so we are going to SAY GOODBYE TO INTEL ?

[maria2244]

AMD’s $499 Ryzen 7 1800X Beats $1700 i7 6950X

-http://wccftech.com/amd-ryzen-7-1800x-overclocking-performance/

 

yes will miss intel

but for 500 $ I will have 6950x amd version

 I'm so excited

[Shoob]

No, we are not. We'll most likely see more than 4 core 8 thread CPUs on their future mainstream platforms.

[Ezzy-525]

I think a lot of people will be switching to Ryzen. Me included once I decide to upgrade. The price points alone make it worthwhile.

[SCHISCHKA]

In nz the prices are not as impressive, I was quite disappointed after calculating the import duties. I think you can say goodbye to locked overclocking on the mid to high end range

[Princess Luna]

2 minutes ago, maria2244 said:

 I'm so excited

You and I both, Also going to be building a 1800x system soon to replace an i7 3770, I got crucified not long ago for saying that in every way the 1800x is superior to the 6950x due to its performance being so close at the same time costing less than half, we will be able to build the 1800x full system for the price of a single 6900k.

 

I wish I had this link to show before, because this guy simply wouldn't quit making the most drama ever because the "6950x" was still a superior CPU, well no any more as it seems...

 

“It seems ironic yes, but with an auto-overclock the 1800X has no competition. Not even Intel’s 10 core 6950X can keep up with it.”  this is music to my ears.

[HKZeroFive]

People need to calm down with the hype, because once reality hits it could potentially get nasty.

 

Wait for the bloody benchmarks. It's less than a week to go.

[dexT]

No. But if we act like it it'll push them harder

[SCHISCHKA]

Just now, Princess Cadence said:

You and I both, Also going to be building a 1800x system soon to replace an i7 3770, I got crucified not long ago for saying that in every way the 1800x is superior to the 6950x due to its performance being so close at the same time costing less than half, we will be able to build the 1800x full system for the price of a single 6900k.

 

I wish I had this link to show before, because this guy simply wouldn't quit making the most drama ever because the "6950x" was still a superior CPU, well no any more as it seems...

 

“It seems ironic yes, but with an auto-overclock the 1800X has no competition. Not even Intel’s 10 core 6950X can keep up with it.”  this is music to my ears.

I have to ask the age of amd haters. Anyone who remembers the last 15 - 20 years knows how much both companies bring competition to the x86 market. Maybe in a few years apple, Samsung, and nvidia will produce products that turn these bipolar flame wars into a pentagonal orgy

[Mr.Meerkat]

8 minutes ago, SCHISCHKA said:

Maybe in a few years apple, Samsung, and nvidia will produce products that turn these bipolar flame wars into a pentagonal orgy

Are you suggesting that intel is going to licence X86 to other companies other than AMD (and VIA I think) while AMD is going to licence X86-64 to others and not just Intel (and VIA, I think)?

That would be incredibly stupid for them to do that as although Intel has the bigger market share compared to AMD, they are still the only people (and VIA I think) who are allowed to use X86 and X86-64 as they are the respective "owners" for dem patents and what not where they technically have a "monopoly" in the X86 market segment  

[xentropa]

I am not sure how relevant the x86 market will be though.  If mobile devices, cloud servers and super computing is the future, from a computing standpoint, RISC will probably gain traction, if the market supports it. 

[SCHISCHKA]

4 minutes ago, HKZeroFive said:

People need to calm down with the hype, because once reality hits it could potentially get nasty.

 

Wait for the bloody benchmarks. It's less than a week to go.

Benchmarks covered in intels blood. I hope someone can properly explain and test the new features of zen architecture. I can't seem to find anything decent explaining their new branch prediction but I guess amd will shoot anyone with that knowledge 

[DocSwag]

Intel's not dumb. They're gonna lower prices to compete. They aren't dumb enough to go, "Hurr durr AMD is beating us for half the price but we'll just let them keep beating us and potentially bankrupt us instead of lowering prices! Hurr durr."

 

And also, the 1800x only beats the 6900k in multi threaded tasks, but is still weaker than the 6950x, though this is expected.

[DocSwag]

1 minute ago, SCHISCHKA said:

Benchmarks covered in intels blood. I hope someone can properly explain and test the new features of zen architecture. I can't seem to find anything decent explaining their new branch prediction but I guess amd will shoot anyone with that knowledge 

Actually...

 

http://www.linleygroup.com/mpr/article.php?id=11666

[MorganO]

5 minutes ago, DocSwag said:

Intel's not dumb. They're gonna lower prices to compete. They aren't dumb enough to go, "Hurr durr AMD is beating us for half the price but we'll just let them keep beating us and potentially bankrupt us instead of lowering prices! Hurr durr."

