AMD Ryzen R7 1800X performance review - TechPowerUp

[Morgan MLGman]

So TechPowerUp released their review of the 1800X and it's got some interesting results, it was released today (17.03.2017)

 

Full review link: https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/Ryzen_7_1800X/

 

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AMD launched its much awaited Ryzen 7 processor family. AMD has been known to be a PC processor company way before it acquired ATI in 2006 to also become a graphics company. Owning a PC with a fast AMD processor has been a 'hep' thing and told people around you that you're aware of an industry beyond Intel, and the millions of dollars it pumps into marketing each year. Throughout the Pentium era, AMD processors have lived up to being viable alternatives, alongside companies such as Cyrix, who we dearly miss. The company's K6, Athlon, and Athlon XP processor series did well to ensure Intel didn't pull the same architecture through the market for an entire decade.

 

They put the 1800X through a multitude of tests:

- Arithmetic CPU Tests: https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/Ryzen_7_1800X/5.html

- Productivity & Compression: https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/Ryzen_7_1800X/7.html

- Media Encoding: https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/Ryzen_7_1800X/6.html

- Rendering & Simulation: https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/Ryzen_7_1800X/8.html

- Web Performance: https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/Ryzen_7_1800X/9.html

and eventually, Gaming:
pt. 1 https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/Ryzen_7_1800X/10.html

pt. 2 https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/Ryzen_7_1800X/11.html

pt. 3 https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/Ryzen_7_1800X/12.html

 

An important note: The R7-series isn't meant for gaming, if you're looking for that in the Ryzen lineup, look at the 4C/8T and 6C/12T parts that will come in April.

 

And I think this is what's most interesting to people on this forum so let's get to it, a few gaming benchmarks:

 

Battlefield 1:

 

Civilization VI:

 

Fallout 4:

 

DOOM:

 

Rise of the Tomb Raider:

 

The Witcher 3:

 

Total War: Warhammer:

 

Hitman:

 

Gaming performance seems very varied, some games work great on the R7 lineup and some games make it fail miserably considering its competition, this indicates an issue either in software or with the architecture, we'll see whether any of it improves after promised fixes and patches arrive.

Gaming performance summary:

 

 

TPU's summary:

 

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With the release of the new Ryzen processors, a new era begins for AMD. It brings the company back to competitiveness against behemoth Intel. Whether Ryzen is for you or not, this restored rivalry will benefit us all, be it through performance, features or pricing. The first processors released are part of the Ryzen 7 Series, which are all eight-core models, featuring a new HyperThreading-like technology called SMT, which was long overdue in AMD's lineup. We also found huge improvements to single-thread performance, which was a major issue on the company's previous Bulldozer architecture. Another improvement worth mentioning is that power efficiency is incredible, beating Intel processors in many scenarios. Overall this makes the Ryzen 7 1800X an excellent alternative to processors from the Intel HEDT lineup (eg: Core i7-6900K) - at much more attractive pricing.

 

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My personal opinion:

 

Performance:

- Productivity performance is outstanding for the price, there's nothing much to say here, really.

- As for gaming performance... It's suprisingly good in some cases and suprisingly bad in other ones. As I said above, the results are mixed and that indicates an issue in my opinion, whether related to software or to the architecture itself.

I do not know whether it'll be fixed or not, whether it can be fixed at all or not, however I certainly hope so as AMD has promised fixes, patches & optimizations coming because it's a completely new architecture.

 

Value:

- Great for the price, especially with the 1700 and 1700X.

Power Consumption:

- Again, outstanding

This is what suprised me most with the R7 lineup personally...

It has double the cores and double the threads of the 7700K and it's more efficient in gaming! It's incredible.

 

TPU's quote on that:

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This is epic. We're assuming you've sifted through our game-test results before seeing this page, and so you'll find that the gaming power draw of the 8-core Ryzen makes Intel's quad-core i7-7700K look bad. The power-draw is as much as 30W lesser!

 

Ryzen is hands down the most energy-efficient performance CPU AMD ever made, and easily outclasses Intel's 14 nm "leadership." Good show.

