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AMD Ryzen R5 1600X & 1500X Review - TechPowerUp

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I don't know why there's no 1600X & 1500X benchmarks thread but let's make one!

 

I won't describe what those CPUs are, I think all of us know it... For clarity:

Ryzen R5 1500X - 4 Cores / 8 Threads, 3,5GHz Base / 3,7GHz Boost clocks, 189$ MSRP

Ryzen R5 1600X - 6 Cores / 12 Threads, 3,6GHz Base / 4,0GHz Boost clocks, 249$ MSRP

 

Techpowerup released reviews of both of those, full links:

1600X : https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/Ryzen_5_1600X/

1500X : https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/Ryzen_5_1500X/

 

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The Ryzen 5 series from AMD competes with the entire spectrum of Intel's Core i5 quad-core "Kaby Lake" series, at prices ranging from $169 to $249. This puts Intel's high-volume Core i5-7600K and value-oriented i5-7400 in its crosshairs. Carved out of the same 14 nm "Summit Ridge" silicon as the eight-core Ryzen 7 series, the Ryzen 5 series consists of six-core and quad-core SKUs, which are further bolstered by SMT (simultaneous multi-threading), and unlocked base-clock multipliers across the board. SMT (and its Intel-implementation, HyperThreading) is something quad-core Core i5 parts lack, and unlocked multipliers is reserved only for the i5-7600K quad-core, and the $189 i3-7350K dual-core. What's more, the six-core Ryzen 5 parts feature a staggering 16 MB of L3 cache (compared to the paltry 6 MB of the price-comparable Core i5 quad-core parts), and the quad-core Ryzen parts feature a decent 8 MB. Given that AMD has made significant strides in improving per-core performance, and the software ecosystem is finally taking advantage of more than 4 logical CPUs, the Ryzen 5 series chips are extremely exciting on paper.

 

 

Taught by my previous thread with 1800X benchmarks, I'll just get straight to the point, GAMING!

 

Battlefield 1:

 

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Civilization VI:

 

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Hitman:

 

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Deus Ex: Mankind Divided:

 

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Rise of the Tomb Raider:

 

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Fallout 4:

 

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The Witcher 3:

 

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Sniper Elite 4:

 

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And very interesting results here with Minimum FPS charts:

 

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There are games in which the R5 lineup offers A LOT better minimum framerates compared to the competition, however there are games in which it isn't as good:

 

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And now, performance summary at different resolutions:

CPU Tests:

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1080p:

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1440p:

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4K:

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TPU's opinion:

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At $250, the Ryzen 5 1600X is giving you so much more than the i5-7600K - 6 cores, SMT enabling 12 logical CPUs, and 16 MB of L3 cache, and high clock speeds of 3.70 GHz, with 4.00 GHz boost, and XFR unlocking higher clocks if your cooling is good enough. We are happy to report that these greater features on paper, do also translate into performance that beats the Core i5-7600K at everything. It even beats the $330 Core i7-7700K in apps that scale with cores. You can go ahead and pair this CPU with a really expensive graphics card.

 

Personal opinion:

Value for money of those CPUs is just incredible. Judging from this review, i5s are a terrible purchase at their current prices right now...

I agree with everything quoted right above.

 

This is what most people have been waiting for, not the R7 lineup.

 

Sadly, platform setup issues are still present and configuring an AM4 platform properly is still too complicated for what it should be...

 

P.S. Post other benchmarks here as well! I will keep the original post updated. ^_^

 

UPDATE:

LTT's Ryzen 5 video:

Hardware Unboxed:

Hardware Canucks:

Paul's Hardware:

Gamer's Nexus:

Joker Productions:

Anandtech:

http://www.anandtech.com/show/11244/the-amd-ryzen-5-1600x-vs-core-i5-review-twelve-threads-vs-four

 

Tomshardware.com:

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/amd-ryzen-5-1600x-cpu-review,5014.html

 

pclab.pl (in Polish):

http://pclab.pl/art73682.html

 

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Okay one thread says they are terrible another says they are good. I'm getting confused....

