Gaming & Workstation - 7700K or Ryzen 1700x

[RE5URECTION]

Hi all,

Im after some advice for my PC build that im looking to start on pretty much straight away as my home office refurb is due to be completed very soon. Ive answered the sticky questions below and then added some further details that should assist with any advice.

 

1. Budget & Location

Budget - 1500 of the finest Great British Pounds

Location - UK, if you hadnt guessed

 

2. Aim

Primarily gaming and content creation. This will include video editing etc but also use of AutoCAD, Sketch-up etc for work

 

3. Monitors

Planning on running 1 ultrawide 1440p High refresh rate monitor (suggestions would be fantastic)

 

4. Peripherals

Not required, already got these sorted thanks to a hand-me-down.

 

5. Why are you upgrading?

Currently rocking a Lenovo Z710 Laptop (Intel Core i7, 12GB RAM, 1TB + 8GB SSHD) which is great for some low end gaming as it does feature an actual video card which i think is along the lines of an 2gb Geforce 800M and im looking to get into YouTube and truly ascend to PCMR from a laptop and console . This is relevant as i may utilise this laptop as a streaming machine rather than getting rid as i do love my laptop and its great for when i have to work away as part of my day job.

 

As such, this is my current draft of my planned build: PC Part Picker List

 

However Ryzen has dented my confidence in the build, specifically if a 1700x would be a better fit even with the lack of OC headroom (which i would like to do) and slightly lower benchmarks. However i do really like the Asus MOBO ive picked out and was planning a true PCMR RGB build and the asus aura package is a big selling point. Additionally, utilising my laptop to stream would negate ryzens advantage at streaming and gaming at the same on the same system. While i have the laptop, i may aswell make use of it.

 

What do you folks think, should i go with a 7700k and laptop set up or risk it for a biscuit and jump aboard the ryzen train?

Any additional thoughts on my planned build also a great help  

 

Thanks in advance - RE5URECTION

[M.A.P]

8 minutes ago, RE5URECTION said:

Hi all,

Im after some advice for my PC build that im looking to start on pretty much straight away as my home office refurb is due to be completed very soon. Ive answered the sticky questions below and then added some further details that should assist with any advice.

 

1. Budget & Location

Budget - 1500 of the finest Great British Pounds

Location - UK, if you hadnt guessed

 

2. Aim

Primarily gaming and content creation. This will include video editing etc but also use of AutoCAD, Sketch-up etc for work

 

3. Monitors

Planning on running 1 ultrawide 1440p High refresh rate monitor (suggestions would be fantastic)

 

4. Peripherals

Not required, already got these sorted thanks to a hand-me-down.

 

5. Why are you upgrading?

Currently rocking a Lenovo Z710 Laptop (Intel Core i7, 12GB RAM, 1TB + 8GB SSHD) which is great for some low end gaming as it does feature an actual video card which i think is along the lines of an 2gb Geforce 800M and im looking to get into YouTube and truly ascend to PCMR from a laptop and console . This is relevant as i may utilise this laptop as a streaming machine rather than getting rid as i do love my laptop and its great for when i have to work away as part of my day job.

 

As such, this is my current draft of my planned build: PC Part Picker List

 

However Ryzen has dented my confidence in the build, specifically if a 1700x would be a better fit even with the lack of OC headroom (which i would like to do) and slightly lower benchmarks. However i do really like the Asus MOBO ive picked out and was planning a true PCMR RGB build and the asus aura package is a big selling point. Additionally, utilising my laptop to stream would negate ryzens advantage at streaming and gaming at the same on the same system. While i have the laptop, i may aswell make use of it.

 

What do you folks think, should i go with a 7700k and laptop set up or risk it for a biscuit and jump aboard the ryzen train?

Any additional thoughts on my planned build also a great help  

 

Thanks in advance - RE5URECTION

Gaming wise 7700k is a lot better is not not good at doing workstation tasks but 1700x is better as the gaming may not match with 7700k but is just few frames less but in workstation tasks that will literally crush the i7. to save money go with 1700 instead of 1700x they are basically the same but 1700x has higher base and boost clock and can push 200-300 MHz more in OCing.

[Blackhole890]

yes, you should getting an ryzen build

 

PCPartPicker part list: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/jKHXWX
Price breakdown by merchant: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/jKHXWX/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD RYZEN 7 1800X 3.6GHz 8-Core Processor  (£466.90 @ Alza) 
CPU Cooler: MSI CORE FROZR L 71.3 CFM CPU Cooler  (£46.93 @ More Computers) 
Memory: ADATA XPG V1.0 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  (£73.17 @ Amazon UK) 
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (£88.98 @ CCL Computers) 
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (£44.99 @ Novatech) 
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 1080 8GB Video Card  (£479.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Case: Phanteks ECLIPSE P400S ATX Mid Tower Case  (£73.99 @ Novatech) 
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA G2 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  (£84.77 @ Amazon UK) 
Other: mobo aura (available from 27th of march) (£164.00)
Total: £1523.72
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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[M.A.P]

26 minutes ago, Blackhole890 said:

yes, you should getting an ryzen build

 

