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Elon Musk launches Neurolink, a venture to merge the human brain with AI

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Source: http://www.theverge.com/2017/3/27/15077864/elon-musk-neuralink-brain-computer-interface-ai-cyborgs

 

 

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SpaceX and Tesla CEO Elon Musk is backing a brain-computer interface venture called Neuralink, according to The Wall Street Journal. The company, which is still in the earliest stages of existence and has no public presence whatsoever, is centered on creating devices that can be implanted in the human brain, with the eventual purpose of helping human beings merge with software and keep pace with advancements in artificial intelligence. These enhancements could improve memory or allow for more direct interfacing with computing devices.

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In the medical realm, electrode arrays and other implants have been used to help ameliorate the effects of Parkinson’s, epilepsy, and other neurodegenerative diseases. However, very few people on the planet have complex implants placed inside their skulls, while the number of patients with very basic stimulating devices number only in the tens of thousands. This is partly because it is incredibly dangerous and invasive to operate on the human brain, and only those who have exhausted every other medical option choose to undergo such surgery as a last resort.

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“We know if we put a chip in the brain and release electrical signals, that we can ameliorate symptoms of Parkinson's,” Johnson told The Verge in an interview late last year. (Johnson also confirmed Musk’s involvement with Neuralink.) “This has been done for spinal cord pain, obesity, anorexia… what hasn’t been done is the reading and writing of neural code.” Johnson says Kernel’s goal is to “work with the brain the same way we work with other complex biological systems like biology and genetics.”

 - http://www.theverge.com/2017/3/27/15077864/elon-musk-neuralink-brain-computer-interface-ai-cyborgs

 

We still have a very have a very limited understanding on how the neurons in the human brain communicate, and our methods for collecting data on those neurons is pretty rudimentary. And people still have to start volunteering to get electronics implanted into their brains. If this concepts working in the real world, then I can see so many good medical uses for it but for all things there are always cons and nothing is perfect. What would happen if the chip malfunctioned? What bad purposes could people use this tech in? I'm sure that as this tech advances, it will become a pretty controversial topic in some way.

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How very curious, given his stance on AI and the dangers it brings.

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How are we suppose to do that when we barely understand our own brain?

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11 minutes ago, gtx1060=value said:

if AI becomes real good in the next 20 years, i'll be out of a job unless i switch over to AI in the next 5 years - sounds great - yay

Nooo please be human, I don't want an AI browsing forum

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10 minutes ago, deXxterlab97 said:

Nooo please be human, I don't want an AI browsing forum

xD how do you know @Droidbot isn't one already...

 

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Guess who played Andromeda.

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I've read quite a lot of material about this basically being humanity's only future. They basically say that at some point, computing power will reach the point where we can move our consciousnesses over and no longer be "human" as such, usually referred to as the singularity. Then we can end up not worrying about space or food or fresh water etc etc.

The other possibility is we end up totally killing everyone over those same issues when modern society inevitably collapses. 

The cool thing is that current estimates put both these events at around 2052, so atm it's a bit of a race.

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57 minutes ago, ElfenSky said:

How very curious, given his stance on AI and the dangers it brings.

Maybe Musk has already been implanted and he is being controlled by an AI!?!

 

*puts on tin foil hat

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38 minutes ago, Rangaman42 said:

I've read quite a lot of material about this basically being humanity's only future. They basically say that at some point, computing power will reach the point where we can move our consciousnesses over and no longer be "human" as such, usually referred to as the singularity. Then we can end up not worrying about space or food or fresh water etc etc.

The other possibility is we end up totally killing everyone over those same issues when modern society inevitably collapses. 

The cool thing is that current estimates put both these events at around 2052, so atm it's a bit of a race.

I think transferring consciousness in 2052 is impossible. We haven't even simulated the human brain fully. Soon computers will come online that can do that but 35 years is no time at all to understand the brain.

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Just now, Bensemus said:

I think transferring consciousness in 2052 is impossible. We haven't even simulated the human brain fully. Soon computers will come online that can do that but 35 years is no time at all to understand the brain.

 

That's just the estimates I've been seeing, they're probably way optimistic but it's really not going to be far off. It just takes a couple breakthroughs and we'll be there. I believe that estimate is more relating to us having access to computers powerful enough to do it, rather than a knowledge of how to.

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This brings back the time where i had the pleasure of playing ping pong with a neuro helmet that reads my brain wave, by far the coolest experience i had the pleasure of doing.

 

and no im not joking.

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Just now, Rangaman42 said:

It just takes a couple breakthroughs and we'll be there

Except breakthroughs are never guaranteed. We've been waiting for one in battery tech for years.

 

1 minute ago, Rangaman42 said:

I believe that estimate is more relating to us having access to computers powerful enough to do it, rather than a knowledge of how to.

That makes more sense but then it doesn't seem like the singularity has actually arrived until we do manage to upload our minds to a computer.

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I think this a box that we don't want to peak inside, granted it has various real world applications but it also has some glaring icebergs ahead, transhumanism isn't a beast I want to be messing with.

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Also seeing as no one has mentioned it yet this could give us SAO :P

 

If they do manage to create a brain-computer interface it would be much more accurate to what was shown in the anime compared to VR helmets.

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Sounds a lot like SAM. Personally, I think it's an interesting idea that we should develop, but this could be dangerous depending on the merging AI's capabilities. Eitherway, I would be a guinea pig for an AI implant if they paid enough.  

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2 hours ago, Damascus said:

xD how do you know @Droidbot isn't one already...

 

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I can assure you Droidy IS a artif- IS NOT an ai >w>

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is Musk bipolar?!

I'm asking because he seems to be incapable of finishing an already started project and moves to a new one

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2 hours ago, Technicolors said:

and nier automata 

I think it would be the reverse of this in that particular case.

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3 hours ago, Rangaman42 said:

I've read quite a lot of material about this basically being humanity's only future. They basically say that at some point, computing power will reach the point where we can move our consciousnesses over and no longer be "human" as such, usually referred to as the singularity. Then we can end up not worrying about space or food or fresh water etc etc.

The other possibility is we end up totally killing everyone over those same issues when modern society inevitably collapses. 

The cool thing is that current estimates put both these events at around 2052, so atm it's a bit of a race.

Do  you watch Black Mirror?

Wishing leads to ambition and ambition leads to motivation and motivation leads to me building an illegal rocket ship in my backyard.

 

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1 minute ago, christianled59 said:

Do  you watch Black Mirror?

No, my girlfriend is currently watching it in the other room but I haven't seen it. Does it mention this?

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Just now, Rangaman42 said:

No, my girlfriend is currently watching it in the other room but I haven't seen it. Does it mention this?

Well every episode is self contained. There is an entire episode devoted to this idea. It's really awesome and you don't even realize it until about 3/4 through the episode. 

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