 

Though I wish TPU compared the 1800X to the 6900K and not 7700K... It'd be a much more realistic comparison.

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EDIT:

 

DigitalFoundry released a great video in which they talk about and review the 1800X in many different scenarios, it's certainly worth the watch:

 

 

 

[Bouzoo]

I really do like how it performs in many titles, but when it can't keep up constant 60 while Intel can 80 or 90+ in some of them, then we have a problem which is a deal breaker for many users. 

[Notional]

The 7700k system runs with 3000 mhz ram. We know the infinity fabric that combines the 2 CCX modules in Ryzen is synced to memory speed. What that means is that Ryzen benefits profoundly from higher memory speeds. I wonder what the results would look like with 3000 mhz ram as well.

[DocSwag]

I'm definitely interested in how far the quad core SKUs can overclock, since if they do OC well it could actually force Intel to lower prices.

[Ezio Auditore]

Is there a GPU bottleneck in Witcher 3 1080p?

[Guest]

Just now, Bouzoo said:

I really do like how it performs in many titles, but when it can't keep up constant 60 while Intel can 80 or 90+ in some of them, then we have a problem which is a deal breaker for many users. 

Also it's average fps. While AVG FPS can be 80-90, min FPS can be lower.

[Guest]

Well sacrificing 2-5 Fps for lower power consumption, come on AMD haters you people babble about nothing..

Edited March 17, 2017 by Zackbare
Coz I'm stupid

[Guest]

Just now, Zackbare said:

Well sacrificing 2-5 Fps for lower power consumption and 500 bucks, come on AMD haters you people babble about nothing..

plz snip the post while quoting it, no one likes to scroll again

 

and what? 7700k costs almost the same as R7. Where the 500 you get from?

[DildorTheDecent]

 

1 minute ago, Zackbare said:

Well sacrificing 2-5 Fps for lower power consumption and 500 bucks, come on AMD haters you people babble about nothing..

GG with that quote.

[Guest Darth Revan]

Intel is just killing it.

[Guest]

1 minute ago, Darth Revan said:

Intel is just killing it.

Would you please explain how?

[DocSwag]

4 minutes ago, Zackbare said:

Well sacrificing 2-5 Fps for lower power consumption, come on AMD haters you people babble about nothing..

Some people want max performance, and this 7700k isn't even overclocked. And for a game or two the difference is more like 30 fps.

[The Benjamins]

I really like were Ryzen sits. I want more cores, was think of going X99 for my next system, and I play on a 1440p 21:9 monitor so the games I play are GPU bound anyway.

[Herman Mcpootis]

5 minutes ago, deXxterlab97 said:

plz snip the post while quoting it, no one likes to scroll again

 

and what? 7700k costs almost the same as R7. Where the 500 you get from?

He's probably referring to the 1800x which is $500, while the r7 you're talking about is the 1700.

[Guest]

1 minute ago, DocSwag said:

Some people want max performance, and this 7700k isn't even overclocked. And for a game or two the difference is more like 30 fps.

But the future is in multi threads, both of the companys are looking into it, when in future the games are optimized for it, AMD will kill it.

[DocSwag]

Just now, Zackbare said:

But the future is in multi threads, both of the companys are looking into it, when in future the games are optimized for it, AMD will kill it.

For the next 2-3 years though 4c8t should still be better, so unless it's a CPU that you wanna keep for 6 years, I'd still recommend 7700k for a pure gamer. If they do any content creation whatsoever, though, Ryzen is my choice.

[Guest]

1 minute ago, herman mcpootis said:

He's probably referring to the 1800x which is $500, while the r7 you're talking about is the 1700.

Oh I thought he meant the price difference

[Guest Darth Revan]

4 minutes ago, Zackbare said:

Would you please explain how?

 

[Guest]

5 minutes ago, DocSwag said:

For the next 2-3 years though 4c8t should still be better, so unless it's a CPU that you wanna keep for 6 years, I'd still recommend 7700k for a pure gamer. If they do any content creation whatsoever, though, Ryzen is my choice.