PCPartPicker part list: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/jKHXWX
Price breakdown by merchant: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/jKHXWX/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD RYZEN 7 1800X 3.6GHz 8-Core Processor  (£466.90 @ Alza) 
CPU Cooler: MSI CORE FROZR L 71.3 CFM CPU Cooler  (£46.93 @ More Computers) 
Memory: ADATA XPG V1.0 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  (£73.17 @ Amazon UK) 
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (£88.98 @ CCL Computers) 
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (£44.99 @ Novatech) 
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 1080 8GB Video Card  (£479.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Case: Phanteks ECLIPSE P400S ATX Mid Tower Case  (£73.99 @ Novatech) 
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA G2 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  (£84.77 @ Amazon UK) 
Other: mobo aura (available from 27th of march) (£164.00)
Total: £1523.72
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-03-22 14:15 GMT+0000

PCPartPicker part list: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/f7PPGf
Price breakdown by merchant: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/f7PPGf/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD RYZEN 7 1700 3.0GHz 8-Core Processor  (£287.94 @ Aria PC) 
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i v2 70.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  (£104.98 @ Ebuyer) 
Motherboard: Asus PRIME X370-PRO ATX AM4 Motherboard  (£150.87 @ Eclipse Computers) 
Memory: ADATA 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  (£92.09 @ Amazon UK) 
Storage: Western Digital Green 240GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  (£70.97 @ BT Shop) 
Storage: Seagate BarraCuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (£37.99 @ Aria PC) 
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB Founders Edition Video Card  (£699.00 @ Amazon UK) 
Case: Cooler Master N300 ATX Mid Tower Case  (£39.98 @ Novatech) 
Power Supply: Deepcool 550W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply  (£52.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Total: £1536.81
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-03-22 14:42 GMT+0000

[Daniel Z.]

3 minutes ago, M.A.P said:

PCPartPicker part list: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/f7PPGf
Price breakdown by merchant: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/f7PPGf/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD RYZEN 7 1700 3.0GHz 8-Core Processor  (£287.94 @ Aria PC) 
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i v2 70.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  (£104.98 @ Ebuyer) 
Motherboard: Asus PRIME X370-PRO ATX AM4 Motherboard  (£150.87 @ Eclipse Computers) 
Memory: ADATA 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  (£92.09 @ Amazon UK) 
Storage: Western Digital Green 240GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  (£70.97 @ BT Shop) 
Storage: Seagate BarraCuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (£37.99 @ Aria PC) 
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB Founders Edition Video Card  (£699.00 @ Amazon UK) 
Case: Cooler Master N300 ATX Mid Tower Case  (£39.98 @ Novatech) 
Power Supply: Deepcool 550W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply  (£52.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Total: £1536.81
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-03-22 14:20 GMT+0000

PSU is crap lol

[M.A.P]

Just now, Daniel Z. said:

PSU is crap lol

Thats a Tier 3 PSU!

[Daniel Z.]

Just now, M.A.P said:

Thats a Tier 3 PSU!

G2 is much better

[SCHISCHKA]

Jayzs2cents has a video testing content creation on ryzen. Better price/performance. The 1700 looks like best deal for overclocking.

 

[M.A.P]

8 minutes ago, Daniel Z. said:

G2 is much better

But costlier I agree G2 is a good PSU better than the one I added but still costlier and that Deepcool PSU is not a crap. It might be worse than G2 but still is a very Good PSU right?

[Daniel Z.]

1 minute ago, M.A.P said:

But costlier I agree G2 is a good PSU better then the one I added but still costlier and that Deepcool PSU is not a crap. It might be worse than G2 but still is a very Good PSU right?

G2 is fairly affordable.

[M.A.P]

10 minutes ago, Daniel Z. said:

G2 is fairly affordable.

Ok then 30 pounds more I'll update the pcpartpicker list. I think Deepcool is better

Edited March 22, 2017 by M.A.P
Just found out that 30 pounds is so much to get G2

[iRileyx]

4 minutes ago, Daniel Z. said:

G2 is fairly affordable.

Not really, atleast £80 for the 550 watt version

 

The deepcool is perfectly fine to use so no point spending an extra £30 or so.

[Daniel Z.]

Just now, RKRiley said:

Not really, £80 for the 550 watt version

 

The deepcool is perfectly fine to use so no point spending an extra £30 or so.

No offence, but what is with your PC specs?

[iRileyx]

1 minute ago, Daniel Z. said:

No offence, but what is with your PC specs?

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/RKRiley/saved/pjMcf7 Why should my specs matter? 

[Daniel Z.]

5 minutes ago, RKRiley said:

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/RKRiley/saved/pjMcf7 Why should my specs matter? 

Just wondering about the RX 480 and OCed A8-7650K

[iRileyx]

Just now, Daniel Z. said:

Just wondering about the RX 480 and OCed A8-7650K

Bottlenecks, badly

 

[Daniel Z.]

Just now, RKRiley said:

Bottlenecks, badly

 

Are you upgrading soon?

