AMD Ryzen HAS BEEN ANNOUNCED!!!

[GDRRiley]

looks like my 6660k after almost 1.5 years maybe sold for the lowest 8 core ryzen and then oced like crazy. well looks like I will only be getting 250$ for my board+CPU

[Techstorm970]

3 minutes ago, Orangeator said:

This is what I was trying to say^^^

 

Ok then.  Maybe specifying that early on would have helped. 

[JoostinOnline]

There were a lot of leaks about versions in the $100-$300 range.  Were those all just wrong, or are there more models lined up?

[goodtofufriday]

For the record, ive seen people say AMD peeps are salty, when really most of use readily admit FX was alright at best. 

 

But the past few days ive never seen so much salt from intel peeps. Its like people are desperately trying to justify their expensive purchase. 

[dexT]

4 hours ago, Dietrichw said:

From Austin Evan's video which was taken down  showed LN2 overclockers getting 5.15 GHz on all 8 cores if I remember correctly. This shows hope for lower core count parts with lower TDP will be able to get above 4 GHz on air unless the chip in the video was very cherry picked to OC that much.

That is a prerelease beta BIOS with no updates. You can expect much better performance/stability a short time after release.

[DocSwag]

33 minutes ago, Clanscorpia said:

No it didnt, it per clock performed terribly compared to broadwell

I wouldn't say it's terrible compared to Broadwell. The single thread of the 1800x is about the same as the 6900k in single threaded benchmarks and since it's higher clocked I'd say Zen is around Haswell or so IPC. First of all, though, AMD showed that the 1800x beats the 6900k in multi threaded benchmarks, which shows AMD scales better in multi-core performance, which helps, and second of all, Zen is higher clocked. IPC doesn't matter if clock speeds are high and TDP is still reasonable. Afterall, performance is a function of IPC*clock speed* cores, so if IPC is lower if the clock speed is higher it's still fine. Zen seems to have higher clocks than Broadwell which makes up for the IPC differences and if it overclocks decently then it doesn't matter much.

 

The 1800x was probably running at around 4ghz in the Cinebench run and the 6900k probably at it's max boost of 3.7 ghz. They had the same single threaded performance so then 4ghz*Zen IPC = 3.7ghz*Broadwell IPC and we find Broadwell is only about 8% ahead in IPC in single threaded performance on Cinebench. Quite decent if you ask me. 

[TigerHawk]

Welp just ordered me a 1700X and ASRock X370 Killer SLI. almost 900 bucks lighter. The Canadian dollar is really shit these days....

[DocSwag]

4 minutes ago, JoostinOnline said:

There were a lot of leaks about versions in the $100-$300 range.  Were those all just wrong, or are there more models lined up?

Probably lined up. Since the cheapest 8 core is $330 I presume the 6 and 4 cores will be cheaper and so <$300. They just haven't been released yet.

[DocSwag]

1 minute ago, TigerHawk said:

Welp just ordered me a 1700X and ASRock X370 Killer SLI. almost 900 bucks lighter. The Canadian dollar is really shit these days....

Honestly if I were you I woulda waited for launch day just in case it overclocks like shite but whatevs, either away it's probably a good purchase 

[Orangeator]

2 minutes ago, TigerHawk said:

Welp just ordered me a 1700X and ASRock X370 Killer SLI. almost 900 bucks lighter. The Canadian dollar is really shit these days....

You topped me. I got the 1700 this morning. I am holding off on the motherboard. Do you mind sharing why you chose that one?

[TigerHawk]

2 minutes ago, DocSwag said:

Honestly if I were you I woulda waited for launch day just in case it overclocks like shite but whatevs, either away it's probably a good purchase 

My system is old and in need of updating anyways. I need a lot of cores cause I run 4-5 VMs for school. I wasn't gonna get that with a regular i7 and if I went X99 I would of ended up paying more for less cores. Cheapest X99 board is like borderline 400 moose dollars.

[DocSwag]

Honestly judging by how many people I've heard that might get Ryzen AMD's gonna have huge profits for Q1 2017. I have one friend who was talking about jumping from his 6600k to a 1700x and another is building a new PC and will probably use a 1700. And then there's all of you who are preordering.

 

Now I'm really glad I bought some AMD stock last year in February for $1.81.

[TigerHawk]

3 minutes ago, DocSwag said:

Honestly judging by how many people I've heard that might get Ryzen AMD's gonna have huge profits for Q1 2017. I have one friend who was talking about jumping from his 6600k to a 1700x and another is building a new PC and will probably use a 1700. And then there's all of you who are preordering.

 

Now I'm really glad I bought some AMD stock last year in February for $1.81.

Honestly I wouldn't even consider jumping from haswell or later hardware for Ryzen. There won't be much of a performance boost if any at all unless you do massive amounts of multi-threaded work. If you've got ivy bridge or older, or heaven forbid an old FX chip its def worth the upgrade though.

Provided the "benchmarks" we've seen hold up.

[The Benjamins]

2 minutes ago, DocSwag said:

Honestly judging by how many people I've heard that might get Ryzen AMD's gonna have huge profits for Q1 2017. I have one friend who was talking about jumping from his 6600k to a 1700x and another is building a new PC and will probably use a 1700. And then there's all of you who are preordering.

