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41 minutes ago, Abyssal Radon said:

No, older GPU architectures doesn't get the same amount of optimization as does a current gen. architecture does. Plus, a 1060 probably is about the same as a 980 Ti, but uses a lot less power. Actually I would bet a 1060 would beat a 980 Ti in most games.

This has got to be a troll post - please don't spout this nonsense. A 1060 gets no where near a 980ti, I have no idea why you are saying this. Basically Every card in the pascal range challenges or beats the previous higher model, aka

 

1050ti > 960

1060 > 970

1060 6gb > 980

1070 > 980ti

1080 > Fuck You Maxwell

1080ti > Fuck You 1080

 

And if you need numbers then here:

 

https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Gigabyte/GTX_1060_Xtreme_Gaming/16.html

https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Gigabyte/GTX_1060_Xtreme_Gaming/21.html

 

http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/gigabyte_geforce_gtx_1060_g1_gaming_review,22.html

 

47 minutes ago, LiamardoHD said:

Thanks for the recommendation, in all honesty I'm a bit confused by this as the 1060 is a better card (I believe) and it's doing worse in DX12. Would this be something that would change over time or not?

Why do you say its the better card? On release the 1060 6gb (the 3gb has less cores as well as vram so is a lesser card) was a lot better. However, AMD with their GCN architecture have a tendency to improve with driver updates:

 

https://www.hardocp.com/article/2017/01/30/amd_video_card_driver_performance_review_fine_wine/10

https://www.hardocp.com/article/2017/01/30/amd_video_card_driver_performance_review_fine_wine/7

 

As for DX12 - AMD use basically brute force on their GPU's, called Asynchronous Compute, this ability is not fully utilised in DX11 which is why Nvidia tends to have the upper hand in DX11 titles. However, DX12 removes a lot of the driver overhead that DX11 + AMD cards are restricted by. This is basically why AMD > Nvidia in DX12 across a lot of the range (980ti+ excluded).

 

Now take that into account, + lower prices of the 480 and more vram and then consider more games are going to use DX12 as we move forward and then add the fact AMD GCN cards improve with driver updates - it kinda makes the 480 a win win situation - Yes the 1060 still wins in some DX11 games, but the different isn't vast and story was pretty much the same between the Nvidia 970 and AMD 390 - and then slowly turned the 390's way over the period of 9 months or so

 

Then add another (I just remembered) Nvidia disabled SLI on cards below the 1070 in Pascal range - So if you want more GPU horse power in the future with Nvidia you need a new card, where as AMD still support crossfire on the 480

 

And then we could talk about freesync monitors being cheaper than Gsync !
 

(You wouldn't believe I have a 1080 and Gsync monitor after this AMD pat on the back!)

 

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Posted · Original PosterOP

Please note, I am in the UK - newegg is ridiculously expensive for shipping, and I cannot buy things off of US Amazon.

 

Hello,

 

I'll have £300 to spend on my gaming computer in about a month and want to know your recommendations on where it could be best invested. So far I've decided on a 1060 6gb for £229, but I'm open for suggestions and feel I could really benefit from some of your intelligible feedback and recommendations. I'm going to be gaming at 1080p and am looking for high - ultra settings. I'd like to be able to invest some of this £300 in games if possible. Another thought I've had is an SSD.

 

Here are a list of games I play (or will purchase):

-Star Wars: Battlefront

-Battlefield 1

-Grand Theft Auto: V

-Assassin's Creed: Syndicate

-Just Cause 3

-Blackwake

-Ark: Survival Evolved

 

My current specs are:

 

i5 4460

GTX 960 2GB

GA-H81M-H

2x 1TB HDDs (One of them is about to die, I believe)

8GB DDR3 1600MHz RAM

Corsair 100r

Logitech G402

Technet HS8000

Sunsonny Gateron Blue keyboard

 

Thanks a lot for reading and I hope you have a nice day!

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3 minutes ago, LiamardoHD said:

Please note, I am in the UK - newegg is ridiculously expensive for shipping, and I cannot buy things off of US Amazon.

 

Hello,

 

I'll have £300 to spend on my gaming computer in about a month and want to know your recommendations on where it could be best invested. So far I've decided on a 1060 6gb for £229, but I'm open for suggestions and feel I could really benefit from some of your intelligible feedback and recommendations. I'm going to be gaming at 1080p and am looking for high - ultra settings. I'd like to be able to invest some of this £300 in games if possible. Another thought I've had is an SSD.

