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APOLLO (2 CPU LGA1366 Server | InWin PP689 | 24 Disks Capacity) - by alpenwasser [COMPL. 2014-MAY-10]

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Mounting the PSU, Testing LSI Controller


Finally, UPDATE TIME! :)

Yeah,  it's taking  a lot  longer  to finish  this than  I'd
initially  hoped  (doesn't  it  always with  these  sort  of
projects...). But I've  been working on  it in the  last few
weeks and now finally have something to share. :)



PSU Fitting Issue

The  PSU  slides into  this  case  through an  opening  from
behind,  and since  the case  isn't really  made for  normal
ATX-sized PSUs (but server PSUs instead, it's a rather tight
fit. To be more  specific: The PSU in its  stock config does
not fit,  the screws  for the  fan grill  and the  fan grill
itself bump  up against the  case. An easy fix  though, just
needed to remove the fan grill on the PSU.

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aw--apollo--2014-04-01--01--psu-bad-fit.

And voilà:

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aw--apollo--2014-04-01--02--psu-good-fit

Furthermore,  since  normal  server PSUs  usually  blow  air
through  along   their  longitudinal   axis,  there   is  no
ventilation hole  on the case  for a fan  on the top  of the
PSU, which most of today's  PSUs have. Not to worry, I still
had an  old Aquacomputer rad  grill laying around. A  bit of
dremeling should  be able  to fix this  problem. Marking for
cutting:

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aw--apollo--2014-04-01--03--psu-cutout-m

And with the grill mounted:
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aw--apollo--2014-04-01--04--psu-cutout.j


Bracket Collision

Another issue  with mounting a  PSU in the case  that wasn't
intended to be mounted in this case: The bracket for the PSU
does not quite line up correctly with the power inlet.

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aw--apollo--2014-04-01--05--psu-back-col


The  power plug  can still  be connected,  but the  PSU sits
crooked in the case and it's a huge pain to mount like this.

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aw--apollo--2014-04-01--06--psu-back-col


Again, a little bit of cutting was required:

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To give you an idea of how the PSU fits into the case:
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aw--apollo--2014-04-01--08--psu-mounted.

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aw--apollo--2014-04-01--09--psu-mounted.


Needed   to   hook   up   some  HDDs   to   test   the   LSI
controller. Looks very ghetto, worked like a charm. :)

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aw--apollo--2014-04-01--10--hardware-tes

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aw--apollo--2014-04-01--11--ghetto-disk-


Next Up...

Manufacturing  the  drive   cages,  the  so-called  pièce de
resistance... :D


So long
-aw

 


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Looks very ghetto

 

Well that's the understatement of the week :P


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FINALLY! AN UPDATE! *cries of joy*

 

IKR?! :D

 

FUCKING FINALLY! YOU MADE MY DAY BY UPDATING A BUILD OF YOURS!

 

Happy to be of service. ;)

 

Well that's the understatement of the week :P

 

Maybe? :P

 

LOOKS SWEET :D

Thanks! :)


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Why the fuck haven't I seen this yet :( .  Fucking awesome mate.  Gotta love the dedicated custom builds like this that also look alright.  All we need now is a good looking mining rig with that new asrock motherboard.  Nice job :D


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Why the fuck haven't I seen this yet :( .  Fucking awesome mate.  Gotta love the dedicated custom builds like this that also look alright.  All we need now is a good looking mining rig with that new asrock motherboard.  Nice job :D

Haha, np mate, build log section is plenty busy these days, I certainly can't keep

up with it anymore, surely there's plenty of stuff I've missed that would have been

worthy of my attention.

And that Asrock board: Blessed strong language, do want! :D


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I like the Ghetto drive cage


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The Disk Racks


A.k.a. the main part of this undertaking. :)


As mentioned elsewhere,  one of the two main  problem of our
current  server is  that it  only has  seven HDD  slots, and
they're  already all  filled up. The  only way  to get  more
storage is to  install larger disks, which  isn't really all
that optimal.