 

Now I'm really glad I bought some AMD stock last year in February for $1.81.

Hey good news Vega is around the corner too so hold onto that stock till after Vega is released. I was thinking of investing but I didn't have any extra money for that.

[Ryujin2003]

11 minutes ago, goodtofufriday said:

But the past few days ive never seen so much salt from intel peeps. Its like people are desperately trying to justify their expensive purchase. 

Yeah, like in the Troubleshooting forums "Helps, my $1,500 won't post!", like the dollar value means anything.

 

Awesome, I can performance like Intel, and still be able to feed my family and pay bills? Hell yes, let's do it.

[DocSwag]

3 minutes ago, TigerHawk said:

Honestly I wouldn't even consider jumping from haswell or later hardware for Ryzen. There won't be much of a performance boost if any at all unless you do massive amounts of multi-threaded work. If you've got ivy bridge or older, or heaven forbid an old FX chip its def worth the upgrade though.

Provided the "benchmarks" we've seen hold up.

The one getting the 1700 though was gonna do a large upgrade. He already has a 4790k and is building two new systems, one for himself, one for his brother, and one just as a family PC while recycling some of the components. He originally was gonna use a 4790k in his system and get a 4460 or something for his brother's but now it's worth it to get a 1700 and use the 4790k in the secondary build.

 

As for the other guy I'm not sure. Maybe he streams so idk. Though yeah, I agree that there's no need to upgrade from a haswell or later i5 or i7 unless you really need more cores.

[DocSwag]

5 minutes ago, The Benjamins said:

Hey good news Vega is around the corner too so hold onto that stock till after Vega is released. I was thinking of investing but I didn't have any extra money for that.

Yeah man. I invested 100 shares and have already made over $1000! I'm really happy with that investment and I'm really hoping it'll reach as high as it did in the Athlon days ($40, I would be making almost $4000 if that happens!).

[Orangeator]

8 minutes ago, TigerHawk said:

Honestly I wouldn't even consider jumping from haswell or later hardware for Ryzen. There won't be much of a performance boost if any at all unless you do massive amounts of multi-threaded work. If you've got ivy bridge or older, or heaven forbid an old FX chip its def worth the upgrade though.

Provided the "benchmarks" we've seen hold up.

I have one of those shitty FX chips and have been waiting awhile to upgrade to Ryzen. So I bit the bullet and pre-ordered a 1700 this morning.

[TigerHawk]

2 minutes ago, DocSwag said:

The one getting the 1700 though was gonna do a large upgrade. He already has a 4790k and is building two new systems, one for himself, one for his brother, and one just as a family PC while recycling some of the components. He originally was gonna use a 4790k in his system and get a 4460 or something for his brother's but now it's worth it to get a 1700 and use the 4790k in the secondary build.

 

As for the other guy I'm not sure. Maybe he streams so idk. Though yeah, I agree that there's no need to upgrade from a haswell or later i5 or i7 unless you really need more cores.

Yeah I'm looking forward to being able to stream some space engineers. I play it maxed out at 1440p with my 980 ti but it eats the heck out of my 3570k @ even 4.5ghz and streaming dropped frames like heck unless I dropped quality to potato, or my frames took a big hit if I let my GPU do it.

[DocSwag]

1 minute ago, Orangeator said:

I have one of those shitty FX chips and have been waiting awhile to upgrade to Ryzen. So I bit the bullet and per-ordered a 1700 this morning.

The really neat thing though is now with Ryzen and Vega/1080ti coming soon a system that cost $2500-$3000 or so (5960x+980ti in 2015) 1 1/2 years ago you could now get for $1500. The price drops are HUGE. I can only imagine the huge amounts of people this could benefit.

[goodtofufriday]

6 minutes ago, Orangeator said:

I have one of those shitty FX chips and have been waiting awhile to upgrade to Ryzen. So I bit the bullet and pre-ordered a 1700 this morning.

Aye man. Im on a 9590. I didnt believe in the heat. 

Why didnt i listen. Lol. 1800x in an itx case. Im waiting in vega so while this is hype, i cant even enjoy it yet. 

[Dabombinable]

To think that in 2015, I paid this for my i7 4790K not including $55 postage (as a replacement for an i5 4440):

[Dabombinable]

Fuck it. If AMD pulls through in gaming+productivity benchmarks, my friend can have my 4790K+the rest of my DDR3.

[LAwLz]

It makes me really sad and depressed to see so many people pre-ordering.

This forum often prides itself in not pre-ordering a game for like 60 dollars, but pre-ordering a motherboard and CPU for 600 dollars, despite not having a single third party (aka trustworthy) benchmark to look at?

 

Pure idiocy. It is really that hard to just wait a week and see what the performance is like before throwing money at your screens?

[potoooooooo]

1 hour ago, Clanscorpia said:

No it didnt, it per clock performed terribly compared to broadwell

First of all, the IPC is basically identical to broadwell.

 

Second of all, it performs exactly as well as they said it would. I really don't see what your point is at all.