 

Here are a list of games I play (or will purchase):

-Star Wars: Battlefront

-Battlefield 1

-Grand Theft Auto: V

-Assassin's Creed: Syndicate

-Just Cause 3

-Blackwake

-Ark: Survival Evolved

 

My current specs are:

 

i5 4460

GTX 960 2GB

GA-H81M-H

2x 1TB HDDs (One of them is about to die, I believe)

8GB DDR3 1600MHz RAM

Corsair 100r

Logitech G402

Technet HS8000

Sunsonny Gateron Blue keyboard

 

Thanks a lot for reading and I hope you have a nice day!

You could probably get over £100+ for the 960 on Ebay.

 

Sell the 960 and buy a 1060 + an SSD (the biggest you can afford.)


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3 minutes ago, LiamardoHD said:

Please note, I am in the UK - newegg is ridiculously expensive for shipping, and I cannot buy things off of US Amazon.

 

Hello,

 

I'll have £300 to spend on my gaming computer in about a month and want to know your recommendations on where it could be best invested. So far I've decided on a 1060 6gb for £229, but I'm open for suggestions and feel I could really benefit from some of your intelligible feedback and recommendations. I'm going to be gaming at 1080p and am looking for high - ultra settings. I'd like to be able to invest some of this £300 in games if possible. Another thought I've had is an SSD.

 

Here are a list of games I play (or will purchase):

-Star Wars: Battlefront

-Battlefield 1

-Grand Theft Auto: V

-Assassin's Creed: Syndicate

-Just Cause 3

-Blackwake

-Ark: Survival Evolved

 

My current specs are:

 

i5 4460

GTX 960 2GB

GA-H81M-H

2x 1TB HDDs (One of them is about to die, I believe)

8GB DDR3 1600MHz RAM

Corsair 100r

Logitech G402

Technet HS8000

Sunsonny Gateron Blue keyboard

 

Thanks a lot for reading and I hope you have a nice day!

This is one of those things that's very hard to recommend a solution to someone. A 1060 would be a decent upgrade, but you might want to look at AMD's offerings. Honestly a SSD would be a great upgrade too.


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5 minutes ago, LiamardoHD said:

Please note, I am in the UK - newegg is ridiculously expensive for shipping, and I cannot buy things off of US Amazon.

 

Hello,

 

I'll have £300 to spend on my gaming computer in about a month and want to know your recommendations on where it could be best invested. So far I've decided on a 1060 6gb for £229, but I'm open for suggestions and feel I could really benefit from some of your intelligible feedback and recommendations. I'm going to be gaming at 1080p and am looking for high - ultra settings. I'd like to be able to invest some of this £300 in games if possible. Another thought I've had is an SSD.

 

Here are a list of games I play (or will purchase):

-Star Wars: Battlefront

-Battlefield 1

-Grand Theft Auto: V

-Assassin's Creed: Syndicate

-Just Cause 3

-Blackwake

-Ark: Survival Evolved

 

My current specs are:

 

i5 4460

GTX 960 2GB

GA-H81M-H

2x 1TB HDDs (One of them is about to die, I believe)

8GB DDR3 1600MHz RAM

Corsair 100r

Logitech G402

Technet HS8000

Sunsonny Gateron Blue keyboard

 

Thanks a lot for reading and I hope you have a nice day!

 

A new graphics card is always a good option. If one of the hard drives is close to dying, get one, or invest into a SSD. The CPU can hold its own for a while still.

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Get the AMD 480 8gb - its just as fast in most games, faster in DX12, will get faster with updates and more importantly it's cheaper:

 

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/pvZ2FT/msi-radeon-rx-480-8gb-armor-8g-oc-video-card-rx-480-armor-8g-oc 

 

I would then add a nice SSD such as:

 

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/gf98TW/a-data-internal-hard-drive-asp550ss3240gmc

 

 


 

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18 minutes ago, LiamardoHD said:

Please note, I am in the UK - newegg is ridiculously expensive for shipping, and I cannot buy things off of US Amazon.

