Posted February 24, 2017 (edited) I am more curious on how the forum feels on this. I never bought a Z card and may never because of the cost and did not think they were much needed in any use case I can think of. *edit Due to some confusion some people do not know what a Z card is so I changed the title and question. (Its a Dual GPU card ) Edited February 24, 2017 by SansVarnic COMMUNITY STANDARDS | TECH NEWS POSTING GUIDELINES | FORUM STAFF LTT Folding Users Tips, Tricks and FAQ | F@H & BOINC Badge Request | F@H Contribution | My Rig | Project Steamroller I am a Moderator, but I am fallible. Discuss or debate with me as you will but please do not argue with me as that will get us nowhere. Spoiler † † † Character is like a Tree and Reputation like its Shadow. The Shadow is what we think of it; The Tree is the Real thing. ~ Abraham Lincoln Reputation is a Lifetime to create but seconds to destroy. You have enemies? Good. That means you've stood up for something, sometime in your life. ~ Winston Churchill Docendo discimus - "to teach is to learn" † CHRISTIAN MEMBER † Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted February 24, 2017 What's a Z card GTZ? The geek himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Posted February 24, 2017 Author 1 minute ago, Dawson Wehage said: What's a Z card GTZ? Its a dual GPU card. Example the GTX Titan Z COMMUNITY STANDARDS | TECH NEWS POSTING GUIDELINES | FORUM STAFF LTT Folding Users Tips, Tricks and FAQ | F@H & BOINC Badge Request | F@H Contribution | My Rig | Project Steamroller I am a Moderator, but I am fallible. Discuss or debate with me as you will but please do not argue with me as that will get us nowhere. Spoiler † † † Character is like a Tree and Reputation like its Shadow. The Shadow is what we think of it; The Tree is the Real thing. ~ Abraham Lincoln Reputation is a Lifetime to create but seconds to destroy. You have enemies? Good. That means you've stood up for something, sometime in your life. ~ Winston Churchill Docendo discimus - "to teach is to learn" † CHRISTIAN MEMBER † Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted February 24, 2017 Yes I really think they should. at least then we don't technically have to SLI. Instead it's integrated on the board. The geek himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted February 24, 2017 The GTX 690 didn't have a Z so it wasn't a Z card. The geek himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted February 24, 2017 A titan ZP would be interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted February 24, 2017 AMD just did, Nvidia has really stopped. I doubt that they would it. They can't sell a $1200 Titan XP and expect people to buy a $3000+ Titan XPZ. The 295X2 and Pro Duo's pricing was on point. Main Gaming PC (new): HP Omen 30L || i9 10850K || RTX 3070 || 512GB WD Blue NVME || 2TB HDD, 4TB HDD, 8TB HDD || 750W P2 || 16GB HyperX Black DDR4 Main Gaming PC (old, still own) : Intel Core i7 7700K @5.0Ghz || GPU: GTX 1080 Seahawk EK X || Motherboard: Maximus VIII Impact || Case: Fractal Design Define Nano S || RAM : 32GB Corsair Vengeance LPX Cooling: EK XRES D5 100mm || Alphacool ST30 280mm w/ Vardars || Alphacool ST30 240mm w/ Vardars || Swiftech 3/8 x 1/2'' Lok-Seal Compressions || Swiftech EVGA Hydrocopper Block || Primochill Advanced LRT Orange || Distilled Water Folding@Home Rig: 2x X5690s @4.6Ghz || GPUs: 2x Radeon HD 7990 || Motherboard: EVGA SR-2 || Case: Corsair 900D || RAM: 48GB Corsair Dominator GT 2000Mhz CL9 Ethereum Mining Rig: Pentium G4400 || Gigabyte Z170X-UD5 TH || 2x GTX 1060s (Samsung & Hynix) 1x GTX 1070 (Micron), 2x RX480s BIOS modded (Samsung), 1x R9 290X 8GB, 1x GTX 1660 Super = ~ 195 Mh/s Peripherals: 3x U2412M (5760x1200), 1x U3011 (2560x1600) || Logitech G710 (Cherry Blues) || Logitech G600 || Brainwavz HM5 with @Gofspar Mod Laptop: Dell XPS 15 || "Infinity Edge" 4K IPS Screen || i7 7700HQ || GTX 1050 || 16GB 2400Mhz RAM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted February 24, 2017 4 minutes ago, SansVarnic said: Its a dual GPU card. Example the GTX Titan Z Just say a Dual GPU card, Not everyone knows about the GTX Titan Z from the Kepler