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According to Tomshardware, the 1600x makes the 1700 more or less 'obsolete'.

 

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/amd-ryzen-5-1600x-cpu-review,5014.html

 

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Ryzen 5 1600X offers many of the same features and capabilities first introduced by Ryzen 7, except you get them at a more mainstream price point. That really isn't surprising since this CPU is based on the same die, albeit with a couple of disabled cores. Although Ryzen 5 1600X's idle power consumption is much higher than even the fastest Kaby Lake-based processors, it's more competitive under taxing workloads. Overall, the trimmed-down design boasts similar power consumption as the eight-core Ryzen 7s.

 

Due to its identical clock rates, AMD's Ryzen 5 1600X demonstrates similar performance as the Ryzen 7 1800X in lightly-threaded content creation and productivity tests. The 1600X also outpaces the Ryzen 7 1700 in a great many scenarios where its higher frequency weighs heavier than its core count deficit. This makes the 1700 a tougher sell.

 

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32 minutes ago, Morgan MLGman said:

We are happy to report that these greater features on paper, do also translate into performance that beats the Core i5-7600K at everything

wonder wtf TPU is smoking, I'd like some xD

 

 

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Wow those min fps counts are all over the place. I just hope r5 can claw back enough market share to get AMD back in the game. I suspect Intel will be hitting back hard next year so I'm not too hopeful it will work out in the end.

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Very impressed with the R5 lineup so far (but I have only skimmed through two reviews).

Maybe even more impressed than when R7 launched.

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I like the line from TPU 

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Intel has the gall to ask $189 for the dual-core i3-7350K with unlocked multiplier, and half the L3 cache.

 

We really should have been on 6 core mainstream CPUs a long time ago. At the very least I hope the 7600 replacement is a 6 core in the future, and the even the Pentium G chips become quadcores.
 

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The main issue for me is that I already have a 4790k and these chips don't really beat that so frankly I am having a hard time caring, though it might make intel care which I suppose is good (though the longer my chip stays relevant the better so.....not really.....)

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Let this finally be the death of the unlocked i5

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1 minute ago, Princess Cadence said:

Let this finally be the death of the unlocked i5

Ok.

 

Fine.

 

 

*Cries in corner*

Better dead than Red.

 

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Just now, Princess Cadence said:

Let this finally be the death of the unlocked i5

??? think you mean unlocked quad core since an i5 could essentially be a modern i7 in the future

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2 minutes ago, AresKrieger said:

The main issue for me is that I already have a 4790k and these chips don't really beat that so frankly I am having a hard time caring, though it might make intel care which I suppose is good (though the longer my chip stays relevant the better so.....not really.....)

Aye if you have anything from Haswell there's no interest from AMD or Intel really, unless you need more cores.

I'll be riding out my 5820K until Ryzen 2, or Coffeelake most likely.

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9 minutes ago, Castdeath97 said:

Okay one thread says their terrible another says their good. I'm getting confused....

PurePC has bad reviews of Ryzen chips, I believe they're unable to set up the platform properly because their R7-lineup review looks the same, showing gaming performance of 1800X on par with i3-7350K... Contrary to all other reviews. Also, the other thread is about the R5 1400.

8 minutes ago, zMeul said:

wonder wtf TPU is smoking, I'd like some xD

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Should you pick the Ryzen 5 1600X over Intel's offerings? Most definitely. The similarly-priced Core i5-7600K is convincingly beaten by the 1600X across the board, and the 1600X even registers wins against the much costlier i7-7700K in some tests. These chips give you so much more, and the average frame rates are on par with Intel, but if you do nothing other than gaming on your $1,500 rig, you're still better off opting for an Intel Core i5-7600K or 7700K. If however, you're looking for a more wholesome package that gives you the power to handle media-productivity tasks, as well as great gaming performance, then the Ryzen 5 1600X makes for an incredible option. Intel's $200-350 CPU lineup is certainly in a bit of a pickle.

