWacomTablet said:

That's just me saying "SELL THIS IDEA OF A CLI WITHOUT GIVING ME A HEADACHE". Nothing harsh, that's all

CLI is faster, and it's pretty simple. It's just not pretty.

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1 hour ago, Bit_Guardian said:

CLI is faster, and it's pretty simple. It's just not pretty.

Yep, especially when problem can't be fix through UI. I manage all my plugins manually now through commands, because plugin updates usually takes a while for maintainer to update. 

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