I think we have a weight problem

[MadyTehWolfie]

Title says it all. I'm just sitting in class and noticed that majority of the people on my campus are over weight or hit with the ugly stick. More so with girls then the guys though. I understand some people may get screw metabolism wise but there can't be this many with the issue. It's a shame because schools supposed to be a target rich environment....So far it just makes me want to cry that these people well...Just look gross for the most part. Though there are good looking people here I'd say it's about a 60-70% ugly to 40-30% good looking. Ugh Someone tell me of a school in the USA that hasn't been slapped with the ugly stick or super sized in all the wrong places.

[JoeCoke]

Sadly it's true. The world is getting fatter and fatter. The sadder part to me is, it's not that hard to turn it around. I went low carb less than a year ago and I've lost almost 100 pounds, and I'm getting closer and closer to my goal weight. But people are lazy and make excuses. When I hear people bring up their "bad metabolism" I want to laugh, especially because I myself used to tell myself that. It's bullshit. Eating right is so easy. I know there actually are people that can't lose weight due to serious health problems, but those people are few and far between. But the sickening thing is the vast majority of obese people will use that excuse, when it's a flat out lie, discrediting those few who actually can't help it.

 

The world (not just America despite popular belief) has a major weight problem, and nobody is doing anything about but making excuses.

 

But seriously, anyone that is overweight on these forums, just try low carb. It's the best damn way to lose weight.

[Guest Kloaked]

7 minutes ago, 2Buck said:

But seriously, anyone that is overweight on these forums, just try low carb. It's the best damn way to lose weight.

Or you know, just don't eat so damn much and stop eating fast food every day.

[dalekphalm]

7 minutes ago, 2Buck said:

Sadly it's true. The world is getting fatter and fatter. The sadder part to me is, it's not that hard to turn it around. I went low carb less than a year ago and I've lost almost 100 pounds, and I'm getting closer and closer to my goal weight. But people are lazy and make excuses. When I hear people bring up their "bad metabolism" I want to laugh, especially because I myself used to tell myself that. It's bullshit. Eating right is so easy. I know there actually are people that can't lose weight due to serious health problems, but those people are few and far between. But the sickening thing is the vast majority of obese people will use that excuse, when it's a flat out lie, discrediting those few who actually can't help it.

 

The world (not just America despite popular belief) has a major weight problem, and nobody is doing anything about but making excuses.

 

But seriously, anyone that is overweight on these forums, just try low carb. It's the best damn way to lose weight.

While some of what you offer is great general advice, a low card diet isn't always what's best for others trying to lose weight.

 

Low calorie diets are generally best, in general, because you want to create a calorie deficiency. You can achieve that using low carb, but you need to be careful of what else you're adding in to substitute carbs. There is no one single "best diet ever", because if there was, we'd all be using it.

 

The best diet is one that someone will stick with, even after reaching their goals. Moderation is key - not too many carbs, not too many fats, etc, but you don't want to eliminate anything either. Carbs and fats are still necessary for a healthy diet.

[JoeCoke]

1 minute ago, Kloaked said:

Or you know, just don't eat so damn much and stop eating fast food every day.

True in some cases, but I never ate fast food and didn't eat that much and yet I was still obese. The quantity is important obviously, but the quality of the food you consume is a lot more important. I know this first hand.

[MadyTehWolfie]

I think the reason why women don't change more so then men is sadly they still get laid while being fat and the fact we have this big is beautiful thing going on. I'm not going to turn my nose at someone with a average body or a little chunky if they look presentable but when your are just plain fat I'm sorry it's not handsome or beautiful it's gross not to mention it makes having sex so much harder and leads to pretty awful smelling parts to say the least. 

[JoeCoke]

2 minutes ago, dalekphalm said:

While some of what you offer is great general advice, a low card diet isn't always what's best for others trying to lose weight.

 

Low calorie diets are generally best, in general, because you want to create a calorie deficiency. You can achieve that using low carb, but you need to be careful of what else you're adding in to substitute carbs. There is no one single "best diet ever", because if there was, we'd all be using it.