 

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4 minutes ago, AresKrieger said:

The main issue for me is that I already have a 4790k and these chips don't really beat that so frankly I am having a hard time caring, though it might make intel care which I suppose is good (though the longer my chip stays relevant the better so.....not really.....)

 

I am in the same camp with you. Got my 4770k overclocked and I have no reason to upgrade to anything since I get what I want in games and I really don't have any use for more cores at the moment.

Guess we are good for another couple of years ? ^^

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1 minute ago, Valentyn said:

Ryzen 2

Do you mean Pinnacle ridge? 

1 minute ago, Valentyn said:

I'll be riding out my 5820K until Ryzen 2, or Coffeelake most likely.

I'll do the same, let's hope that X299 is not too good and that pinnacle ridge doesn't use CCXs... :D

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1 minute ago, WereCat said:

I am in the same camp with you. Got my 4770k overclocked and I have no reason to upgrade to anything since I get what I want in games and I really don't have any use for more cores at the moment.

Guess we are good for another couple of years ? ^^

I am still running a Phenom 2 X4 955 BE, so anything is an upgrade at this point :P

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4 minutes ago, Valentyn said:

I like the line from TPU 

We really should have been on 6 core mainstream CPUs a long time ago. At the very least I hope the 7600 replacement is a 6 core in the future, and the even the Pentium G chips become quadcores.

From what I have been reading, more or less the future Canon Lake is going to be Celeron and Pentium 2c/4t

i3 going to be 4c/4t

i5 going to be 4c/8t

i7 going to be 6c/12t

 

Which is only happening thanks to AMD pushing the standard, if Intel could game alone we'd have flagship i7 on 4c/8t forever, so yes I'm very satisfied with these recent changes on the market.

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1 minute ago, PCGuy_5960 said:

Do you mean Pinnacle ridge? 

I'll do the same, let's hope that X299 is not too good and that pinnacle ridge doesn't use CCXs... :D

They'll most certainly use CCX's, but AMD have stated they already know precisely where they can make easy changes in the next iteration for big IPC gains.

 

That means sorting out the Infinity Fabric bandwidth. Ryzen R7's is 22GB/s, while it can apparently scale all the way to 512GB/s.
I'd say even doubling or tripling the bandwidth for consumer line should really really help; never mind the other process and CPU improvements they'll most likely add.

Then add in a stronger Integrated Memory Controller and all Ryzen's bottlenecks are gone.

 

As for x299, cost is going to be a major factor for me. AMD's already shown me they can match Intel in their 8cores for less than half the price for what I need. So Intel better step up to the challenge. Either cheaper products, or they need the performance and platform goodies to get me to buy.

When I got my x99 system I had the choice of AMD FX, or Haswell-E, that's a no brainer. Not so much at the moment though :D

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Where the hell are the 1400 and 1600 benchmarks tho :/. I wanna know how they OC so that we can see whether they're worth buying over the "X" variants...

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5 minutes ago, Urishima said:

I am still running a Phenom 2 X4 955 BE, so anything is an upgrade at this point :P

Not a bad system! I refurbished and sorted out a Phenom II 940 system December for a friend.

Slapped in a SSD on a PCIe card, and an old GTX 470; and she's now got her first desktop. Still purring along, and even plays a bit of WoW for her :P

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3 minutes ago, i_build_nanosuits said:

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For some reason TPU, gets much better Ryzen results than all other reviewers (with the exception of Joker......)

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Just now, PCGuy_5960 said:

For some reason TPU, gets much better Ryzen results than all other reviewers (with the exception of Joker......)

i'll check all the videos, and comment later once i have a good idea:

 

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1 minute ago, i_build_nanosuits said:

i'll check all the videos, and comment later once i have a good idea:

Added more sources to the OP for a wider comparison! At the time of writing the post, there weren't as many reviews out yet - TPU was one of the first ones.

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2 minutes ago, i_build_nanosuits said:

i'll check all the videos, and comment later once i have a good idea:

 

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