AM4 mobo's BIOS performance bias?!

[MakeAMDGreatAgain]

Sorry but what does Performance Bias mean in this context? Is this bad, good, or what the hell is going on?

[Fetzie]

3 minutes ago, zMeul said:

it should not be there and if you add it for "fluff" make it disabled by default - this is seriously fucked up

Tell JJ from Asus that they done goofed then. It's Asus' BIOS design, after all.

[zMeul]

Just now, Enderman said:

Turbo boost and hyperthreading is enabled by default.

why are we debating Turbo Boost and SMT on the same footing as select benchmark skewing!?

[MorganO]

1 minute ago, MakeAMDGreatAgain said:

Sorry but what does Performance Bias mean in this context? Is this bad, good, or what the hell is going on?

your in the same boat as me (not knowing whats going on)

 

[zMeul]

1 minute ago, MakeAMDGreatAgain said:

Sorry but what does Performance Bias mean in this context? Is this bad, good, or what the hell is going on?

special designed BIOS to artificially increase results in select benchmarks

[Enderman]

Just now, zMeul said:

why are we debating Turbo Boost and SMT on the same footing as select benchmark skewing!?

True, idk why there is a setting for a specific benchmark there.

Is a bios even aware of what programs are running on the computer?

[Fetzie]

1 minute ago, zMeul said:

special designed BIOS to artificially increase results in select benchmarks

So it's like how nVidia lets you do quad-SLI on Pascal if you're running benchmarks but otherwise not?

[zMeul]

Just now, Enderman said:

True, idk why there is a setting for a specific benchmark there.

Is a bios even aware of what programs are running on the computer?

it can detect workload

 

my mobo has a similar thing for 3DMark, disabled by default

[zMeul]

Just now, Fetzie said:

You mean like how nVidia let's you do quad-SLI on Pascal if you're running benchmarks?

how's that even remotely similar?!

[MakeAMDGreatAgain]

1 minute ago, zMeul said:

special designed BIOS to artificially increase results in select benchmarks

WTF, are you serious?

[zMeul]

Just now, MakeAMDGreatAgain said:

WTF, are you serious?

dead serious

[Fetzie]

1 minute ago, zMeul said:

how's that even remotely similar?!

It's a BIOS setting purely for making the hardware score higher in competitive benchmarks.

[MakeAMDGreatAgain]

Okay, so now I kind of get what it means. This means we should really wait for multiple, and I mean MUTIPLE independent benchmarks.

 

I am hoping the reviewers tell us if this setting was enabled or not. Now I am getting OCD about it and probably won't take a benchmark seriously unless they specifically tell us this crap wasn't enabled in the bios.

e: or atleast set to NONE.

[Kobz360]

1 minute ago, zMeul said:

special designed BIOS to artificially increase results in select benchmarks

It literally just sounds like a "game mode" except specialised for specific programs. I'd assume it simply alters the the settings of the CPU, memory and whatnot to cater to a single bench, aka stuff anyone can really do manually (and probably do better). It's not as big as a deal as you're making it out to be lol. It's like saying having a program to make aid your GPU get the highest possible score in 3DMark is Some big controversy.

[VagabondWraith]

My Gigabyte board has a setting for 3dmark. I never use it. ?

[MorganO]

but this is implemented by asus???

 

and has nothing to do with AMD making asus do this?

[Peacefulwarrior]

Alllllrighty then. Didn't know this was a thing. Curious what performance boost this gives to those select benchmarks

[NumLock21]

7 minutes ago, MakeAMDGreatAgain said:

WTF, are you serious?

It's on smartphones as well so they look better in certain benchmark test.

 

@MakeAMDGreatAgain

http://www.anandtech.com/show/7384/state-of-cheating-in-android-benchmarks

[Guest]

the way I interpret this is - benchmarks are skewed depending on what setting you have put it on. 

 

meaning that results will vary marginally depending on what setting and benchmarks from AMD were potentially sugar coated in a more ethically poor way than tech launches are accustom to.

 

but, I'll wait till I know for sure.

[WereCat]

So is this like disabling tesselation to get higher firestrike score?

Or is this part of their small increment auto overclocking/boosting (by less than 100MHz at time)?

[zMeul]

2 minutes ago, Fetzie said:

It's a BIOS setting purely for making the hardware score higher in competitive benchmarks.

except you know ...

• doesn't increase score for single card benches
• ^ same for dual card SLI
• nVidia told people even before the cards were out

[WkdPaul]

Native French speaker here, it's closer to;

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Prepare the popcorn, Ryzen tests are going to be fun. A small preview with the latest Asus press BIOS. "Auto" by default of course.

 

... Press BIOS? So they ship hardware with special BIOS with "unique" features???

[VagabondWraith]

But this CAN skew benchmarks if they indeed did use this. It shows the potential perf to be gained, but if it's not shipped like this then it should not be enabled.

[zMeul]

2 minutes ago, Kobz360 said:

It's like saying having a program to make aid your GPU get the highest possible score in 3DMark is Some big controversy.

because that's exactly what happened when GTX10 series AIB cards launched - MSI and ASUS sent reviewers special cards clocked higher than retail ones

let's not pretend it's not an issue

[RevoltTrain]

Pretty sure Intel does the same thing for pre release type stuff