One of the  main points of this build was  to have more disk
slots. The PP689 only  offers four in its  stock form, which
you can upgrade  to a maximum of  thirteen drives. You would
need to buy another  four-disk enclosure (which btw. I could
not find anywhere to buy), and a five-disk enclosure for the
5.25"  bays. Since 13  drives aren't  really that  many, and
since these enclosures aren't exactly cheap, I decided to go
another route.

It took me  a while to figure  out how to do it,  but in the
end this  is what I came  up with. I had very  generous help
from one of my neighbours, who has a mill and a lathe at his
disposal, as well as plenty of time (he's a pensioneer :D ).


So off we went:


The Mill


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First Steps

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The Mill can also serve as a drill press. The drill chuck he
looks ridiculously huge when you  put a small drill bit into
it (he said they didn't have the smaller model in stock when
he needed to buy his, so he went with the large one). :D

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aw--apollo--2014-04-02--04--drill-chuck.


Stumbled  upon this  when  going through  my pics. My  dog's
girlfriend,  basically  (she's  a labrador  and  belongs  to
another one of our neighbours). I was dogsitting here for an
evening a  few weeks back. She  can be a bit  hyperactive at
times, but is a very lovely dog. :)

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aw--apollo--2014-04-02--05--sleepy.jpeg


Drilling and Milling

Lots of holes  needed to be drilled for the  pop rivets that
were going to hold it all together.

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aw--apollo--2014-04-02--06--drill-drill-

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aw--apollo--2014-04-02--07--drill-drill-


Milling out the slots for the screwheads:

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Phase I Complete

The side  panels of  the disk racks  completed. Testing with
some broken old HDDs I had laying around to make sure it all
fits as it should. It does. :)

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aw--apollo--2014-04-02--09--cage-panels.

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aw--apollo--2014-04-02--10--cage-panels.

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Rail Detail

This is how the construct looks  on the side where you slide
in the disks. You  can see the pop rives I  used to assemble
it, the slots which are  pictured being milled above for the
screwheads and the screws on the disks. You can also see the
recesses into which the screws mounted on the HDDs lock. The
system works very well.

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aw--apollo--2014-04-02--12--cage-rail-de

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aw--apollo--2014-04-02--13--cage-rail-de


Ventilation

Obviously, 24 HDDs  are going to put out some  heat, so some
ventilation  is  required. I'm  using  six  Papst  fans  for
that. The fans  will be bolted  onto the panels with  some L
profiles. Unfortunately,  120  mm  fans  have  105  mm  hole
distance, and HDDs are ~100 mm wide, so it's not possible to
mount  the  fan  on  both  sides, only  two  screws  can  be
used. It's not really a problem though, two screws tightened
down nicely give sufficient stability.

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Mounting Brackets

The panels  are mounted to  the bottom  and top of  the case
with screws. To have some  leeway in adjusting things, there
are slots instead of round holes in some places.

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aw--apollo--2014-04-02--18--disk-rack-mo


Top:

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aw--apollo--2014-04-02--19--disk-rack-mo


Bottom:

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aw--apollo--2014-04-02--20--disk-rack-mo


Fan Mounting

Since the  fan screws need  to be tightened  rather heavily,
the  screws  exert  quite  a  bit of  pressure  on  the  fan
frames. To prevent the fan  frames from being crushed and/or
breaking, we made some brass bushings that take the brunt of
the pressure.

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aw--apollo--2014-04-02--21--fan-bushings


And Mounted

And finally the disk racks are mounted inside the case. :)

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aw--apollo--2014-04-02--22--disk-racks.j

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aw--apollo--2014-04-02--23--disk-racks.j


Disk Mounting

The Disks just  slide into the slots and lock  into place in
the recesses  you can see  above. Since I can't  tighten the
screws, I'm using  Loctite to prevent them  from falling out
due  to vibration. I  tried to  get some  screws similar  to
those Lian Li use for their  HDD mounting, but the only ones
I could find were so expensive that they'd have cost me more
than 100 USD. So yeah, nope...

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aw--apollo--2014-04-02--24--disk-screws.