 

Hello,

 

I'll have £300 to spend on my gaming computer in about a month and want to know your recommendations on where it could be best invested. So far I've decided on a 1060 6gb for £229, but I'm open for suggestions and feel I could really benefit from some of your intelligible feedback and recommendations. I'm going to be gaming at 1080p and am looking for high - ultra settings. I'd like to be able to invest some of this £300 in games if possible. Another thought I've had is an SSD.

 

Here are a list of games I play (or will purchase):

-Star Wars: Battlefront

-Battlefield 1

-Grand Theft Auto: V

-Assassin's Creed: Syndicate

-Just Cause 3

-Blackwake

-Ark: Survival Evolved

 

My current specs are:

 

i5 4460

GTX 960 2GB

GA-H81M-H

2x 1TB HDDs (One of them is about to die, I believe)

8GB DDR3 1600MHz RAM

Corsair 100r

Logitech G402

Technet HS8000

Sunsonny Gateron Blue keyboard

 

Thanks a lot for reading and I hope you have a nice day!

Bam:

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Price breakdown by merchant: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/ybVvhq/by_merchant/

Storage: Mushkin Chronos 480GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (£96.51 @ CCL Computers) 
Video Card: MSI Radeon RX 480 8GB ARMOR 8G OC Video Card  (£199.98 @ Novatech) 
Total: £296.49
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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8 hours ago, Abyssal Radon said:

This is one of those things that's very hard to recommend a solution to someone. A 1060 would be a decent upgrade, but you might want to look at AMD's offerings. Honestly a SSD would be a great upgrade too.

That's what I was thinking. The 1060 performs better than the rx480, so I'm not too interested by AMD for now.

 

Do you think I should try and grab a cheaper 980ti off ebay?

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8 hours ago, stealth80 said:

Get the AMD 480 8gb - its just as fast in most games, faster in DX12, will get faster with updates and more importantly it's cheaper:

 

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/pvZ2FT/msi-radeon-rx-480-8gb-armor-8g-oc-video-card-rx-480-armor-8g-oc 

 

I would then add a nice SSD such as:

 

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/gf98TW/a-data-internal-hard-drive-asp550ss3240gmc

 

 

Thanks for the recommendation, in all honesty I'm a bit confused by this as the 1060 is a better card (I believe) and it's doing worse in DX12. Would this be something that would change over time or not?

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25 minutes ago, LiamardoHD said:

That's what I was thinking. The 1060 performs better than the rx480, so I'm not too interested by AMD for now.

 

Do you think I should try and grab a cheaper 980ti off ebay?

No, older GPU architectures doesn't get the same amount of optimization as does a current gen. architecture does. Plus, a 1060 probably is about the same as a 980 Ti, but uses a lot less power. Actually I would bet a 1060 would beat a 980 Ti in most games.


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41 minutes ago, Abyssal Radon said:

No, older GPU architectures doesn't get the same amount of optimization as does a current gen. architecture does. Plus, a 1060 probably is about the same as a 980 Ti, but uses a lot less power. Actually I would bet a 1060 would beat a 980 Ti in most games.

This has got to be a troll post - please don't spout this nonsense. A 1060 gets no where near a 980ti, I have no idea why you are saying this. Basically Every card in the pascal range challenges or beats the previous higher model, aka

 

1050ti > 960

1060 > 970

1060 6gb > 980

1070 > 980ti

1080 > Fuck You Maxwell

1080ti > Fuck You 1080

 

And if you need numbers then here:

 

https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Gigabyte/GTX_1060_Xtreme_Gaming/16.html

https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Gigabyte/GTX_1060_Xtreme_Gaming/21.html

 

http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/gigabyte_geforce_gtx_1060_g1_gaming_review,22.html

 

47 minutes ago, LiamardoHD said:

Thanks for the recommendation, in all honesty I'm a bit confused by this as the 1060 is a better card (I believe) and it's doing worse in DX12. Would this be something that would change over time or not?

Why do you say its the better card? On release the 1060 6gb (the 3gb has less cores as well as vram so is a lesser card) was a lot better. However, AMD with their GCN architecture have a tendency to improve with driver updates:

 

https://www.hardocp.com/article/2017/01/30/amd_video_card_driver_performance_review_fine_wine/10

https://www.hardocp.com/article/2017/01/30/amd_video_card_driver_performance_review_fine_wine/7

 

As for DX12 - AMD use basically brute force on their GPU's, called Asynchronous Compute, this ability is not fully utilised in DX11 which is why Nvidia tends to have the upper hand in DX11 titles. However, DX12 removes a lot of the driver overhead that DX11 + AMD cards are restricted by. This is basically why AMD > Nvidia in DX12 across a lot of the range (980ti+ excluded).

