Ryzen 5 1600X breaks 6 core records in extreme overclocking

[GEHORC]

 

https://ocaholic.ch/modules/news/article.php?storyid=16401

German extreme overclocker der8auer has overclocked the 1600X to 5.9 GHz.

For validation he used a bus speed of 130 MHz with a 45.5x multiplier with all 12 threads active.

For the actual benchmarks he dailed the frequency back down but still beat previous records by the i7-5820K.

All tests were actually performed in Febuary but results couldn't be published for NDA-reasons.

 

 

[Morgan MLGman]

I can't help but wonder, why all of the previous records are held by Haswell-E chips and not by Broadwell-E ones? Logically, Broadwell-E have higher IPC and besides that are almost exactly the same so the only explanation is that they don't overclock as well as their Haswell counterparts - is that accurate?

 

Regardless, impressive, especially considering the price difference.

[GEHORC]

He sais in the video (at least the German version) that Broadwell-E doesn't clock as high as Haswell-E and therefor couldn't brake the records.

[DocSwag]

6 minutes ago, Morgan MLGman said:

I can't help but wonder, why all of the previous records are held by Haswell-E chips and not by Broadwell-E ones? Logically, Broadwell-E have higher IPC and besides that are almost exactly the same so the only explanation is that they don't overclock as well as their Haswell counterparts - is that accurate?

 

Regardless, impressive, especially considering the price difference.

Maybe haswell just OCs better? Or the reason why PC guy 5960 never suggests the 6800k over a 5820k (can't find his exact username ).

[Morgan MLGman]

2 minutes ago, DocSwag said:

Maybe haswell just OCs better? Or the reason why PC guy 5960 never suggests the 6800k over a 5820k (can't find his exact username ).

Probably the reason... Still a weird thing because that makes older CPUs a better buy and there's no reason to spend a single $ more for a 6800K  

[Drak3]

20 minutes ago, Morgan MLGman said:

I can't help but wonder, why all of the previous records are held by Haswell-E chips and not by Broadwell-E ones? Logically, Broadwell-E have higher IPC and besides that are almost exactly the same so the only explanation is that they don't overclock as well as their Haswell counterparts - is that accurate?

 

Regardless, impressive, especially considering the price difference.

Broadwell is a worse overclocker than Haswell, and IPC improvements are pathetic, 3% is being generous. Most areas, it's more like 1%.

Big reason consumer versions of Broadwell see better performance is due to the iGPU sub arch on Broadwell that was (stupidly) not carried over to Sky or Kaby. L4 cache being a key to it.

[Hunter259]

Intel is going to have to improve their hyper threading tech. If they can bring that up to AMD's ability then it should crush them considering how much of an IPC advantage they have.

[The Benjamins]

2 minutes ago, Hunter259 said:

Intel is going to have to improve their hyper threading tech. If they can bring that up to AMD's ability then it should crush them considering how much of an IPC advantage they have.

It is funny how AMDs SMT is better then intels hyperthreading.

[Fonzie92]

37 minutes ago, Hunter259 said:

Intel is going to have to improve their hyper threading tech. If they can bring that up to AMD's ability then it should crush them considering how much of an IPC advantage they have.

Do what they did to the new KB pentiums to their i5s.

 

Oh wait, that's an i7 

[Hunter259]

Just now, Fonzie92 said:

Do what they did to the new KB pentiums to their i5s.

 

Oh wait, that's an i7 

Uh thats not at all what I'm talking about nor what this thread is about....

[Fonzie92]

1 minute ago, Hunter259 said:

Uh thats not at all what I'm talking about nor what this thread is about....

Oops I got hyper threading mixed with multi-threading 

[WereCat]

2 hours ago, Morgan MLGman said:

I can't help but wonder, why all of the previous records are held by Haswell-E chips and not by Broadwell-E ones? Logically, Broadwell-E have higher IPC and besides that are almost exactly the same so the only explanation is that they don't overclock as well as their Haswell counterparts - is that accurate?

 

Regardless, impressive, especially considering the price difference.

Broadwell-E behaves terribly under LN2. There are many cold bugs, etc.... Ryzen has none of these issues under LN2.

[Crossbred]

Anyone know the ipc from haswell-e to ryzen?

[GEHORC]

5 minutes ago, WereCat said:

Broadwell-E behaves terribly under LN2. There are many cold bugs, etc.... Ryzen has none of these issues under LN2.

Ryzen has its own issues. Once you go below 0°C the maximum achievable ram speeds will tank. And since Infinity Fabric (the stuff that connects the two 8mb blocks of cache) scales with ram speed this is bad.

[Morgan MLGman]

10 minutes ago, Crossbred said:

Anyone know the ipc from haswell-e to ryzen?

Ryzen is just around Broadwell in terms of IPC so it's a bit faster than Haswell in that regard.

[WereCat]

1 minute ago, GEHORC said:

Ryzen has its own issues. Once you go below 0°C the maximum achievable ram speeds will tank. And since Infinity Fabric (the stuff that connects the two 8mb blocks of cache) scales with ram speed this is bad.

Hmmm. This is first time I hear about this.

[N3v3r3nding_N3wb]

So, the actual topic is really interesting and all, but how d'you pronounce his name?  I know enough German pronunciation to get the first and last part, but the 8 throws me off.  What is the 8 supposed to be?

[Doobeedoo]

Cool. Though would be awesome if in couple of years we can have chips OC as such for daily use heh.

[dexT]

5 hours ago, huilun02 said:

Wow 5820K at 6Ghz

I wonder if it can be achieved on consumer air/aio cooling

No. I have a good 5820K and best I could do on sub-zero phase change was 5376MHz not stable in anything but a CPU-Z validation, 20th fastest 5820K in the world.

 

I have LN2/DICE hardware now but I'm not sure if I'll go at that chip again before I sell it.

[GEHORC]

11 hours ago, N3v3r3nding_N3wb said:

So, the actual topic is really interesting and all, but how d'you pronounce his name?  I know enough German pronunciation to get the first and last part, but the 8 throws me off.  What is the 8 supposed to be?

The 8 replaces a B. So his Name is "der Bauer" (the Farmer).

[Super1337victim]

13 hours ago, N3v3r3nding_N3wb said:

So, the actual topic is really interesting and all, but how d'you pronounce his name?  I know enough German pronunciation to get the first and last part, but the 8 throws me off.  What is the 8 supposed to be?

In german:   Der Bauer  ( 8 = B ).  Pronounciation ->Google Translate will help.

[N3v3r3nding_N3wb]

55 minutes ago, GEHORC said:

The 8 replaces a B. So his Name is "der Bauer" (the Farmer).

 

16 minutes ago, Super1337victim said:

In german:   Der Bauer  ( 8 = B ).  Pronounciation ->Google Translate will help.

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Alrighty, thank you.  I was assuming it was sounds, not just a single letter.

[Vode]

 

13 hours ago, N3v3r3nding_N3wb said:

So, the actual topic is really interesting and all, but how d'you pronounce his name?  I know enough German pronunciation to get the first and last part, but the 8 throws me off.  What is the 8 supposed to be?

dur bow her

 

Durr power

 

[dexT]

Yep just like the hockey skates.

[Nephilim]

On 12/04/2017 at 3:21 AM, Morgan MLGman said:

Probably the reason... Still a weird thing because that makes older CPUs a better buy and there's no reason to spend a single $ more for a 6800K  

To be fair Broadwell was designed to be super efficient for mobile and for server Xeons. It'll be interesting to see where Skylake-E goes.