[iRileyx]

Just now, Daniel Z. said:

Are you upgrading soon?

Probably to Ryzen myself in a month or so. got the money waiting, but waiting to see if any issues pop up with it, too early to judge yet.

[Daniel Z.]

3 minutes ago, RKRiley said:

Probably to Ryzen myself in a month or so. got the money waiting, but waiting to see if any issues pop up with it, too early to judge yet.

Oh good. I might get a used X99 mobo and CPU. People are complaining about gaming performance when they got the Ryzen CPUs right after launch. Seems weird to me that they're upset about ryzen when they didn't even check any benchmarks.

[Daniel Z.]

There's no need for such a good cooler on ryzen, it isn't hot and doesn't overclock well

[Herman Mcpootis]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD RYZEN 7 1700 3.0GHz 8-Core Processor  (£287.94 @ Aria PC) 
CPU Cooler: Enermax ETS-T50 AXE (Black) 62.3 CFM CPU Cooler  (£54.67 @ Amazon UK) order the am4 mounts from enermax's website.
Motherboard: ASRock X370 Killer SLI ATX AM4 Motherboard  (£148.57 @ CCL Computers) 
Memory: Patriot Viper Elite 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory  (£98.44 @ Amazon UK) 
Storage: Western Digital Green 240GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  (£70.97 @ BT Shop) 
Video Card: Zotac GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB Founders Edition Video Card  (£699.00 @ Amazon UK) 
Case: Phanteks ECLIPSE P400 ATX Mid Tower Case  (£55.56 @ Aria PC) 
Power Supply: Super Flower Golden Green HX 750W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply  (£86.99 @ CCL Computers) 
Total: £1502.14
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-03-22 14:52 GMT+0000

[Guest]

Can you wait until April 11th ? The 6 core Ryzen R5 1600 is out then and it should be excellent value for money (Around £200 I would guess).

[Daniel Z.]

Lots of SSD lol

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD RYZEN 7 1700 3.0GHz 8-Core Processor  (£287.94 @ Aria PC) 
CPU Cooler: Corsair H55 57.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  (£57.96 @ Amazon UK) 
Motherboard: ASRock X370 Killer SLI ATX AM4 Motherboard  (£148.57 @ CCL Computers) 
Memory: ADATA 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  (£92.09 @ Amazon UK) 
Storage: Mushkin Chronos 480GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (£96.51 @ CCL Computers) 
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (£64.41 @ Ebuyer) 
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB Founders Edition Video Card  (£699.00 @ Amazon UK) 
Case: BitFenix Nova ATX Mid Tower Case  (£26.40 @ Aria PC) 
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA G2 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  (£84.77 @ Amazon UK) 
Total: £1557.65
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-03-22 15:01 GMT+0000

[Blackhole890]

1 minute ago, Daniel Z. said:

Lots of SSD lol

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD RYZEN 7 1700 3.0GHz 8-Core Processor  (£287.94 @ Aria PC) 
CPU Cooler: Corsair H55 57.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  (£57.96 @ Amazon UK) 
Motherboard: ASRock X370 Killer SLI ATX AM4 Motherboard  (£148.57 @ CCL Computers) 
Memory: ADATA 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  (£92.09 @ Amazon UK) 
Storage: Mushkin Chronos 480GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (£96.51 @ CCL Computers) 
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (£64.41 @ Ebuyer) 
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB Founders Edition Video Card  (£699.00 @ Amazon UK) 
Case: BitFenix Nova ATX Mid Tower Case  (£26.40 @ Aria PC) 
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA G2 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  (£84.77 @ Amazon UK) 
Total: £1557.65
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-03-22 15:01 GMT+0000

thats a crappy aio... 

[Kinda Bottlenecked]

PCPartPicker part list: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/QndBWX
Price breakdown by merchant: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/QndBWX/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD RYZEN 7 1700 3.0GHz 8-Core Processor  (£287.94 @ Aria PC) 
CPU Cooler: Scythe Mugen 5 51.2 CFM CPU Cooler  (£34.71 @ Amazon UK) 
Motherboard: Asus PRIME X370-PRO ATX AM4 Motherboard  (£150.87 @ Eclipse Computers) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  (£113.39 @ Aria PC) 
Storage: Crucial MX300 275GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  (£89.42 @ CCL Computers) 
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB Founder Edition Video Card  (£699.00 @ Amazon UK) 
Case: Phanteks ECLIPSE P400 ATX Mid Tower Case  (£55.56 @ Aria PC) 
Power Supply: Super Flower Golden Green HX 550W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply  (£67.80 @ More Computers) 
Total: £1498.69
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-03-22 15:37 GMT+0000

 

- R7 1700

- Air cooler 

- Prime Pro(Ti Nexfets, ASP1405, Solid vrm)

- GTX 1080 Ti

- Generally non shit parts

 

Please take note of the mem speed issues that many are currently trying to resolve on Ryzen. Asus is also still trying to resolve issues on their boards. Same as with all mobo manufacturers. Though I won't ignore the build quality of the prime pro. 

 

I can't guarantee that ram kit will play nice with your mobo.