 

Now take that into account, + lower prices of the 480 and more vram and then consider more games are going to use DX12 as we move forward and then add the fact AMD GCN cards improve with driver updates - it kinda makes the 480 a win win situation - Yes the 1060 still wins in some DX11 games, but the different isn't vast and story was pretty much the same between the Nvidia 970 and AMD 390 - and then slowly turned the 390's way over the period of 9 months or so

 

Then add another (I just remembered) Nvidia disabled SLI on cards below the 1070 in Pascal range - So if you want more GPU horse power in the future with Nvidia you need a new card, where as AMD still support crossfire on the 480

 

And then we could talk about freesync monitors being cheaper than Gsync !
 

(You wouldn't believe I have a 1080 and Gsync monitor after this AMD pat on the back!)

 


 

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My Project Logs   Iced Blood    Temporal Snow    Temporal Snow Ryzen Refresh

 

CPU - Ryzen 1700 @ 4Ghz  Motherboard - Gigabyte AX370 Aorus Gaming 5   Ram - 16Gb GSkill Trident Z RGB 3200  GPU - Palit 1080GTX Gamerock Premium  Storage - Samsung XP941 256GB, Crucial MX300 525GB, Seagate Barracuda 1TB   PSU - Fractal Design Newton R3 1000W  Case - INWIN 303 White Display - Asus PG278Q Gsync 144hz 1440P

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7 hours ago, stealth80 said:

This has got to be a troll post - please don't spout this nonsense. A 1060 gets no where near a 980ti, I have no idea why you are saying this. Basically Every card in the pascal range challenges or beats the previous higher model, aka

 

1050ti > 960

1060 > 970

1060 6gb > 980

1070 > 980ti

1080 > Fuck You Maxwell

1080ti > Fuck You 1080

 

And if you need numbers then here:

 

https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Gigabyte/GTX_1060_Xtreme_Gaming/16.html

https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Gigabyte/GTX_1060_Xtreme_Gaming/21.html

 

http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/gigabyte_geforce_gtx_1060_g1_gaming_review,22.html

 

Why do you say its the better card? On release the 1060 6gb (the 3gb has less cores as well as vram so is a lesser card) was a lot better. However, AMD with their GCN architecture have a tendency to improve with driver updates:

 

https://www.hardocp.com/article/2017/01/30/amd_video_card_driver_performance_review_fine_wine/10

https://www.hardocp.com/article/2017/01/30/amd_video_card_driver_performance_review_fine_wine/7

 

As for DX12 - AMD use basically brute force on their GPU's, called Asynchronous Compute, this ability is not fully utilised in DX11 which is why Nvidia tends to have the upper hand in DX11 titles. However, DX12 removes a lot of the driver overhead that DX11 + AMD cards are restricted by. This is basically why AMD > Nvidia in DX12 across a lot of the range (980ti+ excluded).

 

Now take that into account, + lower prices of the 480 and more vram and then consider more games are going to use DX12 as we move forward and then add the fact AMD GCN cards improve with driver updates - it kinda makes the 480 a win win situation - Yes the 1060 still wins in some DX11 games, but the different isn't vast and story was pretty much the same between the Nvidia 970 and AMD 390 - and then slowly turned the 390's way over the period of 9 months or so

 

Then add another (I just remembered) Nvidia disabled SLI on cards below the 1070 in Pascal range - So if you want more GPU horse power in the future with Nvidia you need a new card, where as AMD still support crossfire on the 480

 

And then we could talk about freesync monitors being cheaper than Gsync !
 

(You wouldn't believe I have a 1080 and Gsync monitor after this AMD pat on the back!)

 

I thought because of the performance in most games it was a better card, thanks for the detailed correction - so, it'll fix itself over time? Thanks a lot.

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2 hours ago, LiamardoHD said:

I thought because of the performance in most games it was a better card, thanks for the detailed correction - so, it'll fix itself over time? Thanks a lot.

if the 2xx and 3xx series are anything to go by then yes, but it isn't guaranteed. But as an all round, its a better card


 

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