If you watch this then, 

by linus himself, he specifically said that gamers should not go for that.

Obviously not talking about AMD at all.

[CostcoSamples]

AMDs core complex (CCX) design is possibly their downfall.  While it would benefit from high memory speed (in theory), nothing beyond 2667 mhz is supported!  =(

 

It also means that the 4c/8t and 6c/12t CPUs are going to suffer the same fate as the 8c/16t models, in terms of speed.  Don't expect high clock speeds!  AMD has already confirmed these cheaper parts will have the same CCX layout...  

[DocSwag]

1 minute ago, Zackbare said:

If you watch this then, 

by linus himself, he specifically said that gamers should not go for that.

I disagree, since 7700k still beats the 7600k in a fair amount of games. Linus isn't the authority, and I don't always agree with what he says.

[Guest]

7 minutes ago, CostcoSamples said:

AMDs core complex (CCX) design is possibly their downfall.  While it would benefit from high memory speed (in theory), nothing beyond 2667 mhz is supported!  =(

 

It also means that the 4c/8t and 6c/12t CPUs are going to suffer the same fate as the 8c/16t models, in terms of speed.  Don't expect high clock speeds!  AMD has already confirmed these cheaper parts will have the same CCX layout...  

I don't find that anywhere, nor I have heard of. Can you please qoute some reputable websites or Youtube video which claims and proves this ? I would like to learn about it

[SpaceGhostC2C]

5 minutes ago, DocSwag said:

I disagree, since 7700k still beats the 7600k in a fair amount of games. Linus isn't the authority, and I don't always agree with what he says.

i7s have always performed better than i5s. That was never the point.

The point always was that, when you compare prices, i5s were, and still are, the better option for consumers that don't get free 1080 tis to do videos.

[Morgan MLGman]

10 minutes ago, DocSwag said:

I disagree, since 7700k still beats the 7600k in a fair amount of games. Linus isn't the authority, and I don't always agree with what he says.

True, he's not always correct as he's only a person and even LTT videos have meritorical mistakes.

12 minutes ago, CostcoSamples said:

AMDs core complex (CCX) design is possibly their downfall.  While it would benefit from high memory speed (in theory), nothing beyond 2667 mhz is supported!  =(

Yet. Within a month this should be fixed, at least according to AMD themselves.

26 minutes ago, Notional said:

The 7700k system runs with 3000 mhz ram. We know the infinity fabric that combines the 2 CCX modules in Ryzen is synced to memory speed. What that means is that Ryzen benefits profoundly from higher memory speeds. I wonder what the results would look like with 3000 mhz ram as well.

I believe it could increase the performance by quite a bit as it directly improves Infinity Fabric's bandwidth by a lot, especially that TPU proved that setting the RAM at 2667MHz with the CPU at 3,6GHz made the 1800X faster than if it was OC'd to 4,0GHz but with RAM at 2133MHz...

14 minutes ago, Darth Revan said:

SNIP

This is a very, very dumb argument. I can send you a multitude of benchmarks that show the 1800X completely OBLITERATING the 7700K. That doesn't mean that Intel is garbage, it's just that Intel is better in gaming but MUCH worse in productivity and heavy tasks for the money.

 

4 minutes ago, Zackbare said:

I don't find that anywhere, nor I have heard of. Can you please qoute some reputable websites or Youtube video which claims and proves this ? I would like to learn about it

What would you like to know? I'm quite familiar with the architecture myself.

 

2 minutes ago, SpaceGhostC2C said:

i7s have always performed better than i5s. That was never the point.

The point always was that, when you compare prices, i5s were, and still are, the better option for consumers that don't get free 1080 tis to do videos.

Unless we're talking frametimes, cause then i5s and i3s look just plain sad And it directly affects gameplay smoothness.

 

[DocSwag]

1 minute ago, SpaceGhostC2C said:

i7s have always performed better than i5s. That was never the point.

The point always was that, when you compare prices, i5s were, and still are, the better option for consumers that don't get free 1080 tis to do videos.

Yes, though what I'm saying is if you're looking for the ultimate gaming performance a 7700k is the way to go.