There's still lots to do, but  that was by far the most work
intensive part of  this build, took us quite a  while to get
it done. And no, it won't be painted or anything, the server
will stand  in a closed  room in our  appartment anyway. I'd
have loved to make it all pretty and nice, but at the moment
I just don't have the time.


So long, and until next time. :)
-aw

 


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Very nice work!!


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Very nice!!


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Posted · Original PosterOP

Very nice work!!

 

Thanks! :)

 

Man that is awesome! Haven't seen anyone make their own disk mounts before ;) NICE!

 

Yeah, it was a lot of work, even with the help from my neighbour. But it allows

me to best ulitize the space available to mount as many disks as possible.

 

Nothing but high quality stuff from you alpenwasser! :)

 

One does what one can, thanks! :)

Very nice!!

Yes it is. :D

(thanks ;)).


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Good lord that's going to be a lot of storage in a small space.


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Good lord that's going to be a lot of storage in a small space.

That's the idea, yes. :D

Although for now I won't have it filled (that's also part of the concept, have

room for future expansion). Probably only 13 drives or so for now, not totally

sure yet.

I also contemplated going with a proper rack enclosure with lots of drive slots

(say, a Norco, for example), but Norcos are very hard to get here, and if you do

manage to find one, shipping will be very expensive since it's usually shipped

from north america or asia. And a Supermicro case with 24 slots? Almost as expensive

as this whole machine (although those usually include a server PSU, but still).

So yeah, overall I'm very happy with how this has turned out. The only thing it's

lacking is being properly hot-swappable, but meh, I can live without that, it's

just a home server after all, doesn't matter if I need to have a few minutes downtime

for installing/removing drives. :)


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I also contemplated going with a proper rack enclosure with lots of drive slots

(say, a Norco, for example), but Norcos are very hard to get here, and if you do

manage to find one, shipping will be very expensive since it's usually shipped

from north america or asia. And a Supermicro case with 24 slots? Almost as expensive

as this whole machine (although those usually include a server PSU, but still).

 

 

That's when E-Bay comes in handy, you can find used enclosures cheaper and if you are doing your own guts anyway all the more.


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That's when E-Bay comes in handy, you can find used enclosures cheaper and if you are doing your own guts anyway all the more.

Tried that, and I did find a few offers, but everything what would have been suitable

fell either into the "ships to Switzerland for >200 USD" or the "doesn't ship to Switzerland"

category (just talking about the case here). But that's the thing with large enclosures,

they're usually expensive to ship, such is life.

The M/B, CPUs, RAM and the LSI controllers I did actually get on eBay, and for pretty

decent prices. The M/B turned out to be a bit on the expensive side after all was said

and done (200 USD + 60 USD shipping + ~60 USD taxes here), but the CPUs I got for about

60 USD per piece IIRC (+ ~40 USD taxes, not sure anymore), and the RAM was a decent price

as well. The LSI 9211-8i currently goes for ~100 USD on eBay, new in box (retail price

where I live is still ~350 USD).

But yes, in general eBay is a pretty good source for not-quite-current-gen hardware IME. :)


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Are you gonna use rubber isolator on the drive cages?

 

Tought about it, but no. Couldn't find a solution what would not have cost me

tons of money. Lamptron makes some nice rubber washer mounts, but those cost like

5 USD per HDD, which makes >100 USD for all drives. Nope. :D

Not even eBay was helpful in this unfortunately.

Let's be honest though: Before a few years ago, none of our drives were ever

mounted with dampening and things seemed to work fine for many decades without

it, so it should be OK. Noise isn't really a big issue in this machine. The only

real concern is the HDDs getting damaged from the vibrations. If I suddenly

start losing disks left and right I'll know why, RMA them and make some modifications.

The important data is backed up anyway, and most of the drives are new-ish, so

that would still be a manageable scenario.

So, for the time being I'm just going to see what happens and keep an eye

on things.

 

Even with the help of your dogs girlfriend ;)

Well, she was more of a motivational coach than an actual help. :D


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