 

The best diet is one that someone will stick with, even after reaching their goals. Moderation is key - not too many carbs, not too many fats, etc, but you don't want to eliminate anything either. Carbs and fats are still necessary for a healthy diet.

I understand it varies from person to person, which is why I only said to try low carb. I tried all sorts of other things back in my obese days and this is the only thing that gave me results. (again, that's just my personal experience)

 

Really, I don't even really pay attention to how many carbs I take in. I just eat lots of meat and greens and I cut out sugar almost completely.

[dalekphalm]

3 minutes ago, 2Buck said:

True in some cases, but I never ate fast food and didn't eat that much and yet I was still obese. The quantity is important obviously, but the quality of the food you consume is a lot more important. I know this first hand.

"Quality" is an entirely subjective term. You can eat tons of really high quality foods, all made with "natural" and "organic" ingredients, and it can still contribute to making you overweight.

 

Most people blame processed foods - which is what I assume you mean by "low quality". The problem with processed foods isn't that they are in and of themselves low quality or less healthy, it's just that processed foods tend to be more calorie dense, and thus overeating is easier. They also may or may not have an imbalance of undesirable nutrients (eg: high level of fat compared to the number of other nutrients) - but that's on a per item basis, and not a general rule for processed foods.

[AshleyAshes]

46 minutes ago, MadyTehWolfie said:

Title says it all. I'm just sitting in class and noticed that majority of the people on my campus are over weight or hit with the ugly stick. More so with girls then the guys though. I understand some people may get screw metabolism wise but there can't be this many with the issue. It's a shame because schools supposed to be a target rich environment....So far it just makes me want to cry that these people well...Just look gross for the most part. Though there are good looking people here I'd say it's about a 60-70% ugly to 40-30% good looking. Ugh Someone tell me of a school in the USA that hasn't been slapped with the ugly stick or super sized in all the wrong places.

I find it pretty ironic that the OP is criticizing people on their appearances when this is what the OP looks like.  I'm not even trolling, the OP posted these to this very forum.

 

 

Those who live in glass houses should not throw stones.

[Mira Yurizaki]

Part of the reason why diets don't really work is your body adapters to the lower caloric intake such that it becomes more efficient. You need to include a lifestyle change of sorts, like getting out and exercising.

 

Also the more you weigh, the more weight you can easily shed off. Which is why I think anything that says "you can lose x pounds fast!" is silly for someone who's not already in the red zone. It becomes harder to shed off the same amount of weight once you reach a certain point (the dreaded plateau)

[JoeCoke]

5 minutes ago, dalekphalm said:

"Quality" is an entirely subjective term. You can eat tons of really high quality foods, all made with "natural" and "organic" ingredients, and it can still contribute to making you overweight.

 

Most people blame processed foods - which is what I assume you mean by "low quality". The problem with processed foods isn't that they are in and of themselves low quality or less healthy, it's just that processed foods tend to be more calorie dense, and thus overeating is easier. They also may or may not have an imbalance of undesirable nutrients (eg: high level of fat compared to the number of other nutrients) - but that's on a per item basis, and not a general rule for processed foods.

By low quality I mean how bad it is for you, whether that be carbs, calories or whatever.

[dalekphalm]

1 minute ago, M.Yurizaki said:

Part of the reason why diets don't really work is your body adapters to the lower caloric intake such that it becomes more efficient. You need to include a lifestyle change of sorts, like getting out and exercising.

 

Also the more you weigh, the more weight you can easily shed off. Which is why I think anything that says "you can lose x pounds fast!" is silly for someone who's not already in the red zone. It becomes harder to shed off the same amount of weight once you reach a certain point (the dreaded plateau)

In terms of research studies, you've got that backwards.

 

Exercising is a terrible way to lose weight. Yes, extreme exercising can lead to temporary weight loss, but study after study shows that most people, even while continuing to exercise at the same rate, eventually relapse to their former weight (or even higher).

 

Exercise is important to general health, but your diet is much more important when dealing with permanent weight loss.

