AMD Ryzen reviewers say: - Either experiencing weird results or not recommened for gaming

[Valentyn]

3 minutes ago, SpaceGhostC2C said:

7700K vs 5820K results: tick the correct answer

A) "Wow, that's surprising and unusual!"

B) "Same as always, nothing to see here"

Depending on Games

B) "Same as always, nothing to see here"

 

 

[MoraisGT]

It can go both ways really....

Depends on the game. But I think we can all agree that more cores is the way forward (with IPC to match of course).

[VagabondWraith]

Please don't use computerbase. It's a horrible website that fakes their benchmarks like Joker does. I equate them to WCCF.

[Dylanc1500]

31 minutes ago, MoraisGT said:

It can go both ways really....

Depends on the game. But I think we can all agree that more cores is the way forward (with IPC to match of course).

There is an extent to that though. Some programs by nature have to run in a serial fashion. While some can be split, solved in parallel fashion and then put back together. In other cases that workload cannot be split up due to some calculations relying on other data to be had first. Here is a thought; if parallel programming worked for everything we would possibly have multi package motherboards or CPUs that more closely resemble a GPU in the consumer market. 

 

However im not arguing that games cannot have processes split up a bit more. I'm just saying that some types of games are reaching a threshold. 

[Valentyn]

12 minutes ago, VagabondWraith said:

Please don't use computerbase. It's a horrible website that fakes their benchmarks like Joker does. I equate them to WCCF.

They're one of the most reliable, respected and well established reviewers around.

Hell, they were one of the places that actually went back to retest different drivers to see if NVIDIA was "Gimping" Kepler performance.

 

https://www.computerbase.de/2017-01/geforce-treiber-test/

[VagabondWraith]

13 minutes ago, Valentyn said:

They're one of the most reliable, respected and well established reviewers around.

Hell, they were one of the places that actually went back to retest different drivers to see if NVIDIA was "Gimping" Kepler performance.

 

https://www.computerbase.de/2017-01/geforce-treiber-test/

They have oddball results that don't line up with 98% of sites. It's hard for me to take them seriously when they're a pure outlier to the majority. Esp pertaining to their Zen reviews.

[Valentyn]

50 minutes ago, VagabondWraith said:

They have oddball results that don't line up with 98% of sites. It's hard for me to take them seriously when they're a pure outlier to the majority. Esp pertaining to their Zen reviews.

That's not true at all, especially when you look at the motherboards used as well; and you include tech youtubers.

Asus boards are riddled with issues, especially bad performance. There are more and more reports of those board bricking themselves as well.
Some retailers are now listing a version 2.2 of the Crosshair 6 Hero.

http://www.computerlounge.co.nz/components/componentview.asp?partid=28567

 

https://www.x-kom.pl/p/352302-plyta-glowna-socket-am4-asus-crosshair-vi-hero-v223xpci-e-ddr4-usb31-m2.html

 

https://www.comtech.de/computer-und-zubehoer/hardware/mainboards/amd-mainboards/asus-x370-crosshair-vi-hero-v2.2-am4-mainboard

 

https://www.rebeltech.co.za/14730-asus-crosshair-vi-hero-asus-crosshair-vi-hero-amd-x370-chipset-am4-4x-dual-channel-ddr4-2666-8x-sata6g-2x-m2-supremefx-s1220-8-c.html

MSI boards got a massive performance improvement from a single BIOS update. Golem.de reporting an average increase of 17% alone.

https://translate.google.co.uk/translate?hl=en&sl=de&u=https://www.golem.de/news/ryzen-7-1800x-im-test-amd-ist-endlich-zurueck-1703-125996-4.html&prev=search

 

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Compared to the original bios, the new UEFI increases the image rate in our game course between plus 4 and plus 26 percent, on the average even plus 17 percent!

 

Then there's Gigabyte boards offering the best performance and allowing memory speeds up to 3000Mhz.

The Asrock Taichi also supports 3200Mhz, and reports show Ryzen is very dependant on memory speeds for performance as well.

http://www.legitreviews.com/ddr4-memory-scaling-amd-am4-platform-best-memory-kit-amd-ryzen-cpus_192259/4

 

Add all those together and you can see the variance between so many reviewers, especially at 1080p. Nevermind the SMT, and Windows 10 Scheduler issues.

In Windows 7 people are seeing up to a 13 fps increase in some games on minimums alone.
 

Add in more and more reports of "smoother" gameplay on Ryzen from the likes of Wendell, TechCity, Computerbase, JayztwoCents, Tech Showdown, eteknix and more all reporting the same, and it's clear there is some very good things in gaming for Ryzen.

Even in Linus' own new GTX 1080Ti tests Ryzen offers better minimums than the 7700K in GTA V; and that is at 4K where it should be more GPU reliant.

[Kinda Bottlenecked]

 

1700 Overwatch + 5 other games in the background gets the same amount of fps my 4670K(with only chrome in the background) gives.

 

Someone with a 7700K test this please 

[Taf the Ghost]

5 hours ago, Pohernori said:

 

1700 Overwatch + 5 other games in the background gets the same amount of fps my 4670K gives.

 

Someone with a 7700K test this please 

That's a fascinating use case, if I've ever seen one, haha.

[Valentyn]

30 minutes ago, Taf the Ghost said:

That's a fascinating use case, if I've ever seen one, haha.

Looks like it'll be fun for Multi-boxing in MMOs.

[Guest Darth Revan]

9 hours ago, Pohernori said:

 

1700 Overwatch + 5 other games in the background gets the same amount of fps my 4670K gives.

 

Someone with a 7700K test this please 

So an AMD processor with 8 cores and 16 threads matches an Intel Quad-Core with no hyper-threading.

[Kinda Bottlenecked]

2 minutes ago, Darth Revan said:

So an AMD processor with 8 cores and 16 threads matches an Intel Quad-Core with no hyper-threading.

 

Oh wow I've realized how badly i've worded my sentence

 

Here: 

 

9 hours ago, Pohernori said:

 

1700 Overwatch + 5 other games in the background gets the same amount of fps my 4670K(with only chrome in the background) gives.

 

Someone with a 7700K test this please 

 

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