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i7 7700k and Dark Rock 3 - 95C+ @stock

Nubium
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9 hours ago, Nubium said:

It stops after 45s because "Core #0 over maximum value !".

What temp does it hit and what was displayed for the core voltage?

8 hours ago, Remixt said:

It's pretty normal for the 7700k to exceed 90c. I hit 89c on that chip with a X3fan Radiator setup. The tim they used on the 7700k is crap which is why many (including me) have decided to delid and replace the tim.

As I mentioned earlier in the thread, the high temps of the 7700k compared to soldered cpus is due to the gap caused by adhesive around the die and not the TIM. The TIM on the die is actually excellent.

Delidding results in lower temps due to the adhesive being removed around the die and not the TIM being replaced.

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7 hours ago, WoodenMarker said:

What temp does it hit and what was displayed for the core voltage?

As I mentioned earlier in the thread, the high temps of the 7700k compared to soldered cpus is due to the gap caused by adhesive around the die and not the TIM. The TIM on the die is actually excellent.

Delidding results in lower temps due to the adhesive being removed around the die and not the TIM being replaced.

Hmm, I'll have to check that out. Do we know this for sure or is it speculation?

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I just reinstalled the cooler (took some pictures before and after, if you are interested I'll upload) and noticed that one of the screws on the mounting bracket had 0.5mm gap between the nut and the motherboard so I thought that was causing the high temperatures, but there was no effect after tighten and reinstalling the cooler. It's still thermal throttling at stock clocks and voltage set to auto after 10 minutes of stability test in AIDA64.

 

I set the voltage to 1.2v as suggested earlier and ran the stability test again for about 20 minutes and it seems to be ok. The temps were going up and down between 65C and 80C during the test. Is that a normal behavior? Check the graph of the CPU Core - ptF8FZU.png

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15 hours ago, Remixt said:

Hmm, I'll have to check that out. Do we know this for sure or is it speculation?

I don't remember exactly but the closest to a test of the stock TIM I've read is from a ~100pg long forum thread where it was scraped off, broken down and tested for conductivity. I think it was on OC3D forums. 

That being said, I've personally seen agreeing results by using other TIM on the die. Just about any other TIM used on the die will perform much better after delidding if the adhesive around the die is removed. When the adhesive is left on, delidding results in worse temps even with liquid metal.

10 hours ago, Nubium said:

I just reinstalled the cooler (took some pictures before and after, if you are interested I'll upload) and noticed that one of the screws on the mounting bracket had 0.5mm gap between the nut and the motherboard so I thought that was causing the high temperatures, but there was no effect after tighten and reinstalling the cooler. It's still thermal throttling at stock clocks and voltage set to auto after 10 minutes of stability test in AIDA64.

I set the voltage to 1.2v as suggested earlier and ran the stability test again for about 20 minutes and it seems to be ok. The temps were going up and down between 65C and 80C during the test. Is that a normal behavior? Check the graph of the CPU Core - 

Are you tightening the coolers in an 'X' pattern by alternating between screws? An even mount is important.

What speed are you running the fan at? 80c seems a bit high for 1.2v

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Are you tightening the coolers in an 'X' pattern by alternating between screws? An even mount is important.

- Yes, that was how I tightened the screws.

 

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What speed are you running the fan at? 80c seems a bit high for 1.2v

- I used smart profile that was bumping the speed to 100% (~2000 RPM) after 65C. I know it was a bit overkill in normal use case but I was desperate :)

 

I packed the mobo, cpu and cooler and I'll be sending it for warranty service tomorrow, so this thread can be considered as closed for now :)

 

Meanwhile, I installed my old AM3 + Phenom 955 (140W CPU) + Xigmatek 1283 setup and it's running waaay cooler - fa1yPvZ.png
:D 

 

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On 4/4/2017 at 1:11 PM, Nubium said:

It stops after 45s because "Core #0 over maximum value !".

 

I used about 80% of the syringe that was shipped with Dark Rock 3. I'll post pictures of both CPU and Cooler surfaces when I remove the cooler tomorrow. I have to wait until tomorrow to get a restock of the thermal paste in a local store, because they had only some crappy left. Btw, I'll be using Arctic Silver 5, I've read in the forums that it's a decent one, I guess it will do the job.

 

Anything to report back yet?

I am thinking they may be just too much thermal paste, or the mounting is loose, etc...but we will have to see for sure.

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3 minutes ago, -rascal- said:

 

Anything to report back yet?

I am thinking they may be just too much thermal paste, or the mounting is loose, etc...but we will have to see for sure.

I reinstalled it yesterday but there was little to no effect - check my post from yesterday:

 

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18 minutes ago, Nubium said:

I reinstalled it yesterday but there was little to no effect - check my post from yesterday:

 

Oh sorry, totally missed that...just jumped to the end of the thread.

Hmm...weird..

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And that kids is why I will never buy any CPU with TIM inside. Only soldered from now on.

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A little update on my case - it was a bad unit after all. I got my replacement today and with the new CPU I can barely reach 75C after 1 hour OCCT which seems fine to me :)

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