[Volbet]

26 minutes ago, MadyTehWolfie said:

I think the reason why women don't change more so then men is sadly they still get laid while being fat and the fact we have this big is beautiful thing going on. I'm not going to turn my nose at someone with a average body or a little chunky if they look presentable but when your are just plain fat I'm sorry it's not handsome or beautiful it's gross not to mention it makes having sex so much harder and leads to pretty awful smelling parts to say the least. 

Or it could simply be becuase men, on average, have a higher muscle mass than women. Just a thought.

 

Also, the "big is beautiful" fad is not really a new thing. If you at model photos from beginning of the 20th century, there were a lot of quite obese female models. 

In that time, big was considered beautiful since most people couldn't afford getting fat. 

Which is a pretty common thing when it comes to beauty. It's a "forbidden fruit principle" if you will. People tend to desire what they can't have.

This is also why obese women are seen as very beautiful and sexual in some Middle Eastern cultures.

Skinny models weren't really a thing in teh West untill the mid-1960's. 

 

Lastly, I have never known anyone that changed their weight due to the prospect of getting laid or the prospect of a relationship. 

We live in a world were pornography is readily available in your own home and companionship is a few mousclicks away.

If people can't find someone to sleep with them, then they'll simply handle that business themselves.

[JoeCoke]

5 minutes ago, dalekphalm said:

In terms of research studies, you've got that backwards.

 

Exercising is a terrible way to lose weight. Yes, extreme exercising can lead to temporary weight loss, but study after study shows that most people, even while continuing to exercise at the same rate, eventually relapse to their former weight (or even higher).

 

Exercise is important to general health, but your diet is much more important when dealing with permanent weight loss.

That moment when you lost almost a hundred pounds and have never exercised.

 

Yeah, yeah, I need to exercise and I intend to, but people really do put too much credit behind exercise when it comes to weight loss.

[Mira Yurizaki]

1 minute ago, dalekphalm said:

In terms of research studies, you've got that backwards.

 

Exercising is a terrible way to lose weight. Yes, extreme exercising can lead to temporary weight loss, but study after study shows that most people, even while continuing to exercise at the same rate, eventually relapse to their former weight (or even higher).

 

Exercise is important to general health, but your diet is much more important when dealing with permanent weight loss.

Ah right, I forgot a mantra I heard: kitchen for your weight, exercise for your health.

However I will still maintain that a "diet" doesn't really work. You need a life style change.

[Guest Kloaked]

7 minutes ago, AshleyAshes said:

I find it pretty ironic that the OP is criticizing people on their appearances when this is what the OP looks like.  I'm not even trolling, the OP posted these to this very forum.

 

Those who live in glass houses should not throw stones.

Pretty sure they're more getting at people being overweight. If you're taking offense to that, hit the gym?

[Guest Kloaked]

8 minutes ago, dalekphalm said:

In terms of research studies, you've got that backwards.

 

Exercising is a terrible way to lose weight. Yes, extreme exercising can lead to temporary weight loss, but study after study shows that most people, even while continuing to exercise at the same rate, eventually relapse to their former weight (or even higher).

 

Exercise is important to general health, but your diet is much more important when dealing with permanent weight loss.

This is the part people miss who try to lose weight. Most of your weight loss is going to be done in the kitchen. As the saying in tech goes: garbage in, garbage out.

 

We did a weight loss challenge at work and two people here didn't exercise at all and just ate better - ended up losing more weight than people who were exercising. Lmao

[AshleyAshes]

 

11 minutes ago, Kloaked said:

Pretty sure they're more getting at people being overweight.

Let's review the first post.

1 hour ago, MadyTehWolfie said:

 Though there are good looking people here I'd say it's about a 60-70% ugly to 40-30% good looking. Ugh Someone tell me of a school in the USA that hasn't been slapped with the ugly stick

Nope, definitely critical of people for being 'Ugly'.

[Guest Kloaked]

1 minute ago, AshleyAshes said:

 

Let's review the first post.

Nope, definitely critical of people for being 'Ugly'.

Because fat people are ugly.

