Western Digital has a new PCI-E SSD which is sure to dissapoint some

[AlTech]

Western Digital, the company behind HDDs and more recently SSDs, have produced yet another SSD and it appears they haven't had much better luck.

 

This uses a Marvell controller combined with TLC 3D Nand connected to a PCB with a connection to PCI-E 3.0 x4 Interface.

 

And yet despite this, they've managed to achieve 2000MB/s Read speed and either 700MB/s or 800MB/s write speed.

 

This isn't terrible performance but I sure as hell expected a little better in terms of write performance.

 

 

Not the most solid SSD ever. The price is a little high but still acceptable.

 

It's being released today/yesterday. IDEK. Timezones are annoying.

 

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Western Digital and SanDisk are relatively late in bringing a consumer NVMe SSD to market. They're clearly intending for the WD Black SSD to be a fairly mainstream product by using TLC NAND and pricing it below high-end SATA SSDs. In the SATA space SanDisk has made very effective use of their planar TLC and the SanDisk X400 and WD Blue are the best in their class. Having taken their time developing the WD Black, we expect another solid performer. However, time is running out for planar TLC the WD Black may turn out to be a short-lived product before being replaced by a successor with 3D NAND. All four major NAND manufacturers plan to ship 64+ layer 3D NAND this year with TLC parts up to 512Gb, and if things go according to plan for at least two or three of them we should see the NAND shortage start to fade and prices and capacities improv

 

http://www.anandtech.com/show/11174/the-western-digital-black-pcie-ssd-512gb-review

Edited March 14, 2017 by AluminiumTech

[vanished]

I guess even premium categories have to have budget options?

[terrytek]

i'm still waiting for seagate to release a pcie ssd now. still would never use this, unless there's no seagate equivalent.

[DocSwag]

It's TLC, what did you expect .

 

Anyhow, it's still pretty decent. Beats out the 600p which is only a bit cheaper. Though the 960 evo is still a better buy.

[dizmo]

Do not want.

[RGProductions]

Not bad for SSSF (super super small form factor) builds, plus $109 for 256gb and dem speeds isn't bad.

[AlTech]

1 minute ago, RGProductions said:

Not bad for SSSF (super super small form factor) builds, plus $109 for 256gb and dem speeds isn't bad.

I can buy some fairly decent Sata SSDs for like half the price. This price for PCI-E SSDs is still too high.

[mrchow19910319]

PCIE SSD is so much faster than the SATA 3 ones... Aside from video editing professionals, who will benefit from this kind of speed?? Who needs this kind of speed? 

[intender]

It has its place in the market.  I needed a drive for a cheap computer I am putting in my garage to keep all my car factory service manuals saved on and some music for when I am working out there and I moved my old sata ssd to it and bought a 600p for my current system.  I got it on sale so it was fairly cheap.  I didnt have 950 money, and the 960 evo's have a horrible failure rate.  If this drive can outperform the 600p at roughly the same price with good reliability then it is a better choice than a cheap sata drive.  I paid basically the same price for my 250GB 600p as a 240GB sandisk plus drive (which I have in another computer as well) and the 600p is much much faster than the sandisk. 

[JoseGuya]

35 minutes ago, mrchow19910319 said:

PCIE SSD is so much faster than the SATA 3 ones... Aside from video editing professionals, who will benefit from this kind of speed?? Who needs this kind of speed? 

One use case that I can think of is getting to the hero selection menu in overwatch faster than my team 

[mrchow19910319]

1 minute ago, JoseGuya said:

One use case that I can think of is getting to the hero selection menu in overwatch faster than my team 

lmao.  

Or the infamous insta lock in in league of legends... "mid or I will feed."

[Ezio Auditore]

It uses planar tlc nand whereas others use 3d mlc nand.

So it won't perform on par....

[Suika]

If it ever goes on sale, it might not be a bad buy, but at its current price, I'd rather wait.

[leadeater]

Waiting for WD VelociRaptor PCIe SSD 

[leadeater]

1 hour ago, terrytek said:

i'm still waiting for seagate to release a pcie ssd now. still would never use this, unless there's no seagate equivalent.

Seagate has a PCIe M.2 SSD already, ST800KN0021. Sure it's not cheap but it exists, a consumer variant should be coming at some point surely.

 

http://www.seagate.com/au/en/enterprise-storage/solid-state-drives/nytro-xf1440-xm1440-ssds/

[NumLock21]

26 minutes ago, leadeater said:

Waiting for WD VelociRaptor PCIe SSD 

The old one had a see through window. The new one better have one too and RGB!

[vanished]

43 minutes ago, leadeater said:

Seagate has a PCIe M.2 SSD already, ST800KN0021. Sure it's not cheap but it exists, a consumer variant should be coming at some point surely.

 

http://www.seagate.com/au/en/enterprise-storage/solid-state-drives/nytro-xf1440-xm1440-ssds/

Is that a case of someone else building it just so Seagate can slap their name on it? Or do they actually own manufacturing?

[2FA]

Why can't built in encryption just be standard instead of the exception? If you can use it, you should use it.

[leadeater]

27 minutes ago, Ryan_Vickers said:

Is that a case of someone else building it just so Seagate can slap their name on it? Or do they actually own manufacturing?

I think it's Micron, Seagate and SK Hynix are also considering a partnership too.

[mawv]

6 hours ago, AluminiumTech said:

I can buy some fairly decent Sata SSDs for like half the price. This price for PCI-E SSDs is still too high.

Mfw you compare prices between Sata ssd's with a quarter of the read performance to a really good budget pci-e ssd

 

[vanished]

10 hours ago, mawv said:

Mfw you compare prices between Sata ssd's with a quarter of the read performance to a really good budget pci-e ssd

 

 

Yeah to be honest, even if this isn't the most amazing product among other PCIe NVMe SSDs, it's still good - great compared to SATA - and honestly way cheaper than I expected.

[Granular]

$109 is less than what I paid for my 250GB 850 EVO shortly after it came out.

So at nearly 4 times the read speed, I'd say this is in no way disappointing.

[Bleedingyamato]

@AluminiumTech 

 

I'm confused, you say this WD Black SSD uses 3D NAND but the quote you show implies it doesn't use 3D NAND.  

 

So which is it?

 

 

Any guess if this will be able to sustain the speeds it's rated for?    

 

This is looks like it could be a passable PCIE SSD but it wouldn't be as worth using if it can't sustain the speeds WD is claiming it can reach like the issue Intel's 600p has.  

 

I had bought a 600p but returned it after it was pointed out to me that it can't sustain decent speeds so it has bursts of higher performance rather than consistently decent speed.

[Doobeedoo]

Yeah, for PCI-e SSD not some speeds, also not impressive IOPS for it too.

[MageTank]

Considering MyDigitalSSD offers much faster performance all around, is more durable (MLC) and has a much better endurance rating (while maintaining the same 5yr warranty), the title of this thread is indeed right. I am some, and I am disappointed. 

 

The SSD I am referring to: https://www.amazon.com/MyDigitalSSD-80mm-Express-PCIe-480GB/dp/B01M4OO1FT?th=1

 

They will be coming out with a 1TB option later on this year, with 1400TBW endurance. Can't wait to torture one of those. Be warned though, they get pretty hot.