lineup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted February 24, 2017 1 minute ago, Dawson Wehage said: The GTX 690 didn't have a Z so it wasn't a Z card. I think the 690 was probably Nvidia's most successful dual GPU card. It was priced well ($1000) and had performance that beat out the Titan. Main Gaming PC (new): HP Omen 30L || i9 10850K || RTX 3070 || 512GB WD Blue NVME || 2TB HDD, 4TB HDD, 8TB HDD || 750W P2 || 16GB HyperX Black DDR4 Main Gaming PC (old, still own) : Intel Core i7 7700K @5.0Ghz || GPU: GTX 1080 Seahawk EK X || Motherboard: Maximus VIII Impact || Case: Fractal Design Define Nano S || RAM : 32GB Corsair Vengeance LPX Cooling: EK XRES D5 100mm || Alphacool ST30 280mm w/ Vardars || Alphacool ST30 240mm w/ Vardars || Swiftech 3/8 x 1/2'' Lok-Seal Compressions || Swiftech EVGA Hydrocopper Block || Primochill Advanced LRT Orange || Distilled Water Folding@Home Rig: 2x X5690s @4.6Ghz || GPUs: 2x Radeon HD 7990 || Motherboard: EVGA SR-2 || Case: Corsair 900D || RAM: 48GB Corsair Dominator GT 2000Mhz CL9 Ethereum Mining Rig: Pentium G4400 || Gigabyte Z170X-UD5 TH || 2x GTX 1060s (Samsung & Hynix) 1x GTX 1070 (Micron), 2x RX480s BIOS modded (Samsung), 1x R9 290X 8GB, 1x GTX 1660 Super = ~ 195 Mh/s Peripherals: 3x U2412M (5760x1200), 1x U3011 (2560x1600) || Logitech G710 (Cherry Blues) || Logitech G600 || Brainwavz HM5 with @Gofspar Mod Laptop: Dell XPS 15 || "Infinity Edge" 4K IPS Screen || i7 7700HQ || GTX 1050 || 16GB 2400Mhz RAM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted February 24, 2017 -Thread moved to Graphics Cards. Of course AMD will USEFUL LINKS: PSU Tier List | F@H stats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted February 24, 2017 2 minutes ago, TheRandomness said: -Thread moved to Graphics Cards. Of course AMD will The 295X2 sold fairly well, I think they should continue with it. Main Gaming PC (new): HP Omen 30L || i9 10850K || RTX 3070 || 512GB WD Blue NVME || 2TB HDD, 4TB HDD, 8TB HDD || 750W P2 || 16GB HyperX Black DDR4 Main Gaming PC (old, still own) : Intel Core i7 7700K @5.0Ghz || GPU: GTX 1080 Seahawk EK X || Motherboard: Maximus VIII Impact || Case: Fractal Design Define Nano S || RAM : 32GB Corsair Vengeance LPX Cooling: EK XRES D5 100mm || Alphacool ST30 280mm w/ Vardars || Alphacool ST30 240mm w/ Vardars || Swiftech 3/8 x 1/2'' Lok-Seal Compressions || Swiftech EVGA Hydrocopper Block || Primochill Advanced LRT Orange || Distilled Water Folding@Home Rig: 2x X5690s @4.6Ghz || GPUs: 2x Radeon HD 7990 || Motherboard: EVGA SR-2 || Case: Corsair 900D || RAM: 48GB Corsair Dominator GT 2000Mhz CL9 Ethereum Mining Rig: Pentium G4400 || Gigabyte Z170X-UD5 TH || 2x GTX 1060s (Samsung & Hynix) 1x GTX 1070 (Micron), 2x RX480s BIOS modded (Samsung), 1x R9 290X 8GB, 1x GTX 1660 Super = ~ 195 Mh/s Peripherals: 3x U2412M (5760x1200), 1x U3011 (2560x1600) || Logitech G710 (Cherry Blues) || Logitech G600 || Brainwavz HM5 with @Gofspar Mod Laptop: Dell XPS 15 || "Infinity Edge" 4K IPS Screen || i7 7700HQ || GTX 1050 || 16GB 2400Mhz RAM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted February 24, 2017 1 minute ago, arnavvr said: The 295X2 sold fairly well, I think they should continue with it. There's rumours of a dual Vega card. Plus, they've done it with almost every generation now USEFUL LINKS: PSU Tier List | F@H stats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted February 24, 2017 Actually I think the Titan Z alone still has way more power then a GTX 1080. The geek himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted February 24, 2017 2 minutes ago, Dawson Wehage said: Actually I think the Titan Z alone still has way more power then a GTX 1080. Nope. It's based on two Titan Blacks (effectively 780Tis with 3GB more vRAM) Those even with great SLI scaling aren't close. Main Gaming PC (new): HP Omen 30L || i9 10850K || RTX 3070 || 512GB WD Blue NVME || 2TB HDD, 4TB HDD, 8TB HDD || 750W P2 || 16GB HyperX Black DDR4 Main Gaming PC (old, still own) : Intel Core i7 7700K @5.0Ghz || GPU: GTX 1080 Seahawk EK X || Motherboard: Maximus VIII Impact || Case: Fractal Design Define Nano S || RAM : 32GB Corsair Vengeance LPX Cooling: EK XRES D5 100mm || Alphacool ST30 280mm w/ Vardars || Alphacool ST30 240mm w/ Vardars || Swiftech 3/8 x 1/2'' Lok-Seal Compressions || Swiftech EVGA Hydrocopper Block || Primochill Advanced LRT Orange || Distilled Water Folding@Home Rig: 2x X5690s @4.6Ghz || GPUs: 2x Radeon HD 7990 || Motherboard: EVGA SR-2 || Case: Corsair 900D || RAM: 48GB Corsair Dominator GT 2000Mhz CL9 Ethereum Mining Rig: Pentium G4400 || Gigabyte Z170X-UD5 TH || 2x GTX 1060s (Samsung & Hynix) 1x GTX 1070 (Micron), 2x RX480s BIOS modded (Samsung), 1x R9 290X 8GB, 1x GTX 1660 Super = ~ 195 Mh/s Peripherals: 3x U2412M (5760x1200), 1x U3011 (2560x1600) || Logitech G710 (Cherry Blues) || Logitech G600 || Brainwavz HM5 with @Gofspar Mod Laptop: Dell XPS 15 || "Infinity Edge" 4K IPS Screen || i7 7700HQ || GTX 1050 || 16GB 2400Mhz RAM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted February 24, 2017 1 minute ago, arnavvr said: Nope. It's based on two Titan Blacks (effectively 780Tis with 3GB more vRAM) Those even with great SLI scaling aren't close. Really? The geek himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted February 24, 2017 I think Z cards were meant for a time where 4k was unobtainable at 60fps and high settings, so companies threw hail maries trying to see how far they could get. Now that the 1080 and soon to be 1080ti are out, and the fact that 8k really isn't a thing, companies don't have to make Z cards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted February 24, 2017 AMD's far more likely to, and for good reason. AMD's dual GPU cards have seen mostly positive results across all their cards, mostly due to Crossfire on an interposer scaling well and overcoming some of the support issues that Crossfire over PCIe or a dedicated bridge, and SLI see. SLI on a dual GPU card, however, hasn't exactly worked in Nvidia's favor outside of fringe cases. However, I don't expect any dual GPU gaming oriented cards any time soon, unless AMD really wants a Titan XP competitor and can somehow make scaling and support between two GPUs on one PCB nearly flawless in gaming. I expect something more along the lines of a Radeon ProDuo 2 with Vega, with gaming drivers available for those that just want to be baller. Come Bloody Angel Break off your chains And look what I've found in the dirt. Pale battered body Seems she was struggling Something is wrong with this world. Fierce Bloody Angel The blood is on your hands Why did you come to this world? Everybody turns to dust. Everybody turns to dust. The blood is on your hands. The blood is on your hands! Pyo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted February 24, 2017 2 minutes ago, Dawson Wehage said: Really? Look at the GPU usage. There's a bottleneck somewhere in that system. Main Gaming PC (new): HP Omen 30L || i9 10850K || RTX 3070 || 512GB WD Blue NVME || 2TB HDD, 4TB HDD, 8TB HDD || 750W P2 || 16GB HyperX Black DDR4 Main Gaming PC (old, still own) : Intel Core i7 7700K @5.0Ghz || GPU: GTX 1080 Seahawk EK X || Motherboard: Maximus VIII Impact || Case: Fractal Design Define Nano S || RAM : 32GB Corsair Vengeance LPX Cooling: EK XRES D5 100mm || Alphacool ST30 280mm w/ Vardars || Alphacool ST30 240mm w/ Vardars || Swiftech 3/8 x 1/2'' Lok-Seal Compressions || Swiftech EVGA Hydrocopper Block || Primochill Advanced LRT Orange || Distilled Water Folding@Home Rig: 2x X5690s @4.6Ghz || GPUs: 2x Radeon HD 7990 || Motherboard: EVGA SR-2 || Case: Corsair 900D || RAM: 48GB Corsair Dominator GT 2000Mhz CL9 Ethereum Mining Rig: Pentium G4400 || Gigabyte Z170X-UD5 TH || 2x GTX 1060s (Samsung & Hynix) 1x GTX 1070 (Micron), 2x RX480s BIOS modded (Samsung), 1x R9 290X 8GB, 1x GTX 1660 Super = ~ 195 Mh/s Peripherals: 3x U2412M (5760x1200), 1x U3011 (2560x1600) || Logitech G710 (Cherry Blues) || Logitech G600 || Brainwavz HM5 with @Gofspar Mod Laptop: Dell XPS 15 || "Infinity Edge" 4K IPS Screen || i7 7700HQ || GTX 1050 || 16GB 2400Mhz RAM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted February 24, 2017 The Titan Z was totally outrageous. The 295X2 and 690, however, were not, at least not to the same extent. I hope they do. Let's shatter some records! Night Fury 2.0: Spoiler Intel Core i5-6500 / Cryorig H7 / Gigabyte GA-H170-D3H / Corsair Vengeance LPX 8GB DDR4 @ 2133MHz / EVGA GTX 1070 SC / Fractal Design Define R5 / Adata SP550 240GB / WD Blue 500GB / WD Blue 1TB / EVGA 750GQ Daily Drivers: Spoiler Google Pixel XL 128GB / Jaybird Bluebuds X3 / Logitech MX Master / Sennheiser HD 598 / Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted February 24, 2017 1 minute ago, arnavvr said: Look at the GPU usage. There's a bottleneck somewhere in that system. Even still, the Titan Z is doing better than the gtx 1080. The geek himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted February 24, 2017 2 minutes ago, Dawson Wehage said: Even still, the Titan Z is doing better than the gtx 1080. The FPS is about the same, within 5 FPS of each other. Main Gaming PC (new): HP Omen 30L || i9 10850K || RTX 3070 || 512GB WD Blue NVME || 2TB HDD, 4TB HDD, 8TB HDD || 750W P2 || 16GB HyperX Black DDR4 Main Gaming PC (old, still own) : Intel Core i7 7700K @5.0Ghz || GPU: GTX 1080 Seahawk EK X || Motherboard: Maximus VIII Impact || Case: Fractal Design Define Nano S || RAM : 32GB Corsair Vengeance LPX Cooling: EK XRES D5 100mm || Alphacool ST30 280mm w/ Vardars || Alphacool ST30 240mm w/ Vardars || Swiftech 3/8 x 1/2'' Lok-Seal Compressions || Swiftech EVGA Hydrocopper Block || Primochill Advanced LRT Orange || Distilled Water Folding@Home Rig: 2x X5690s @4.6Ghz || GPUs: 2x Radeon HD 7990 || Motherboard: EVGA SR-2 || Case: Corsair 900D || RAM: 48GB Corsair Dominator GT 2000Mhz CL9 Ethereum Mining Rig: Pentium G4400 || Gigabyte Z170X-UD5 TH || 2x GTX 1060s (Samsung & Hynix) 1x GTX 1070 (Micron), 2x RX480s BIOS modded (Samsung), 1x R9 290X 8GB, 1x GTX 1660 Super = ~ 195 Mh/s Peripherals: 3x U2412M (5760x1200), 1x U3011 (2560x1600) || Logitech G710 (Cherry Blues) || Logitech G600 || Brainwavz HM5 with @Gofspar Mod Laptop: Dell XPS 15 || "Infinity Edge" 4K IPS Screen || i7 7700HQ || GTX 1050 || 16GB 2400Mhz RAM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted February 24, 2017 2 minutes ago, Dawson Wehage said: Even still, the Titan Z is doing better than the gtx 1080. The GTX 1080 does quite better at 4K, it seems. But it's weird. Only around 60% of the 1080 is being utilized at 1080p. Night Fury 2.0: Spoiler Intel Core i5-6500 / Cryorig H7 / Gigabyte GA-H170-D3H / Corsair Vengeance LPX 8GB DDR4 @ 2133MHz / EVGA GTX 1070 SC / Fractal Design Define R5 / Adata SP550 240GB / WD Blue 500GB / WD Blue 1TB / EVGA 750GQ Daily Drivers: Spoiler Google Pixel XL 128GB / Jaybird Bluebuds X3 / Logitech MX Master / Sennheiser HD 598 / Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted February 24, 2017 1 minute ago, Firecheetah13 said: I think Z cards were meant for a time where 4k was unobtainable at 60fps and high settings, so companies threw hail maries trying to see how far they could get. Now that the 1080 and soon to be 1080ti are out, and the fact that 8k really isn't a thing, companies don't have to make Z cards. Consistent 4K60 @ high/ultra settings really isn't obtainable today, without running two Titan XP cards in SLI. There has to be some compromise with a GTX 1080. A single XP will have little compromise now, but 4K gaming is still becoming more demanding Also, dual GPU cards aren't always created for gaming, or their strong suits aren't gaming. The Radeon ProDuo falls in that first category, and the Titan Z is some where in between. They can be created to boost FP16/32/64 numbers when a more powerful single GPU isn't possible or practical. Come Bloody Angel Break off your chains And look what I've found in the dirt. Pale battered body Seems she was struggling Something is wrong with this world. Fierce Bloody Angel The blood is on your hands Why did you come to this world? Everybody turns to dust. Everybody turns to dust. The blood is on your hands. The blood is on your hands! Pyo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted February 24, 2017 Until we come to a point where multi gpu setups can become a 100% cost effective solution, I will always buy a more powerful single gpu over a multi gpu setup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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