[AshleyAshes]

Just now, Kloaked said:

Because fat people are ugly.

Yeah, you try to rationalize your way around this as much as you want.  The OP is being a massive hypocrite but you're white knighting is cute.

[Guest Kloaked]

Just now, AshleyAshes said:

Yeah, you try to rationalize your way around this as much as you want.  The OP is being a massive hypocrite but you're white knighting is cute.

White knighting implies that I in some way "like" OP, and I have no idea who OP is.

 

Your personal attack doesn't make my point any less valid.

[dalekphalm]

21 minutes ago, M.Yurizaki said:

Ah right, I forgot a mantra I heard: kitchen for your weight, exercise for your health.

However I will still maintain that a "diet" doesn't really work. You need a life style change.

Well a diet and a life style change are, in essence, the same thing.

 

You change your diet by making life style changes - whether those include a bit of exercise, or buying from the farmers market, or just making a few extra home cooked meals, etc.

[Mira Yurizaki]

I did want to go back and say about my OP that I was not trying to say "don't diet, just exercise".

 

19 minutes ago, dalekphalm said:

Well a diet and a life style change are, in essence, the same thing.

 

You change your diet by making life style changes - whether those include a bit of exercise, or buying from the farmers market, or just making a few extra home cooked meals, etc.

When I say diet, as in a verb, I generally mean people who temporarily change their eating habits. That never sticks. Once they're done, they go right back on the evil pony and gain their weight back. This is why I say you don't go on a diet, you make life-style changes. You need to change what you eat entirely, and it would help to add some things to expend more calories and some light exercise should be a double whammy: you maintain your health and you add to your calorie expenditure.

 

However, I feel like there's too much out there regarding diet and exercise that aren't really helpful. BMI for instance is really more of a 10,000 foot overview of where you should be. It shouldn't be used to measure your overall health. Neither does counting calories because the margin of error is significant.

 

Also there's the illusion of losing weight. Someone described losing weight like peeling an onion. The more you lose, the less weight you start to lose for the same amount of effort.

 

(Also I have had any coffee this morning so my mind's like not there)

[JoeCoke]

4 minutes ago, M.Yurizaki said:

IWhen I say diet, as in a verb, I generally mean people who temporarily change their eating habits. That never sticks. Once they're done, they go right back on the evil pony and gain their weight back. This is why I say you don't go on a diet, you make life-style changes. You need to change what you eat entirely, and it would help to add some things to expend more calories and some light exercise is should be a double whammy: you maintain your health and you add to your calorie expenditure.

 

However, I feel like there's too much out there regarding diet and exercise that aren't really helpful. BMI for instance is really more of a 10,000 foot overview of where you should be. It shouldn't be used to measure your overall health. Neither does counting calories because the margin of error is significant.

 

Also there's the illusion of losing weight. Someone described losing weight like peeling an onion. The more you lose, the less weight you start to lose for the same amount of effort.

 

(Also I have had any coffee this morning so my mind's like not there)

Some really true stuff here. People's mindsets when it comes to weight loss can just be dumb. People tell themselves shit like "I only have to do this for x amount of time", and that just makes no sense. Why only eat right for a little and go back to eating junk? You have to change yourself. And yeah, that onion analogy is perfect. At first when I went low carb I was losing like crazy, but slowly but surely it's become slower and slower. You just have to hang on, you can't just give in. It's not a fast process and anyone who claimed it would be is full of it.

[imreloadin]

1 hour ago, AshleyAshes said:

I find it pretty ironic that the OP is criticizing people on their appearances when this is what the OP looks like.  I'm not even trolling, the OP posted these to this very forum.

Those who live in glass houses should not throw stones.

Well considering that the idea of "attractiveness" is completely subjective it could be that they just like different things than you do? If you were to ask any given room of people what each one of them thought the ratio of attractive people to non-attractive people was you'd get answers that were all over the place.

May I ask what you look like? I'm genuinely curious and since you were so willing to go through the effort to find a thread from 2 years ago to post pictures of someone else it shouldn't be too difficult for you to post some of yourself.