 

And also, the 1800x only beats the 6900k in multi threaded tasks, but is still weaker than the 6950x, though this is expected.

yeah ill belive that when the 6900k is lower priced than the 1800x

[DocSwag]

Just now, KOMTechAndGaming said:

yeah ill belive that when the 6900k is lower priced than the 1800x

They haven't lowered prices yet cuz Ryzen hasn't even launched. So you seriously think Intel is just going to sit there going, "Hurr durr Hurr durr AMD's beating us at half the price and less than 10% behind for 200% lower in price but we can definitely pull this off right guys Hurr durr Hurr durr."

[SCHISCHKA]

5 minutes ago, Mr.Meerkat said:

Are you suggesting that intel is going to licence X86 to other companies other than AMD (and VIA I think) while AMD is going to licence X86-64 to others and not just Intel (and VIA, I think)?

That would be incredibly stupid for them to do that as although Intel has the bigger market share compared to AMD, they are still the only people (and VIA I think) who are allowed to use X86 and X86-64 as they are the respective "owners" for dem patents and what not where they technically have a "monopoly" in the X86 market segment  

No I'm suggesting arm chips could compete with intel. apple are investing in their iPad chips and Samsung /chrome books are going to put a dent in the laptop market. Google is working on I think it's called fuscia; it's some sort of incestual relationship between android and chrome book. the app SDK and market place exists to topple the windows and x86 domination, the power consumption and price are in their favour. they are only missing that high end workstation performance

[MorganO]

Just now, DocSwag said:

They haven't lowered prices yet cuz Ryzen hasn't even launched. So you seriously think Intel is just going to sit there going, "Hurr durr Hurr durr AMD's beating us at half the price and less than 10% behind for 200% lower in price but we can definitely pull this off right guys Hurr durr Hurr durr."

where did i say i belived intel????

 

i said ill belive it when intel effectively give significant prices cuts the the 6900k not something like £100 which is nothing really

[Maxinfamily]

Is not like they are totally unaware, they know about ryzen and theyll do something about it or maybe there are so many Intel fanboys that they dont have to do nothing at all lol

[DocSwag]

Just now, KOMTechAndGaming said:

where did i say i belived intel????

 

i said ill belive it when intel effectively give significant prices cuts the the 6900k not something like £100 which is nothing really

So basically you kinda doubt Intel will cut prices.

 

I highly disagree with that but we can agree to disagree  

[Mr.Meerkat]

Just now, SCHISCHKA said:

No I'm suggesting arm chips could compete with intel. apple are investing in their iPad chips and Samsung /chrome books are going to put a dent in the laptop market. Google is working on I think it's called fuscia; it's some sort of incestual relationship between android and chrome book. the app SDK and market place exists to topple the windows and x86 domination, the power consumption and price are in their favour. they are only missing that high end workstation performance

Fair enough however ARM really isn't that great of an arch for desktop based tasks...(as you've said) where I doubt we really want to be going one step back in terms of performance. 

 

Power consumption isn't really in their favour either as although x86 chips consume more power, they also perform a hella better where X86 tablet chips at the same TDP as ARM tablet chips perform more or less the same in benchies . 

[HKZeroFive]

11 minutes ago, SCHISCHKA said:

Benchmarks covered in intels blood.

...and there is the hype I was talking about. I swear, I'm probably part of the 25% of people who remain skeptical until the actual release.

 

Nothing is fact until the benchmarks from third-party reviewers are published.

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I hope someone can properly explain and test the new features of zen architecture. I can't seem to find anything decent explaining their new branch prediction but I guess amd will shoot anyone with that knowledge 

There are plenty of articles about their new brand prediction, aren't there? AMD hasn't exactly been shy when it comes to showcasing the specifics of the Ryzen microarchitecture and I doubt it's under NDA.

[Xreldo]

i8 series will smohke AMD

[SirFlamenco]

Just hope no Ryzen will be able to compete with my 6850k

[Xreldo]

 

16 minutes ago, SirFlamenco said:

Just hope no Ryzen will be able to compete with my 6850k

Ryzen 1800x compares to 6900k and 6950x it will destroy you measly CPU 

1700x is more on your level

[Princess Luna]

19 minutes ago, DocSwag said:

Intel's not dumb. They're gonna lower prices to compete. They aren't dumb enough to go, "Hurr durr AMD is beating us for half the price but we'll just let them keep beating us and potentially bankrupt us instead of lowering prices! Hurr durr."

 

And also, the 1800x only beats the 6900k in multi threaded tasks, but is still weaker than the 6950x, though this is expected.

Right now in my opinion the Broadwell-E is a no go, Ryzen can give you enough for a greater pricing and even if Intel lower the prices of it Ryzen is newer and all... Intel might come to the market with Kaby-Lake-E with more realistic pricing to keep as the best pick in the market because honestly the 6950x is so overpriced that I would feel bad getting it even if I had the means to afford it... I think that people would be doing the market a favour by picking the 1800x over the 6900k 6950x right now to force this competition and by end result Intel getting smart again.

 

Like there are a little things I really appreciated was they making such nice stock coolers, I would be lying if I said it didn't bother me that Intel's flagship CPU the 7700 came with the same old crappy and ugly stock cooler of always, would it hurt at very least try making a nicer cooler even if only as a marketing thing.